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Old Posted Jan 30, 2013, 8:31 PM
nfitz nfitz is offline
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Originally Posted by nname View Post
In 2011, STM reported 405 million trips. Looking at the 2011 YTD of 208 millions for the first 2 quarters, seems like it is matching that number.

So my guess is... in the 2011 and earlier report, they assumed the number reported by STM as linked trips. But in 2012 and newer report, they changed the assumption to unlinked trips (boardings). ...
I just noticed this in the APTA reports, and noticed the thread.

The Montreal ridership never made sense compared to Toronto. Montreal and Toronto have similar subways (69 km vs 72 km; 68 stations vs 64 stations; 759 17-m long cars compared to 678 22.9-m long cars). If anything Toronto had more capacity given the cars are 35% longer and 25% wider, making the car almost 70% bigger.

Peak frequencies are similar, Toronto's off-peak frequencies are lower (more frequent - never more than a 6-min scheduled wait).

Anecdotally Toronto subway trains always seem busier on weekends and evenings ... and I've seldom seen Montreal trains packed as tightly in rush-hour as Toronto (or at least leaving as many people behind).

So how could Montreal have slightly higher subway ridership?

The new numbers make a lot more sense to me.
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