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summersm343 Apr 8, 2014 1:33 AM

PHILADELPHIA | 1528 Cherry | 17 FLOORS
 
http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...ry-Slide-2.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...ry-Slide-1.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...ry-Slide-3.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...ry-Slide-4.jpg

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49,000 sf 17 story mixed use tower. 1528 Cherry will have ground floor retail, 7 office floors and 9 residential floors. The building offers views of the Benjamin Franklin Parkway and sits near Love Park. A one way vision repeated filigree pattern is to be printed on the floor to ceiling glass curtain wall.
http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/pro...cherry-street/

shadowbat2 Apr 8, 2014 8:45 AM

Best view I have of the site so far LOL....

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29...pscbde292c.jpg

....the two blue faced rowhouses. (Family Court rising in the background)

Plokoon11 Apr 8, 2014 1:34 PM

This is a neat building!

Parkway Apr 8, 2014 2:16 PM

So far I like 3/4 of this building, hopefully that mostly blank wall will be hidden by any future development on the adjacent parking lot.

While the blue houses are old I hope no one tries to claim they are historic, a historic building needs either size, significance or context and at this point these buildings have lost all of their context.

techchallenger Apr 8, 2014 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Parkway (Post 6530266)
So far I like 3/4 of this building, hopefully that mostly blank wall will be hidden by any future development on the adjacent parking lot.

While the blue houses are old I hope no one tries to claim they are historic, a historic building needs either size, significance or context and at this point these buildings have lost all of their context.

Great looking tower indeed, but I prefer the handsome pre-Civil War building. I'll never understand why someone would purchase a perfectly useful property like that just to tear it town. There are plenty of empty lots available and in my opinion there is no need to cannibalize our historic stock. I think the tower would look fantastic as the twin of this blue relic.

summersm343 Apr 8, 2014 2:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Parkway (Post 6530266)
So far I like 3/4 of this building, hopefully that mostly blank wall will be hidden by any future development on the adjacent parking lot.

I like the tower too. The ONLY issue I have with it, is the small sliver between this proposed tower and the ramp down to the garage under the family court building will not be utilized. If they can incorporate that into the development I'll be 100% satisfied. The parking lot to the west of this can always be developed in the future with another tower.

McBane Apr 8, 2014 3:59 PM

Ideally, you keep the two rowhomes intact and build on the empty lot. I think those rowhomes would look really neat wedged between the modern high rises.

Do I care enough to get all NIMBY about it? Nope. Build on!

mmikeyphilly Apr 8, 2014 6:05 PM

This is certainly...interesting, creative, and original.
Where's the rest of the building? It sure is squeezed in that small amount of space. The floor plans have got to be small. I'm all for progress and seeing it get built. I just hope it doesn't adopt the name, "the doily building". Another blogger described it like that, and I'm afraid he/she is spot on. It will be interesting to see how the façade/wall turns out. :)

miesian Apr 8, 2014 6:23 PM

.....and people in Family Court will be able to see you walking around in your undies.

Yorkie Apr 8, 2014 10:33 PM

That would be cherry if built the way it is shown in the rendering..:tup::cool::cool::tup:

Plokoon11 Apr 8, 2014 10:45 PM

The glass is strange looking on it, sort of art nouvaish.

buildup Apr 8, 2014 11:01 PM

Is there a height limit in this area? It always bothers me that they construct these buildings that are the same height next to each other. It's bad enough the Family Court is the same height as the building next door but now the put another one next to them.

Flyers2001 Apr 10, 2014 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by buildup (Post 6531117)
Is there a height limit in this area? It always bothers me that they construct these buildings that are the same height next to each other. It's bad enough the Family Court is the same height as the building next door but now the put another one next to them.

Yes there is a height limit in the area. Summers can go over it in detail. It has something to do with the parkway and view blocking. I believe this building would fall in line with it.

summersm343 Apr 10, 2014 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyers2001 (Post 6533313)
Yes there is a height limit in the area. Summers can go over it in detail. It has something to do with the parkway and view blocking. I believe this building would fall in line with it.

250 foot height limit within 250 feet of the Parkway

summersm343 Apr 16, 2014 2:17 AM

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1528 Cherry Street - The developer, through counsel, will be presenting to us tonight. This project was previously presented to LSNA for information only. There were no objections expressed. The near neighbors are satisfied and the developer will enter into a NDA with LSNA, which is in the process of being drafted. ZBA review is scheduled for April 23.
https://docs.google.com/a/lsnaphilly...jg5N2Q3YWVjNDg

summersm343 Apr 30, 2014 7:04 PM

No decision from the ZBA as of now. They are waiting to hear back from the Planning Commission on their recommendation for the lot.

http://www.phillyliving.com/blog/201...-street-tower/

iheartphilly Apr 30, 2014 7:13 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 6559195)
No decision from the ZBA as of now. They are waiting to hear back from the Planning Commission on their recommendation for the lot.

http://www.phillyliving.com/blog/201...-street-tower/

Wow...the size of their studio is 275 sq ft. Are there going to be many takers for something of this size?

summersm343 Apr 30, 2014 7:15 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 6559203)
Wow...the size of their studio is 275 sq ft. Are there going to be many takers for something of this size?

I agree. That's insanely small. I see the city should sell the entire lot to the developer and let them go wild.

Insoluble Apr 30, 2014 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 6559203)
Wow...the size of their studio is 275 sq ft. Are there going to be many takers for something of this size?

Eh, I imagine there's a market for young singles looking for cheap apartments in Center City and are willing to sacrifice space. If the price is right I suspect they'll be willing to sell them. I've lived in an efficiency about that size during grad school. It's not that bad when your young.

I'm more curious about the office space on floors 2 through 8. These are fairly small floor plates I would imagine so I'm guessing they are targeting small start up firms? Is there a reason they don't go all residential? I'm not complaining about the added office space, I'm just a bit surprised. I suppose it's a good sign of the office sector making a comeback.

philatonian May 1, 2014 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 6559203)
Wow...the size of their studio is 275 sq ft. Are there going to be many takers for something of this size?

If they can make it cheap, sure. But I don't mean $900 a month cheap, I mean $450 cheap. It's an odd neighborhood despite its proximity to everything. The Arts Condo still struggles to rent out its small studios for $900 to $1000 and it's in a much more desirable spot.

iheartphilly May 1, 2014 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by philatonian (Post 6559710)
If they can make it cheap, sure. But I don't mean $900 a month cheap, I mean $450 cheap. It's an odd neighborhood despite its proximity to everything. The Arts Condo still struggles to rent out its small studios for $900 to $1000 and it's in a much more desirable spot.

$450 cheap could be someone's pied-a-terre.:tup:

philatonian May 1, 2014 1:13 AM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 6559728)
$450 cheap could be someone's pied-a-terre.:tup:

HAHA good point! If I ever have to (shudder) move to the suburbs I'll keep that in mind :)

Baconboy007 May 1, 2014 2:00 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 6559728)
$450 cheap could be someone's pied-a-terre.:tup:

Or a crash pad for the less professional :cheers::drunk:

summersm343 Jul 16, 2014 1:35 AM

Rowhomes on the site of this project are being demolished.

Thanks to new member Vince for the photo

http://i.imgur.com/Le9y2Iz.jpg

1487 Jul 16, 2014 2:13 PM

Im right in front of this and had no idea the demo started, then again I dont usually walk north on 16th. This project has really been under the radar.

1487 Jul 16, 2014 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Parkway (Post 6530266)
So far I like 3/4 of this building, hopefully that mostly blank wall will be hidden by any future development on the adjacent parking lot.

While the blue houses are old I hope no one tries to claim they are historic, a historic building needs either size, significance or context and at this point these buildings have lost all of their context.

adjacent parking lot belongs to City building at 1515 arch, you can rest assured it will not be built on as long as city is in that building.

philatonian Jul 17, 2014 12:46 AM

How likely is this tower? The rendering looked really experimental. Is funding in place? Is the apartment developer leveling these houses, or are they being demolished by the original owner for speculative future development? I hope it happens. We don't need another surface lot.

josef Jul 17, 2014 2:28 AM

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Originally Posted by philatonian (Post 6657789)
How likely is this tower? The rendering looked really experimental. Is funding in place? Is the apartment developer leveling these houses, or are they being demolished by the original owner for speculative future development? I hope it happens. We don't need another surface lot.

It does kind of look like a building in the background of an early PS2 game.

1487 Jul 17, 2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by philatonian (Post 6657789)
How likely is this tower? The rendering looked really experimental. Is funding in place? Is the apartment developer leveling these houses, or are they being demolished by the original owner for speculative future development? I hope it happens. We don't need another surface lot.

Im thinking that the project is going forward if the building is being demolished. I dont see them taking on that expense if they werent sure construction of the new building was imminent.

Baconboy007 Jul 17, 2014 1:38 PM

If it is being built this is a really quick turn around time. The building was only proposed in April or at least that's when we heard of it.

philatonian Jul 18, 2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1487 (Post 6658230)
Im thinking that the project is going forward if the building is being demolished. I dont see them taking on that expense if they werent sure construction of the new building was imminent.

That depends on whether the developer owns the property and tore the buildings down, or if the original owner still owns the land. Sometimes the seller will tear down buildings in anticipation of a tentative buyer, the buyer can back out, or the buyer will give up on the project and turn it into parking hoping another, wealthier buyer comes along. It's how we end up with so many dang parking lots.

philatonian Jul 18, 2014 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by josef (Post 6657907)
It does kind of look like a building in the background of an early PS2 game.

LOL true. The skin kind of reminds me of the front on the addition to the old coffee shop in the Gayborhood. I can't find a better picture of it.

http://www.thejawn.com/jawn-photos/c...1344978979.jpg

MikeNigh Aug 21, 2014 6:02 PM

It looks like the lot is completely demolished. Anyone know if this is getting built now?

1487 Aug 22, 2014 1:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNigh (Post 6700347)
It looks like the lot is completely demolished. Anyone know if this is getting built now?

I'll check on it today hopefully.

update: nothing is going on. There is construction going on in the street right now that actually has access to the site blocked. A contractor is doing utility and light pole foundation work related to family court on this block.

Jawnadelphia Sep 26, 2014 8:15 PM

Nothing new, although you can rent ...what looks to be an office cubicle (1) - for $400 a month across the street.

[IMG]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3878/...f87ecc5d_z.jpg004 by TallCoolOne2014, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3868/...08e45f22_z.jpg003 by TallCoolOne2014, on Flickr[/IMG]

[IMG]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/...fa146f31_z.jpg005 by TallCoolOne2014, on Flickr[/IMG]

summersm343 Sep 26, 2014 8:35 PM

It absolutely baffles me that the city doesn't sell them the parking lot and the small strip of land next to this so they can just develop the entire thing with a new highrise :???:

boxbot Jan 25, 2015 6:59 AM

Not sure if this project is dead but I hadn't seen this render of the facade on their website previously; strange building.

http://i.imgur.com/X6wQ7mI.jpg

jsbrook Jan 25, 2015 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by boxbot (Post 6888719)
Not sure if this project is dead but I hadn't seen this render of the facade on their website previously; strange building.

http://i.imgur.com/X6wQ7mI.jpg

I can't even really figure this one out...just not seeing it built. At lease not in its present incarnation.

1487 Jan 26, 2015 1:44 PM

Those images have been on the site for many months now. It certainly doesnt appear that anything is happening with this project- which makes me wonder why the buildings were demolished so quickly last summer.

PHL10 Jan 26, 2015 1:44 PM

I hope it’s not dead as they tore down two well maintained and perfectly functional 19th century row homes.

summersm343 May 12, 2015 1:04 AM

From LSNA

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We previously reviewed this project and issued a letter of non opposition. The developer has the variances he needs from the ZBA. Upon further review, the developer agrees with our original suggestion that the stairwell should be on the East side of the project facing the new Family Court Building and the picture windows should face West up the Parkway. This would increase the FAR from 15.7 to 16 with no impact upon the near neighbors. They do not need any further variances from the ZBA but would appreciate a letter of non opposition from LSNA for Administrative Review of these proposed changes. Since these were essentially our recommendations originally, we should have no opposition to this and I will make a motion to that effect tonight.
https://docs.google.com/a/lsnaphilly...ZiMzY0ODRkYjg0

summersm343 Jun 9, 2015 1:20 AM

Slightly new renderings

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...lide-2-New.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...lide-1-New.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...ide-7-New1.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/wp-...y-Slide-10.jpg

http://www.ambitarchitecture.com/pro...cherry-street/

Insoluble Jun 9, 2015 2:11 PM

I kinda like that facade treatment. It's an interesting departure from the typical wall of blue glass. That being said, something about these renderings says, "I'm trying to flip this property," to me.

iheartphilly Jun 9, 2015 2:38 PM

That's a lot of "busy" going on with the skin of this building and some of the adjacent ones.

philatonian Aug 19, 2015 1:54 AM

Well the parking lot has been paved over and has a "for rent" sign on it, so I think it's safe to say this proposal is dead. Along with two old townhouses for no-good-reason.

Knight Hospitaller Aug 19, 2015 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by philatonian (Post 7134129)
Well the parking lot has been paved over and has a "for rent" sign on it, so I think it's safe to say this proposal is dead. Along with two old townhouses for no-good-reason.

That's a shame, especially given the interesting facade. Something with a larger footprint is probably a better idea for what is now one big empty lot, although I see from an earlier post that the City owns the adjoining property.

1487 Aug 19, 2015 12:32 PM

wow.

Baconboy007 Aug 19, 2015 2:03 PM

The developers should get a fine or some punishment for things like this.:hell:

Knight Hospitaller Aug 19, 2015 2:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Baconboy007 (Post 7134617)
The developers should get a fine or some punishment for things like this.:hell:

Jazzy rendering to flat surface would truly take "bait and switch" to a new low. I have no information on which to have an opinion about the developer's bona fides. It does seem like a slim building surrounded by asphalt would be a hard sell, but I'm sure they weren't planning on the attempted rental of a paved over postage stamp that will generate no income. It does seem reasonable (except in cases of hardship or danger) to expect a developer to refrain from demolishing a building until all pieces are in place for its replacement.

PHL10 Aug 19, 2015 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight Hospitaller (Post 7134666)
Jazzy rendering to flat surface would truly take "bait and switch" to a new low. I have no information on which to have an opinion about the developer's bona fides. It does seem like a slim building surrounded by asphalt would be a hard sell, but I'm sure they weren't planning on the attempted rental of a paved over postage stamp that will generate no income. It does seem reasonable (except in cases of hardship or danger) to expect a developer to refrain from demolishing a building until all pieces are in place for its replacement.

It’s typical. The same thing happened at 1900 Arch and although everyone hates that building, we are lucky that the developer managed to get it off the ground. That site had several 19th century buildings demo’d before they had a single approval in place for the new building. It’s really a disgrace. I’m not a hyper-preservationists and I’m ok with the sacrificing some older buildings for a superior project but someone needs to be forced to do that analysis and hold the developers responsible.


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