Saskatoon Civic Election, 2016
A thread for all things related to the upcoming Civic Election in October.
Things are about to heat up with Coun. Charlie Clark formally announcing his mayoral candidacy next week. Can he unseat Atch? Is he the young, progressive, urban candidate many of us have been wishing for? Our Nenshi or Iveson, if you will. Can he bridge the political spectrum? Who else might step forward? |
City councillor Charlie Clark to announce mayoral bid next week
Andrea Hill, Saskatoon StarPhoenix Phil Tank, Saskatoon StarPhoenix Published on: May 13, 2016 | Last Updated: May 13, 2016 7:57 AM CST http://wpmedia.thestarphoenix.com/20...0&h=630&crop=1 Quote:
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Clark is 100% the right choice for an urban Saskatoon I suspect he'll easily win the city inside Circle Drive. Outside, that's another story.
This will be the most important election in decades for Saskatoon. |
Yes. Atch has consistently won outside Circle Drive, while his main opponent has won inside. I think Tom Wolf came so close to catching Atch, in part, because he was able to position himself quite centrally. People were pissed off about the roads last election too, so there was that.
Are people across the spectrum fatigued with Atch? Is it palpable in the city? In my circles it is, but I hang with a certain crowd. Charlie is going to get painted as a leftie - can he position himself as a moderate? Another thing, if he can lock up inside Circle Drive, and motivate and get people excited to vote that might not have - he can win on GOTV. Inner city wards have embarrassingly low voter turnouts (as does the city as a whole). He has to mobilize his base! And stoke the Anyone But Atch fire. |
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The biggest thing I give Atch credit for is that he has made decisions and got things done unlike previous administrations. Whether you agree with the things he has done or not (and I don't always agree) he made a decision. Such as Gathercole building, south bridge etc.
I wouldn't mind a new mayor but not Charlie Clark. So if it is a choice between the two I for one will vote for Atch. |
I hope that the folks of Saskatoon don't have to put up with, yet, ANOTHER term of Atch.
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I was at the council meeting where the fate of the Gathercole Centre was decided. After a couple hours of presentations of potential adaptive re-uses of the facility and much discussion & debate, it appeared that council was split. My impression was that slightly more councilors were in favour of saving the old building. Council then took an in camera break. Upon their return to chambers, council voted (nearly unanimously, as I recall) to demolish the Gathercole building. It seemed clear that Atch had basically told them all that he wanted that building torn down and that was what was going to happen. So while you can argue about the wisdom of that and many other decisions made during Atch's time as mayor, there is no denying that he makes decisions and gets things done. That being said, I think that people have grown tired of him and that Clark will be our next mayor. The development of River Landing Village (Parcel Y) has taken too long for Atch to see that become his legacy project. He'll have to settle for South Circle Drive Bridge being named after him. |
In room full of supporters, city councillor Charlie Clark confirms mayoral bid
Saskatoon StarPhoenix Published on: May 18, 2016 | Last Updated: May 18, 2016 12:50 PM CST Quote:
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Saskatoon probably needs to clean house of its current council members, they have stalled far too many projects.. Atchison on the other hand has done more to spur growth and fiscal responsibility than probably all the other mayors prior in the last few decades when infrastructure was falling apart and needing to be torn down..
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after hearing what clark is running on and now Dayday thinking of running again looks like I am forced to vote for Atch :(
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So far there are 3 open ward races:
Ward 6 - Clark (running for Mayor) Ward 8 - Olauson (elected as MLA) Ward 9 - Paulsen (retiring) |
Mayor confirms he will not be attending 2016 Pride Parade
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^ The crap that spews from this guy's mouth. It's embarrassing. The Mayor will attend the Pride BBQ so that he can grab a burger and go before "they" get too close. |
Dayday runs for mayor
I guess Henry has forgotten that we were so fed up with his administration that he finished 3rd when we booted him out.
His administration was famous for sitting on the fence and trying to please everyone. In the end little got done. A lot of our infrastructure deficit is a result of his administration not wanting to spend 2 cents. We could (and should) have built the south bridge when Henry was mayor. Considering where construction costs have gone (tripled or more) we could have built that project for half to a third the cost. Projects that are been planned right now would have been completed years ago at a fraction of the cost had it not been for the delays in Henry's administration. Well Henry, you complain about the cost of the art gallery but the money we could have saved on the south bridge would build the entire gallery. I was so glad to see you go in 2000 and wish the same fate for you in 2016. |
So, who is Dayday going to be stealing votes from. He's considered old establishment, so could take votes from Atch. But he's also more left-leaning, so could take votes from Clark. Curious to see if he has any impact at all.
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Dayday is one of the most right wing mayors we've ever had.
He essentially destroyed infrastructure in his tenure by aggressively cutting spending. The City still hasn't recovered fully. |
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Atchison, Clark in dead heat in Saskatoon mayoral race: poll
Phil Tank, Saskatoon StarPhoenix Published on: August 3, 2016 | Last Updated: August 3, 2016 8:23 AM CST http://wpmedia.thestarphoenix.com/20...0&h=630&crop=1 Quote:
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Voter Turnout 2012 - 36.86% 2009 - 27.32% 2006 - 37.1 % |
As I expected, we have another candidate running for mayor with some very impressive credentials:
Kelley Moore http://moore4mayor.ca/ |
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You have Atchison, whom everyone knows and either dislikes or dislikes him more. Clark who is against the way the city has been growing despite being on council the last 2 terms, and partially responsible for it, I'm interested to learn what his actual platform is, haven't really heard anything except that he's an alternative to Atchison. Dayday, same as Atchison. Moore, who seems to be in the anti-development camp, reading her interview in the neighbourhood express, is opposed to the south downtown...still, even though the ship has sailed. Just an aside, her partner in business and life is Lenore Sywstun. Do you think it is coincidence that on the same day as her announcement the heritage society tries to stake claim to the 3rd Ave united church? |
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The chances of new towers going up Atchison - probably Clark - after hearing what the over 65 club likes for market mall - not good chances Dayday - yes but north of industrial by arena Moore - yes as long as they are not higher than 3 stories and are made of brick lol just a funny thought |
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"One of the major issues she sees coming up in the campaign is the south downtown, and whether too much time and money has gone into its development, along with tax abatements for the upcoming hotel and condo development. People are frustrated about how long it’s taken to get shovels in the ground — and they’re not in yet, she noted." |
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I'm curious, what are people's thoughts on the election? We should all be engaged, especially being on this forum, so I find it interesting this thread isn't more active.
Do you feel Atch will continue on? Do you feel the "progressive" side is split? Do you have any intuitions of any other non-incumbent other newcomers joining? I would love to hear any and all perspectives and have a respectful and forward conversation. |
I agree that the level of interest in the civic election is very low and would expect it to to that way until after Labour Day, when things traditionally heat up. Unfortunately, I don't think it will get any more interesting come fall.
As much as I've had some personal disagreements with Atch through the years I do believe that he has been a very good mayor for Saskatoon. That being said, I think his time is up and expect to see Mayor Charlie later this fall. |
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Atch has been a decent mayor and has got plenty done. However, in the process of getting things done there are always people who disagree with his decisions so Atch has lots of "baggage" so to speak. Charlie Clark is a viable alternative to Atch if it is really time for a change. He has done an admirable job as a city councillor and has experience. I see Moore as no viable option. No experience on council and not a strong business background. She has no hope of my vote. Dayday's ship has sailed and is definitely not a viable option. We voted him out for many reasons once before and I wish him well in retirement. I voted him out once and I never want to have to vote him out again. My vote will be going to Clark or Atch. |
The candidate's views on a prospective new arena:
http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local...downtown-arena |
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Honestly I can't forsee any reality in which I would vote for Dayday. His comments on the study for the arena clearly show he is incapable of forward thinking or even considering that the people and businesses of this cities views may have changed in 30 years.
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Mayoral Candidates Call for Release of Preliminary Budget:
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Atchison leads Clark with Moore third, poll says
PHIL TANK, SASKATOON STARPHOENIX Published on: September 16, 2016 | Last Updated: September 16, 2016 4:00 AM CST Quote:
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doesnt surprise me. thoughts anyone ? |
No real surprise. The vote splitting between Clark & Moore may well carry Atch to another win.
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The Silly Season
Every election cycle is sure to bring out the ideologues, the rhetoric and an historical review of a candidates actions. One of my favorite hobbies is to catch politicians rhetoric not matching their actions. Some call it hypocrisy. The all candidates town hall revealed that the mayoral race could be entertaining.
Today I'll focus on Charlie Clark. What strikes me here is that Clark criticized city council for needing to spend $50 million on overpasses because of poor planning. Where was Charlie? This was a council that he sat on. This sudden jolt of fiscal conservatism comes from a guy who is all-in on spending $250 million and $10,000 per month on bike lanes that almost no one uses, causes traffic congestion downtown, and city voters had no say on. It is almost comical to watch Charlie perform as someone who cares about our money. |
This Site
I just have to say that this site is absolutely brutal to get around on. Very user UNfriendly to say the least. Imagine speaking to the public and trying to direct them to the Saskatoon civic election comments on here.
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Why are these projects that have a massive cost, not approved by the people? This goes for anything, including bike lanes. These people shouldn't have the power to put us all in debt with the flick of a pen. A short term (4 year) dictatorship is still a dictatorship.
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This website is easy for anyone under 35 to navigate. Compare it to reddit or 4chan or any of the older forums and SSP is downright easy to use. |
Kelley Moore says art gallery planning 'a colossal disaster'
Charles Hamilton, Saskatoon StarPhoenix Published on: September 20, 2016 | Last Updated: September 20, 2016 8:29 PM CST Quote:
Have any of the other candidates spoke about a new campus for SIAST? I know its been brought up before but I'm not sure if anyone has spoken for/against it. I'd love to see it happen, especially if it includes student housing and the development of a student-oriented area with shops, restaurants and bars. |
^ There are definitely interesting opportunities for a new/expanded Sask Polytechnic to tie into the North Downtown plan.
It's a bit of a head scratcher as part of a campaign platform at the municipal level though. It seems the province would have to be the lead on it and put up much of the cash, which I don't see happening given current conditions. But as part of a long term vision for the city, yeah, I fully support an expanded presence of our postsecondary institutions in the city centre. |
The gloves came off from the Clark campaign yesterday with a very strong statement trashing Atch's leadership. This is exactly what Clark needed to get some forward momentum going again.
Anyone get the sense that Moore is becoming a less compelling voice in this campaign? I feel like her early gains in the polls may have been a bit artificial due to her novelty as a candidate. Some of her campaign's behavior on social media lately has been amateur to say the least. She may have peaked. These upcoming mayoral forums/debates are going to be interesting. Atch does not do well with being challenged. |
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Did anyone catch the live mayoral forum today? I watched it live. In my opinion i think kelley moore sure stepped up and had some good points.
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Yup, there's vote-splitting taking place among Atch's opponents. Also a large number of undecided voters
Full story from the S-P about the latest poll: http://thestarphoenix.com/news/local...ight-race-poll |
The % of undecided voters growing from the last poll is interesting.
Atch, Clark, and Moore are essentially in a dead heat. |
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Yup there is also vote splitting taking place among Moore opponents. Hope undecided don't decide on Moore.
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Liveable YXE has posted their candidate report card. The organization is questionable but it provides some nice insight into each candidate from Mayoral to Councillors.
http://liveableyxe.ca/report-card/ There's also a new poll from Mainstreet tomorrow. Last poll saw an increase from Moore, decreases from Atch and Clark, and a "showing" from Hein. As previously noted: Atch - 26% (-3) Clark - 23% (-1) Moore - 22% (+4) Hein - 1% Undecided - 28% (+6) |
Moore - 27 (+5)
Atch - 25 (-1) Clark - 23 (NC) Hein - 4 (+3) Undecided - 21 (-7) http://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/moo...clark-stalled/ |
Wow. At this rate Clark may have to step down in order to avoid splitting the anyone but Atch vote. Who would have thought.
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