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isaidso Oct 26, 2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NYC GUY (Post 5879877)
Looks better there then here in NYC.

Interesting. You're right though. Those Foster twins looked a little out of place in NYC. Near the CN Tower they look dynamite.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8...ecc63ea5_z.jpg
Oxford by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

FrumYid Oct 26, 2012 12:04 PM

Won`t be supertall-enough for me until it tops the antannae on FCP. ;) The `White Knight` on King St. in downtown TO seems unwilling to reliquish his crown...

Ed007Toronto Oct 26, 2012 1:48 PM

My understanding is this isn't the final design by Foster but rather more a placeholder for now.

DrNest Oct 26, 2012 2:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FrumYid (Post 5880563)
Won`t be supertall-enough for me until it tops the antannae on FCP. ;) The `White Knight` on King St. in downtown TO seems unwilling to reliquish his crown...

I like the proposed height. For its location it will blend perfectly with the viewing decks of the CN Tower without causing too great an obstruction to the distance view to the north east.

Personally I like the idea that the Oxford towers will surpass FCP in roof height, but not to the absolute tip. Unless they put an antenna or spire on top, which I doubt as there's no need for one so close to the CN Tower, and a spire just doesn't fit with the building's asthetics.

Dylan Leblanc Oct 26, 2012 3:10 PM

Heights have now been put into the database for these towers so the drawings for them that were in the diagrams are no longer showing.

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=56692438

J. Will Oct 26, 2012 5:25 PM

Between this and the John/King towers, we could have 5 supertalls u/c at the same time in a couple years.

Zapatan Oct 26, 2012 8:27 PM

Twin supertalls for Toronto?

I love it! :D

Fatality Oct 26, 2012 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Will (Post 5880911)
Between this and the John/King towers, we could have 5 supertalls u/c at the same time in a couple years.

Hm, quite a stretch but who knows....

I never thought a supertall could be proposed so close to the CN Tower but I suppose this is a priority.

The height has been said to be negotiable and flexible by oxford so if the city doesnt agree (and they probably wont considering their hate for anything big and revolutionary) oxford might go ahead with a reduced height.

So it seems that oxford has proposed this height to simply draw away the attention from the casino that is mandatory.

caltrane74 Oct 26, 2012 10:47 PM

In this area no one to complain.

The complaining will come from those opposed to the casino.

ltsmotorsport Oct 27, 2012 6:16 AM

Sorry, but this kinda proves what a hack architect Foster really is. This guy can't come up with an original idea in 10 years and has to recycle a design for the WTC. Not impressed. Doesn't matter the location. This guy just has no original ideas.

red-paladin Oct 27, 2012 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ltsmotorsport (Post 5881731)
Sorry, but this kinda proves what a hack architect Foster really is. This guy can't come up with an original idea in 10 years and has to recycle a design for the WTC. Not impressed. Doesn't matter the location. This guy just has no original ideas.

Um have you seen The Bow in Calgary? or Jameson House in Vancouver?

koops65 Oct 27, 2012 5:38 PM

Here are my new drawings of the twin supertalls...

[IMG]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8...bc1cd385_z.jpg[/IMG]

cruzin4u Oct 27, 2012 7:26 PM

I don't think it has been confirmed that we are getting the former WTC tower design. I think it's just a place holder or am I wrong?

koops65 Oct 27, 2012 8:05 PM

The press release render says, "For massing / illustration purposes only." so who knows what we'll end up with? My guess is something totally different, but it could end up being similar, time will tell.

DrNest Oct 27, 2012 8:23 PM

This is a fundamental design that Foster has banded around for over a decade now for various construction projects. I can guess that it is something he is determined to see realised and to become his legacy. The cross bracing facade is something that often appears in his designs. In my opinion it is like a trademark rather than lack of originality.

Fatality Oct 28, 2012 1:59 AM

Not only is the design temporary but Oxford has claimed that height is negotiable and have only proposed such a height because they believe it is acceptable for the site. So if the city were to decrease the height (which they probably will do if they ever accept the proposal) Oxford will have no problem accepting. This is because their main priority is the casino, so the supertall announcement may have just been done to take the focus off of the casino and distract the city. We may not even be getting supertalls when this is done.

Gresto Oct 28, 2012 2:22 AM

^Precisely my fear/expectation.

isaidso Oct 28, 2012 2:26 AM

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Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 5881986)
Here are my new drawings of the twin supertalls...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8...bc1cd385_z.jpg

Looks great. They have the potential to be the best looking skyscrapers in the country. Easily in my top 10 globally.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Oct 28, 2012 5:31 AM

Eh that design has been recycled many times over..not impressed.

red-paladin Oct 28, 2012 8:34 AM

If the end result looks anything like The Bow, these two will be awesome!


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