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JACKinBeantown Jan 17, 2018 4:19 AM

This building combined with the creek redevlopment is going to make the neighborhood.
The tower is situated against and existing tree-lined park, it will have its own tree-lined
street which will also have several stores, cafes, other retail(?) along an expansive sidewalk.

The opposite side has just as many trees, so the potential is there to match it with retail
plus office/living/hotel space.

Hey, there's already a Domino's and some cool looking joint on the corner already.

The corner on Google maps:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4264...7i13312!8i6656


The building:
https://thefrosttower.com/wp-content...ost-West-1.jpg
https://thefrosttower.com/wp-content...ost-West-1.jpg


Raul's awesome photo:
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Originally Posted by The Model (Post 8040643)


JACKinBeantown Jan 17, 2018 4:36 AM

Plus, right down the block is this:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4256...7i13312!8i6656

AwesomeSAView Jan 18, 2018 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 8049465)
Plus, right down the block is this:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4256...7i13312!8i6656

Anyone looking to redevelop this???:cheers:

Kinda reminds me of areas of Manhattan or Brooklyn, don't you think??:yes:

JACKinBeantown Jan 18, 2018 3:09 AM

I'd love to redevelop it. They don't make entrances like that anymore. Those three encased areas behind the windows would make great places for tables in either a bar or restaurant. The bones of the building are awesome. I hope it stays and gets a good rehab in the next couple years.

Fryguy Jan 18, 2018 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeSAView (Post 8050671)
Anyone looking to redevelop this???:cheers:

Kinda reminds me of areas of Manhattan or Brooklyn, don't you think??:yes:

Eww. No. That area is nothing like any part in NY. Looks more like downtown Laredo. Gross. Tear down and start over.

Keep-SA-Lame Jan 18, 2018 5:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8051255)
Eww. No. That area is nothing like any part in NY. Looks more like downtown Laredo. Gross. Tear down and start over.

If in the past we had torn down every building as it became "gross" and started over San Antonio would have like six historic buildings left. Half of Southtown used to be pretty "gross", and thank God people had the foresight to not just "tear down and start over". It just needs a rehab, it's an incredible building. Plus it has a dank carriage entrance to the left that leads to a really cool unused courtyard that has an old barn or something out back. This thing is just oozing redevelopment potential.

Spoiler Jan 18, 2018 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8051255)
Eww. No. That area is nothing like any part in NY. Looks more like downtown Laredo. Gross. Tear down and start over.

Yeah. That area could really use another parking garage or chain hotel.

Buildings of that age are literally irreplaceable and help define SA's identity for many. It's important to keep what's left.

AwesomeSAView Jan 18, 2018 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8051255)
Eww. No. That area is nothing like any part in NY. Looks more like downtown Laredo. Gross. Tear down and start over.



Ahhhhh, I see you haven't been to Manhattan nor Brooklyn lately, and I'm not talking about being to the "tourist areas". Those of course are always well kept.:yes:

Sigaven Jan 18, 2018 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8051255)
Eww. No. That area is nothing like any part in NY. Looks more like downtown Laredo. Gross. Tear down and start over.

Really? These buildings have good bones and historic character and are totally salvageable to make nice again. If we went by your logic then historic preservation efforts wouldn't exist and areas like St. Pauls Square and the entire King William neighborhood would have been torn down a long time ago.

deeger Jan 18, 2018 7:36 PM

https://image.ibb.co/nxASnR/IMG_2348.jpg

Does anyone know why they're suspending those platforms off the side of the 8th floor?

JACKinBeantown Jan 18, 2018 9:34 PM

I think they're adding a drawbridge component.

JACKinBeantown Jan 18, 2018 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8051255)
Eww. No. That area is nothing like any part in NY. Looks more like downtown Laredo. Gross. Tear down and start over.

Uh huh. Anyway, those tile entrance ways are works of art themselves. This little building could be something really cool... like a more urban version of Viva Tacoland.

p.s. - Having lived in New York for 18 years I can testify that there are (or at least were) tons of places similar to this in the East Village, Inwood, old Tribeca, pre-hipster Brooklyn, even the old P&G Bar on 73rd & Amsterdam (which I hear has reopened a few blocks north).

JACKinBeantown Jan 18, 2018 9:41 PM

5 stars on Yelp:

https://www.yelp.com/biz/reyes-bar-san-antonio

It actually looks like a cool dive bar. I might have to stop in next time I'm in town.
https://i1.ypcdn.com/blob/bd3cbe2d12...0x260_crop.jpg
https://i1.ypcdn.com/blob/bd3cbe2d12...0x260_crop.jpg

txex06 Jan 18, 2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 8052109)
5 stars on Yelp:

https://www.yelp.com/biz/reyes-bar-san-antonio

It actually looks like a cool dive bar. I might have to stop in next time I'm in town.
https://i1.ypcdn.com/blob/bd3cbe2d12...0x260_crop.jpg
https://i1.ypcdn.com/blob/bd3cbe2d12...0x260_crop.jpg

That bar is rarely ever open. Always empty, dark, and closed. I drive by there a few times a week. The old downtown blog writer for the Express-News Benjamin Olivio wrote an article years ago about the one time he saw Reyes Bar open and went in and had a beer. I think the owners of the building live in the small shack behind the building. I sometimes see a Cadillac pull out of the alley next to the building that's chained up.

JACKinBeantown Jan 19, 2018 12:58 AM

So it definitely needs to be redeveloped! Who's with me? I have plenty of experience in bars.

Restless 1 Jan 19, 2018 1:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 8052385)
So it definitely needs to be redeveloped! Who's with me? I have plenty of experience in bars.

I'm in. Got some experience behind bars. :runaway::cheers:

Fryguy Jan 19, 2018 5:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeSAView (Post 8051645)
Ahhhhh, I see you haven't been to Manhattan nor Brooklyn lately, and I'm not talking about being to the "tourist areas". Those of course are always well kept.:yes:

I love walking the streets of NYC. I have been there enough times. I have also been to downtown Laredo. Gross.

Fryguy Jan 19, 2018 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deeger (Post 8051852)
https://image.ibb.co/nxASnR/IMG_2348.jpg

Does anyone know why they're suspending those platforms off the side of the 8th floor?

That's the 7th floor lol

micahinsa Jan 19, 2018 8:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8051520)
Yeah. That area could really use another parking garage or chain hotel.

Buildings of that age are literally irreplaceable and help define SA's identity for many. It's important to keep what's left.


Meh. I'm kind of with Fryguy on this one.

I don't think the only choices are either leave it there or put in some crappy generic hotel chain.

I mean, if you could choose between redeveloping the remnants of that building or build something like the Thompson, or Floodgate, which would you pick?

Some stuff is worth preserving, this doesn't fall in that category for me.

Fryguy Jan 19, 2018 1:03 PM

It took me one try of randomly pinning a location in Laredo downtown...

Dropped Pin
near 598-500 Convent Ave, Laredo, TX 78040
https://goo.gl/maps/tR6GiX57vHA2

It's literally the same thing. Gross.


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