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Damn talk about a cluster of density, Mission Valley gettin Chunky! Costa Mesa and Century City better look out lol
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MV is closer to 150-200ft max. |
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I'd be fine with a soccer stadium in an already developed lower density location, perhaps in Miramar or Southeast San Diego. Actually, somewhere along the Orange line would be ideal. I just drove east on Market, and then east on Imperial and it's amazing how much of the city is underdeveloped out there. It's a whole other world, places with transit bisecting dilapidated neighborhoods just waiting for the right economic climate to grow. |
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I have fond memories of very drunkenly ordering, walking to, and then gorging at food from that place. Good times. |
Regarding MV I was joking guys, an 80 Foot skydive center and suburban style hotel are nothing. Of course MV will never have a cluster like Century City. But with the big projects announced lately it will get very dense and the traffic could get so bad it will force people to use transit.
About the Soccer Specific Stadium wouldn't they need about 40 acres? I agree with you about Market and Imperial but I don't think there are any parcels that large. You need the Stadium and parking. Just took a long walk downtown. That Courtyard Marriott is only about 45 feet wide! That is going to be interesting. The Lane Field park looks like it will be very long and narrow will they build the entire park with Phase 1 of Lane Field or wait till the other tower goes up. Electra has an art gallery at its base pretty classy. BOSA please break ground on PAC Hwy we need something with curves on the water front I'm getting bored with the view along the water front row time for a new tower to come along. |
UTC would be a much better comparison to Century City as it is more clustered and has high rise residential. Of course as was pointed out CC has taller buildings, although we had seen proposals for buildings in UTC that are even taller than what is currently there.
In it's own right, Mission Valley is quite impressive with numerous buildings in the 5-20 story range. As was suggested, you could easily put Mission Valley up against Costa Mesa, and Mission Valley is continuing to double down on density. Recent developments, while not always transit oriented, continue to add to the density. Most of the valley is or will be multi-story with the exception of some retail, services, etc. |
North Embarcadero Phase 1 isn't a game changer in and of itself, but it's a key domino that needed to be knocked down in order to get other, bigger dominos falling. No one wants to be the first to build in a rundown area for fear that others won't follow. But now that the County Waterfront Park is done and Phase 1 is finishing, the area looks a little less crappy and a lot more welcoming. I don't think they would've started Lane Field without those two public projects. And I'm convinced (without any real evidence) that Bosa is waiting to make sure there's real progress around him before he breaks ground on Parcel 9 (Broadway & Pacific Highway).
The real game changer is the Navy Broadway Complex. If/when that gets started is a whole different conversation, though... |
I would hardly call the area run down now, that isn't what BOSA is worried about. Even if he broke ground today wouldn't his building and Phase 2 of Embarcadero be finishing around the same time? You have Lane Field across the Street and like I said that will have a nice park in front of it. The Headquarters is a short walk from Parcel 9. Obviously the Navy land is a big eyesore but BOSA is waiting on something else not seeing how his surroundings shape out.
When you think about it, the NBC will block most of the South facing views of his Pac Hwy tower anyway so it would be a better selling point to go with sales now while all that land is wide open. |
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And with regard to Phase 2, I'd be SO excited if I thought that would be done in the next couple years. But frankly, I'd be surprised if they broke ground in the next couple years. It's taken them more than 2 years to finish Phase 1, and it's not exactly a monster project. Last I heard, Phase 2 hadn't been scheduled, and they weren't sure about the source for funding. I live near all this, so I'm super excited about any news involving development on the western waterfront. But I'm trying to be realistic about the timing of it all. At some point, that area will be really freaking awesome. The NEVP will extend north past the Waterfront Park. Anthony's will be completely redone. Both Lane Field hotels will be up and running. They'll tranform Navy Pier into Veteran's Park and knock down that god-awful structure next to the Midway (and potentially add a god-awful sculpture, but I digress). The NBC will be built (Manchester will outlast and outspend his legal adversaries). And Bosa will put two towers SE of Broadway and Pacfic (one is planned and ready, but he also owns Office Depot which certainly isn't a long-term option). Oh, and they'll redo Seaport Village, too (current lease is up in 2018, and I bet they'll make some big changes then). All that may take decades, though. And that's precisely why I have an irrational hatred for the California Coastal Commission. |
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If there is no timetable and funding for Embarcadero Phase II where do the people trying to block Navy Broadway Complex because they want to see those 14 acres turned in to a grand park think the money will come from?
Their argument is completely irrational and obstructionist because the plan they are proposing would not happen for another 30 years if ever Where on earth do they think the money will come from to turn that in to a Park? :shrug: This is San Diego people at their worst, that area is no one's "Backyard" it is a blighted horrible eyesore on our waterfront and they are simply trying to stop thousands of jobs from moving forward and huge progress for absolutely no reason. What a disgrace. |
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