Nice, it has that W look.

That is what I always thought, when the renderings came out. Thought this looks like a W Hotel! Great news!!:cheers:

Is the market not large enough to justify a separate building?

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Yea, second that....

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I think there saying is what I'm thinking. I always hope the W hotel would come to SA in a building that is 20 to 30 stories and it is all W! If the W is going to be the hotel part of this mix use development that means its a real small W Hotel. Maybe it can be an Aloft, and W builds another building in the Pearl area.

Well typically the W has residences with it. At least this has office, but a little upset there was no residential included.

That's great news. Does anybody know the approximate residential-to-hotel ratio in the Pearl district? I wouldn't want it to become more of a tourist area than a residential area.

That area is heavily saturated with current and future apartment units, so I imagine the ratio of residents to tourists will remain high. The W would only be the second hotel in that area with the other being the Emma. I suspect more tourists would be staying in the downtown and airport area hotels.

^^ Thanks.

Hello people!!
San Antonio might be getting a W Hotel!!!
Celebrate!!!:cheers:
Don't wish for more, more, more!!!

And to think San Antonio is the only city in America to have a world recognized ,and full of awards, HOTEL EMMA!!
And I think we are 'supporting' this hotel very well! Wonder what other city could "support" a Hotel Emma?????

W Hotel came a little too late, IMO

The hotel market in San Antonio is a dream for developers if they know how to make it work in the most visited city in Texas ,and one of the most visited cities in America, and around the world!!!!:cheers:

Celebrate people!!:cheers:


GO SPURS GO!!!!

GO COMMANDERS!!!:cheers:

What does this mean? What kind of world recognition, what kind of awards does Emma have that other hotels in America don't?

Not saying Emma isn't a spectacular hotel (it most certainly is, perhaps the most spectacular in Texas in my opinion), but I find it hard to believe that the Emma stands alone among "world recognized" hotels around the US.

Edit: After doing some research, the Emma has been rated 5-diamond by Triple A. Congrats, Hotel Emma! Still though, there are other hotels in the US with 5-diamond rating (including one in houston)

Also why are we talking about this in this thread? lol

Can we ban her/him already?

This poster has never contributed anything useful to any discussion or thread. Everything posted by them has been implied city v. city boosterism..

If we banned posters by that criteria, there’d by maybe two posters slowed to post. :haha:

No one will be banned for that reason. You can choose to ignore an poster you disagree with or find annoying.

Really?? Ban? That is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. Love the enthusiasm AwsomeSA. Keep posting. I enjoy reading them!

The entire time I’ve been a member it has been my understanding that city v. city discussions and boosterism, especially when done in an aggressive and argumentative way, is a banable offense. This user’s comment history is in that vein.

What he posted in this thread and what you’re objectivingbto is not city vs. city. It is hometown boosterism, but that is not bannable nor should it be. Civic pride is a great thing to have and display. Also, I try a nip city vs. city tangist arguments before they begin.

Thank you UltraDanPrime!:cheers:

And everything I post is FACT.:cheers:
I sometimes feel some members on this forum want San Antonio to fail. They consistently belittle, criticize, and hate our beautiful, historical, unique city!
I wonder why? Oh well, the majority of the city, thinks and supports our city the way I do.:cheers:
People, it is called civic pride!!:cheers:

By the way is "poster" the correct word to use in this context???
Hmmmm:shrug:

GO SPURS GO!!

GO COMMANDERS!!

Ok, enough. Back to the topic at hand.

Because certain posters need multiple reminders. Please, get back to discussing the 1603 Broadway development. Thank you.

I was simply wondering, given the track record of high rise W hotels, why a separate tower wasn't proposed with the primary intent of housing the hotel. I'll be the first to admit that I'm simply a city development enthusiast with no professional experience, so I was hoping that the people on this forum with relevant knowledge could perhaps express why San Antonio is not getting a large W hotel such as the one in Austin. I was thinking that San Antonio might have a lower demand for very high luxury hotels.

IMO, it is because we have the Hotel Emma which is, I believe locally run and owned, and this hotel has already been given the highest ratings a hotel can get. And the hotel has not even been opened a long time. So, I am thinking other chains may be a little hesitant because of this. But, I applaud W Hotel for opening up a W on Broadway. They believe San Antonio can support the W with the Hotel Emma nearby!:cheers:
Austin has a larger W, but do they have a Hotel Emma? Food for thought, only because you brought up Austin on your post on a San Antonio thread. And by all means, not trying to be "weird". LOL:cheers:

A Great Day To All!!!!:cheers:

No, but then again San Antonio doesn't have a Driskill Hotel. But then again, San Antonio has the Menger. (ad nauseam) :cheers:

I don’t really understand the wishing it were a separate tower thing.

Many W hotels are combined with other uses like condos or office space. The one in Austin has office space at the bottom.

1. Having other uses makes it a taller building. Isn’t that what everyone here wants?

2. Large full service hotels often aren’t that profitable on their own. Adding another use allows owners to capture some of the W cachet and sell it to office users or condo buyers.

3. Office users use parking spaces during the day, hotel guests use parking spaces at night.

4. No one going to the W wants a room on the third floor. Having office space at the bottom moves the lowest guest room to a higher floor.

Actually, the one in Austin has office space only in the podium area of the project. There's also a music theatre in that part of the development. The tower itself is 10 floors of hotel space from levels 6 through 16. The rest of the tower is condos from level 18 to 37. It also has retail along the north side of its block.

I didn’t know the exact breakdown in Austin, but reinforces my point.

any updates on when this is supposed to break ground?

I noticed that The Arts Thompson is 314 feet and 20 stories, but this project is 255 feet at 20 stories, crossing my fingers the project height could change.

From: SA Express News- 11/27/19


GrayStreet’s Broadway tower and downtown renovations

Local firm GrayStreet Partners plans to build a 20-story hotel and office tower on Broadway near the Pearl. Nearly a year ago, the HDRC gave GrayStreet approval to start site work on the project, which will also include ground-floor retail.

Luxury chain W Hotels wants to open a 195-room location in the building. The hotel is in the planning stages, parent company Marriott International told data firm STR, which tracks the hospitality industry.

Farther down Broadway Street, GrayStreet is in the process of rehabilitating the former San Antonio Light building into offices. The firm is also renovating the Kress and Grant buildings on Houston downtown for co-working giant WeWork and a food hall.

Ownership of the Kress building was recently restructured, but GrayStreet remains the developer, city spokesman Carlos Valenzuela said. City Council members OK’d about $1.3 million this summer to help GrayStreet make cosmetic changes to the buildings.

The firm’s development director, Peter French, didn’t respond to multiple inquiries

https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/re...era/ar-BBZjVnC

From the article: "And the evolution will continue with the Light Building on lower Broadway, Jefferson Bank’s 12-story headquarters near the Pearl, the mixed-use 1603 Broadway just getting underway down the street and CPS Energy’s new headquarters..."

Has anyone been by there and seen them beginning to prep for this project? I went by before the holidays and it still looked like the plot was being used as parking for the crew working on the Credit Human HQ.

I hadn't heard anything on this project in a while. I'm willing to admit I may be grasping at straws here, but I'm hopeful this is a sign the project will break ground soon.

Excellent article by the way!!!:yes::tup:
Yes, and let's hope so.....:cheers:

I came across a few additional renderings and project details on Transwestern's website: http://tinyurl.com/yx82fuqs

Gensler's site also has some tidbits: http://tinyurl.com/u2zyjbt

Gensler opened an office on Houston Street, about three blocks from my office, last year. I'd be surprised if this project doesn't get underway by Q3 2020. Hopefully sooner. :)

I still love this don't get me wrong. But they could have done an infinity pool over the southern edge. That would have been really nice. Instead of taking the building over as a block... to add height of course, they could have made the pool on the south and kept the building on the northern edge.

This is a great looking project. Just hope the negotiations with the W don't go sideways like the last time the W tried to establish a home in SA.

Wow! Really cool. Just cant beat what's going on in The SATX!

An article in the San Antonio Business Journal, titled "Big Moves", states that the co-working company, Spaces, has already leased square footage in this building.:cheers::yes::tup:

Subscribe to get the full story.

Does anyone know when they will start on this project? Feels like I been waiting for a good while on this one.

Has anybody heard any updates on this one? Do we know if this is still in the works or if it was a victim of COVID?

it's a victim of Gray Street....I know that comment will rankle KingWilliam but that group has shown no semblance of putting together a smaller development. I can't imagine them getting a 20 story building completed without partnering with a more established outfit. I've heard from others that the SA Light/Connector building has been a mess.

Why would speculative hearsay rankle me? :shrug:

No one here knows the status of this development, so no one here should try and pretend they do.

I was only trying to connect some speculative dots. We can agree that their renderings look great and I'd love for them to come to fruition. Its just that I don't know if that team has the bandwidth to take on a 20 story building if they are having issues with a five story rehab with an addition.

Would love to see this one happen, hope it does.

The chain-link fence that was surrounding the perimeter for months has been taken down and the work vehicles that parked there in the empty lot are gone. It really looks like this project has been cancelled or at least put on hold.

Disappointing if true. I was looking forward to this one.

Dang it. That's the second W Hotel project to bite-the-dust in S.A.

I think that was used for parking / storage for construction of the credit human building. So, I doubt the removal has any bearing on the project. Though, seems it could have been dead already.

From Feb 2021, Pandemic derails GrayStreet Partner’s plans for Broadway East, delays W Hotel

I think this is the same spot.


GrayStreet sells Pearl-area land, site of proposed mixed-use project, to Fulcrum

https://www.expressnews.com/business...f-16406599.php

GrayStreet Partners has sold a swath of land across Broadway from the Pearl where the local firm had planned to develop a massive mixed-use community to another San Antonio-based developer.

A limited partnership linked to Fulcrum Development purchased about 14.6 acres last week from entities affiliated with GrayStreet and its executives, property records show.

It’s unclear what the firm paid for the parcels, which stretch from Broadway past North Hackberry Street and between Casa Blanca and Carson streets.

Fulcrum, a privately-held real estate company founded in 1989, has built retail and office developments in north, northwest and west San Antonio as well as Schertz. The Pearl-area site appears to be its first in the city’s center.

This is a completely separate parcel from 1603

Can you move it to the correct thread then?