wow...there is some really great info in this thread.
Those Mandela/Grand and Emerald Views Images are stunning! Go Oakland!!!! |
I have to admit, with all the action going on in San Francisco, I've been so caught up with it that I've forgotten most other areas. For this reason, I'm thankfull that time was taken to create this thread that shows projects from around the Bay Area. Mandela and Sierra Point look very intresting. With that being said: Great work, thanks for all the information and I look forward to more. :)
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I hear you about Brisbane
[QUOTE=San Frangelino;3025129]Here are some information on developments for "the Peninsula."
But all considered I don't know if we can expect much more. I see South City densifying so that is hopeful that they will move forward from surface lots at least. I hope they at least orient themselves to the Caltrain station (though its a ways away-is this the future TOD they are talking about or some sort of bus system???) if they need the big box stuff and the automall to help pay for redevelopment so be it (though they are lacking in vision it seems to me) but at least I hope they consider that if they want the future workers to take the train and patronize their little strip mall/downtown without driving they need to make the environment accommodating (though this is some distance from the existing Caltrain stop I think) When I worked at Oyster point the most frustrating thing (other than public transit) was the lack of anywhere to eat (save for the corporate cafe) or walk to. I would take a shuttle to work from Bart and then I was literally stuck |
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They are moving the station at Hillsdale in San Mateo to better match development so it is possible Its tough in the Bay Area with everything so fragmented but in a perfect world I don't see why this station couldn't move??? If Caltrain become what it could be (something akin to Bart) and we had more comprehensive planning we could plan pretty intensive development around these stations. Caltrain's corridor is a great asset that we are greatly under utilizing. With regard to the light rail being extended that seems to me to be another waste. People in Bay View and Viz Valley aren't working these jobs. Most people live on the Peninsula, come from the East Bay or live in the trendy parts of SF. If you lived near downtown would you ride the T for an hour to get to a Biotech job in Brisbane? The whole T thing sucks and is a huge waste of resources |
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I'm referring to this one:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1212/...4372b03e_o.jpg It looks like they are adding a station here. Perhaps you're right that they are actually moving a station here. I don't recall offhand where all the stations are along this part of the peninsula. You're right that the Caltrain corridor is underutilized. Part of that is because for so many years it was strictly a freight train line and cities always turn their backs on those. But it is changing, slowly but surely, in places like Redwood City and Mountain View, etc. |
A little something interesting I found at http://www.stanford.edu/group/gpj/cg...pal/?q=node/73
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For those unaware, the Marina Shores Project was approved but defeated in citywide vote 3 years ago. The projects most prominent feature would be housing in the form of 17 towers 15-23 stories tall. It was to be east of the downtown Redwood City and the freeway, but quite a ways from the Caltrain station. If you would like to download some old documents http://www.redwoodcity.org/cds/planning/ms/ Here are some old images of a model made for the project @ http://www.creatormodels.com/landplan.html To find out more about the Peninsula Park Project http://www.ci.redwood-city.ca.us/cds...ark/index.html http://www.creatormodels.com/images/landMarina_2.jpg http://www.creatormodels.com/images/landMarina_1.jpg |
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Also @ http://www.creatormodels.com/landplan.html Images of the office and Harvest Hall that are suppose to happen at Jack London Square.
http://www.creatormodels.com/images/landJack_2.jpg http://www.creatormodels.com/images/landJack_1.jpg and here is an image and rundown from http://www.portofoakland.com/realesta/deve_01i.asp http://www.portofoakland.com/realest..._deve1i_lg.jpg I believe I read in the Business Times that the Harvest Hall will now mostly be offices rather than a large market. There is a good rundown on what's happeneing there at http://www.tndwest.com/jacklondonsquare.html |
Another find from http://www.urban44.com/bart.html
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Redwood city project
as much as I am for development I really would like to see them focused around mass transit
The Harbor project will be 10o% auto dependent as will Sierra Point in Brisbane |
Yep. That's the problem I have with the Redwood City thing. Sure, it's dense. But It's totally disconnected from everything except roads. I suppose they could add ferry service, but I really don't see that happening anytime soon.
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If these Proposals from http://www.northpointdevelopment.com..._projects.html are legit then San Jose will have 3 sets of Towers to add to its stock.
From: http://www.northpointdevelopment.com..._projects.html 88 North First Street, San Jose, CA http://www.northpointdevelopment.com/north1st_1.jpg http://www.northpointdevelopment.com/north1st_3.jpg Quote:
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Delmas Tower, San Jose, CA. http://www.northpointdevelopment.com/delmasTower.gif http://www.northpointdevelopment.com/delmasTower_2.jpg Quote:
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Thanks for digging those up San Frangelino! There is so much going on around downtown SJ.
Do you happen to know if the rendering for 300 South Second is looking west on San Carlos? I hope so, as it would put the taller tower right on the corner. That last one looks like a horrible location from the satellite photo. Perhaps it's not actually as bad as it seems. But in that image it looks like they're dumping 10 story condos in the middle of a bunch of single-story, single-family, detached homes. It looks totally out of scale and character with the surrounding environment. BTW: you picked up the Second Street map URL for the Fifth Street Tower. You might want to edit that. |
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Heres an image of the area. Note: the proposed towers would be adjacent to the freeway on the street a block south of David Baker's 8 story building. http://www.dbarchitect.com/images/dy...eshow_main.jpg Quote:
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I guess we're just seeing the growing pains of densification. I didn't realize how close that location is to Diridion. It makes sense to go vertical around there. I imagine the current residents don't like it too much.
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From:http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg.../MN1SS8P0A.DTL
New A's ballpark in Fremont would be surrounded by upscale eateries, shops Carolyn Jones, Chronicle Staff Writer Wednesday, September 19, 2007 (09-18) 21:56 PDT Fremont -- At the A's proposed new ballpark in Fremont, home runs wouldn't fly into the bay or the salt flats. They'd land in your plate of spaghetti at an upscale Italian restaurant. If approved by Fremont's City Council, the $450 million Cisco Field would open in 2011 in a now-vacant lot in the city's Irvington district. It would be surrounded by high-end retail stores, restaurants overlooking the outfield, and housing for at least 3,000 people, A's officials told Fremont Tuesday night. "This is the biggest project Fremont will ever see," said Mayor Bob Wasserman. "If it's approved, it will create a pride here. It will make the city a whole place." Though finances weren't part of the discussion as the A's outlined the latest details of their 200-acre, $1.8 billion development plan to Fremont officials and residents at Fremont City Hall, the team has asserted that a new ballpark would raise millions of dollars a year in public and private revenue. On Tuesday, the A's said they would comply with city officials' request to move a proposed elementary school closer to the stadium. It had been planned for several blocks away. Cisco Field - which would be located 25 miles south of the the team's current stadium on Oakland- would seat 32,000 and be the smallest ballpark in Major League Baseball. Almost the entire outfield would be rimmed with elevated seated. That way, pedestrians, shoppers and diners walking in a mall area below could watch the game for free through windows beneath those elevated seats. The team, tentatively to be called the Athletics at Fremont - at one time it had been the Silicon Valley Athletics at Fremont - would play in a classic ballpark with plenty of bricks reminiscent of Boston's Fenway Park or AT&T Park in San Francisco, said Keith Wolff, the A's co-owner. "On game days, the ballpark will provide energy and excitement," Wolff said. "On nongame days, it will be like a sculpture or a park." The public would also be able to watch games for free from a public park just beyond center field. That park would even have its own scoreboard. The development would include 11,000 parking spaces cloaked by four- and five-story residential buildings, with more than 3,000 units in all. Most of the 60 or so Fremont residents who attended Tuesday's meeting supported the project. "Fremont, for many years, has needed something to keep people here," said Bill Rinetti, owner of Massimo's restaurant there. "People will stay here and spend their money here, and the whole city will prosper." Not everyone was thrilled with the project. Some complained that the ballpark wouldn't be close enough to BART - it's five miles from the nearest station - and that the shopping area would attract too much traffic. There were also environmental concerns. "Everyone here seems to be intoxicated with the idea of bringing a professional ball team to Fremont," said Vinton Bacon of Fremont who works for the Sierra Club. "This project brings more suburban sprawl and is inherently environmentally unfriendly." The A's plan to submit a formal development application to Fremont within four weeks, Wolff said. The A's have said they are leaving Oakland because they couldn't secure land for the expanded development the owners envisioned. "We tried to do it in Oakland. That was our first choice," Wolff said. "The officials were great, our fans are amazing. We just couldn't get the land." E-mail Carolyn Jones at carolynjones@sfchronicle.com. |
I find the whole A's staduim thing to be a shame on many levels
More bad planning |
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