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Nv_2897 Aug 22, 2018 4:30 AM

Was in downtown san diego and I saw the old office tower located in 1010 Second Avenue that had asbestos and i was surprised that it didn't get demolished it is getting a new facade and it looks much better than what it was. It is scheduled to open September 2018. Sorry I didn't get any photos of the progress but heres how it looks on google maps (April 2018) https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7157...7i16384!8i8192


Before
https://i.imgur.com/6eWI4YH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cFJRHqk.jpg

After
https://i.imgur.com/vDvqhVy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7jbQSpE.jpg

Dale Aug 22, 2018 12:27 PM

WOW! Isn't that the Wickes building ? An old SD icon.

Nv_2897 Aug 23, 2018 12:44 AM

Savina looks rather tall for being 414 feet
https://i.imgur.com/BNZY3Au.jpg

SDfan Aug 23, 2018 4:45 AM

I walked down Broadway today and snapped these pics. I don't think 1010 Second is going to be done in September lol. Also Bosa's block has two cranes now.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...822_102204.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...822_125350.jpg

JerellO Aug 24, 2018 12:10 AM

I honestly wish they could’ve preserved the look of the tower :/ we’re getting another glass tower that look like everything else being built today. The old facade has that white and gold look to it.. it’s something that we’re gonna wish we preserved later in the long run and the next generation is gonna wonder what the hell we were thinking. They don’t build towers like that anymore.. so why destroy it?

SDfan Aug 24, 2018 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerellO (Post 8291714)
I honestly wish they could’ve preserved the look of the tower :/ we’re getting another glass tower that look like everything else being built today. The old facade has that white and gold look to it.. it’s something that we’re gonna wish we preserved later in the long run and the next generation is gonna wonder what the hell we were thinking. They don’t build towers like that anymore.. so why destroy it?

Eh. Aesthetics. I think it was an ugly POS in need of a makeover. :haha:

Will O' Wisp Aug 24, 2018 5:14 AM

First rendering of the Horton Plaza redo! The new name is "The Campus at Horton"

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5b7f1e94/t...ge/750/750x422
Source: SDUT

Is that a new highrise I see? :coolugh:

Nv_2897 Aug 24, 2018 5:42 AM

Does anyone have a rendering or know what is going on at the 500 West hotel site next to emerald plaza
Credit to Google Maps 2018
https://i.imgur.com/8e232Tx.jpg
Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7157...7i16384!8i8192

JerellO Aug 24, 2018 6:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 8291753)
Eh. Aesthetics. I think it was an ugly POS in need of a makeover. :haha:

Thats what people used to say about all the historic ornamentation on older buildings back in the day before they modernized them to the plain and uninspiring POS we see today. The same can be said about this tower and turning it into another glass building.

JerellO Aug 24, 2018 6:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp (Post 8292045)
First rendering of the Horton Plaza redo! The new name is "The Campus at Horton"

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5b7f1e94/t...ge/750/750x422
Source: SDUT

Is that a new highrise I see? :coolugh:

I love that they’re finally doing something about this place, but I wish they could save at least SOME architectural details and incorporate them into the new design instead of completely gutting the entire thing. Just as a nod to what the space used to be. Maybe save the grand staircase that leads down to the plaza park?... it reminds me of the staircases I climbed in Europe (Greece and Italy).. or the Bunker Hill steps in DTLA.

HurricaneHugo Aug 24, 2018 6:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp (Post 8292045)
First rendering of the Horton Plaza redo! The new name is "The Campus at Horton"

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5b7f1e94/t...ge/750/750x422
Source: SDUT

Is that a new highrise I see? :coolugh:

Oh nice!

You gotta wonder if that site is the perfect site for an Amazon campus...

The Flying Dutchman Aug 24, 2018 10:49 AM

Anyone notice the insane timeline for this? The company plans to have tenants in by 2020. Also, everything will be torn down to the bare studs, according to the UT article.

Streamliner Aug 24, 2018 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerellO (Post 8292080)
I love that they’re finally doing something about this place, but I wish they could save at least SOME architectural details and incorporate them into the new design instead of completely gutting the entire thing. Just as a nod to what the space used to be. Maybe save the grand staircase that leads down to the plaza park?... it reminds me of the staircases I climbed in Europe (Greece and Italy).. or the Bunker Hill steps in DTLA.

While I disagree with you about 1010 Second Ave (I think it's ugly and not going to be historically or aesthetically significant), I definitely agree with you about Horton Plaza. It's a mess of a mall, outdated, and hemorrhaging money, but the architecture of the mall is very significant, IMO. It's distinctive, zany, and has a very 1980's style that's not overused.

I hope they save at least some of that central area and incorporate it into the campus, I think a little bit of this would be very much at home in a modern tech-oriented campus:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rtonPlaza2.jpg

spoonman Aug 24, 2018 6:18 PM

One could hope that if Horton Plaza is no longer used for retail, we could get more street level retail throughout downtown. It would be great if a retail district could form somewhere...not sure where...6th or 7th avenue?

eburress Aug 24, 2018 7:21 PM

I agree. I think it would be a bummer if they didn't keep at least some aspect of the former mall. It was groundbreaking in its time and was a big part of Downtown's turnaround.

eburress Aug 24, 2018 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 8292715)
One could hope that if Horton Plaza is no longer used for retail, we could get more street level retail throughout downtown. It would be great if a retail district could form somewhere...not sure where...6th or 7th avenue?

I wonder if they wouldn't orient some retail around the perimeter of the new development so it's not so walled off like it is now.

SDfan Aug 24, 2018 8:28 PM

I think there will be retail opportunities for some folks in the adjacent Gaslamp, but they're going to cater more towards tourists than anything else. I work part time in retail, and our outpost at Horton is stupidly reliant on tourists, and cruise and naval ship dockings. Locals aren't much of a factor.

SDfan Aug 24, 2018 8:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerellO (Post 8292070)
Thats what people used to say about all the historic ornamentation on older buildings back in the day before they modernized them to the plain and uninspiring POS we see today. The same can be said about this tower and turning it into another glass building.

True true, I can't deny that. Still think it was a POS. :D

spoonman Aug 24, 2018 8:44 PM

Great picture of SD from centreforaiviation.com

https://images.cdn.centreforaviation...PORT-1024x.jpg

mello Aug 24, 2018 9:19 PM

Too bad its missing Pacific Gate, Savina, Ballpark Village and then it cuts off so you can't see the Hyatt towers. Great shot though:cheers:


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