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CCF Mar 18, 2007 6:04 AM

Moose Jaw Multiplex
 
Moose Jaw is on the verge of building a new home for the Moose Jaw Warriors. Unfortunately costs have skyrocketed and has delayed the project. If they don't build it, they will lose their WHL franchise. There has been some debate of where to put it too, I'm hoping for downtown, obviously.

http://multiplex.brandingwagon.net/d...iplexlarge.jpg

http://multiplex.brandingwagon.net/d...ltiplex1sm.jpg

http://multiplex.brandingwagon.net/d...ltiplex6sm.jpg

http://multiplex.brandingwagon.net/d...x_brochim1.jpg

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 6:22 AM

estevan is building a 2000 seat arena too.....my firm is designing it...i will post an image when it is done.

CCF Mar 18, 2007 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2698840)
estevan is building a 2000 seat arena too.....my firm is designing it...i will post an image when it is done.

No attack against you, but odd that they would go out of province to choose a firm. But then again, I know nothing about trying to choose an architect. And even further, perhaps you guys are the best. :P

That's a fairly decent size rink given the size of Estevan and the level of their hockey.

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 6:39 AM

we do lots of work in saskatchewan...there arent a huge number of architects in saskatchewan, particularily for special building types where previous experience is important.

one of the nicest buildings my firm has ever done is the mendel gallery in saskatoon.....we did casino regina too a while back....a spa in moose jaw.

i think this one came about becasue they saw the arena in dauphin for the kings and they wanted the same architect.

CCF Mar 18, 2007 6:49 AM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2698864)
we do lots of work in saskatchewan...there arent a huge number of architects in saskatchewan, particularily for special building types where previous experience is important.

one of the nicest buildings my firm has ever done is the mendel gallery in saskatoon.....we did casino regina too a while back....a spa in moose jaw.

i think this one came about becasue they saw the arena in dauphin for the kings and they wanted the same architect.

I'd assume that there are enough architects given the number of projects and population?

spiritedenergy Mar 18, 2007 6:52 AM

oh my goodness Moose Jaw looks scary... Susan Sarandon was right:P

CCF Mar 18, 2007 6:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spiritedenergy (Post 2698886)
oh my goodness Moose Jaw looks scary... Susan Sarandon was right:P

Errr?

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 7:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CCF (Post 2698883)
I'd assume that there are enough architects given the number of projects and population?


nope

179 architects in saskatchewan (pop. 1m)

350 architects in manitoba (pop. 1.17m)

saskatchewan building permits jan-nov 2006: 1,067.3b
manitoba building permits jan-nov 2006: 1,281.7b

saskatchewan is under represented in the field of architecture considering the population and the amount of construction.

CCF Mar 18, 2007 7:31 AM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2698935)
179 architects in saskatchewan (pop. 1m)

350 architects in manitoba (pop. 1.17m)

Hah, that seems like a lot of architects to me.

I'd chalk it up to the fact that Manitoba has a Faculty of Architecture. Its been mentioned as a possible faculty addition at the U of R.

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 7:36 AM

naw...manitoba's proportion is about the same as the other areas of the country...saskatchewan's is low for some reason....probably the lack of a larger urban centre.

CCF Mar 18, 2007 7:38 AM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2698944)
naw...manitoba's proportion is about the same as the other areas of the country...saskatchewan's is low for some reason....probably the lack of a larger urban centre.

So then, if we have a lack of any large Urban centres, then the number of architects we have is adequate.

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 8:11 AM

yeah, ok....

CCF Mar 18, 2007 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2698970)
yeah, ok....

Anyways, thanks for coming out.

Back on track, please.

swilley Mar 18, 2007 3:21 PM

I recently attended a Warrior – Pats game at the Can. Although the old arena is a complete piece of shit, the atmosphere was outstanding. 3000 in the can kicks the crap out of any 6000+ Blade games I have been too (6000 at the CUC is less than half full). The new arena looks great btw.

Greco Roman Mar 18, 2007 3:53 PM

What would be the official seating capacity of this arena?

Andy6 Mar 18, 2007 4:47 PM

In the interest of "midwestern" bonding, I would point out that the Moose Jaw Warriors are the old Winnipeg Warriors. I see from wikipedia that the even older Winnipeg Monarchs/Clubs/Junior Jets are now the Lethbridge Hurricanes.

newflyer Mar 18, 2007 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy6 (Post 2699354)
In the interest of "midwestern" bonding, I would point out that the Moose Jaw Warriors are the old Winnipeg Warriors. I see from wikipedia that the even older Winnipeg Monarchs/Clubs/Junior Jets are now the Lethbridge Hurricanes.

Winnipeg should work harder at keeping a junior team. I think a junior team would be a great addition to the Peg City.

newflyer Mar 18, 2007 5:40 PM

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Moose Jaw is on the verge of building a new home for the Moose Jaw Warriors. Unfortunately costs have skyrocketed and has delayed the project. If they don't build it, they will lose their WHL franchise. There has been some debate of where to put it too, I'm hoping for downtown, obviously.
Wasn't there a big fire in downtown Moose Jaw a couple years ago??

Is there a possibility of the new arena filling in that gap .. or is that land spoken for?

newflyer Mar 18, 2007 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2698864)
we do lots of work in saskatchewan...there arent a huge number of architects in saskatchewan, particularily for special building types where previous experience is important.

one of the nicest buildings my firm has ever done is the mendel gallery in saskatoon.....we did casino regina too a while back....a spa in moose jaw.

i think this one came about becasue they saw the arena in dauphin for the kings and they wanted the same architect.

You designed the Moose Jaw Spa!!???

Holy Crap!!! .. do you know you are a GOD in Moose Jaw? :worship: That is the biggest thing in Moose Jaw since sliced bread. :yes:

CCF Mar 18, 2007 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by newflyer (Post 2699418)
Wasn't there a big fire in downtown Moose Jaw a couple years ago??

Is there a possibility of the new arena filling in that gap .. or is that land spoken for?

Only a few buildings burnt down. The lots are fairly small, nothing that could fit this project. They actually want to put it west of Main Street. The east side has seen some positive developments i.e. Casino, Spa, etc. Whereas the West side, not so much.

flatlander Mar 18, 2007 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CCF (Post 2698971)
Anyways, thanks for coming out.

Back on track, please.

Ouch. That was a little harsh.

raggedy13 Mar 18, 2007 8:33 PM

Looks like a nice facility. Perhaps I overlooked this, but what is the planned capacity? And is that a running track around the seating?! I've never seen such a thing. Does anybody know of any examples of other sports facilities that incorporate such a feature?

http://multiplex.brandingwagon.net/d...ltiplex1sm.jpg

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by raggedy13 (Post 2699774)
And is that a running track around the seating?! I've never seen such a thing. Does anybody know of any examples of other sports facilities that incorporate such a feature?

its a pretty common feature these days...dauphin arena has one...estevan will have one....as well as another i cant really talk about in winnipeg.

small towns like it because it is a good feature to sell to community groups like seniors..makes it easier to fund raise.

SHOFEAR Mar 18, 2007 9:57 PM

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Looks like a nice facility. Perhaps I overlooked this, but what is the planned capacity? And is that a running track around the seating?! I've never seen such a thing. Does anybody know of any examples of other sports facilities that incorporate such a feature?
Clare Drake in Edmonton has a track like that.

raggedy13 Mar 18, 2007 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by trueviking (Post 2699958)
its a pretty common feature these days...dauphin arena has one...estevan will have one....as well as another i cant really talk about in winnipeg.

small towns like it because it is a good feature to sell to community groups like seniors..makes it easier to fund raise.

Interesting, thanks. I wonder if there are any around the Vancouver metro like that...

swilley Mar 18, 2007 11:26 PM

The new physical activities complex (PAC) on the U of S campus is like that, only below is basketball courts.

ReginaGuy Mar 18, 2007 11:43 PM

same with the new kinesiology centre at the U of R

trueviking Mar 18, 2007 11:45 PM

it is a bit of a tough one though, because arenas like to be cold and running tracks...especially ones that are often walking tracks for seniors like to be warm...it can be a real challenge mechanically.

CCF Mar 20, 2007 5:18 PM

Moose Jaw city council is banking on some money coming from the federal government, after yesterday's budget announcement. We'll find out in a few days.

richmond Mar 21, 2007 3:48 AM

Crushed Can
 
Would it be rude to point out that although rundown, the crushed can is a nationally recognized hockey rink designed by SK architect Joe Pettick & one of the few projects in the province to win a Governors General Award? A building of it's time & spirit. No offense to the crew at Number 10 in Winnipeg since I quite like the plan (esp the inclusion of the track) but I find the quasi historical facades to be blah.

rousseau Mar 21, 2007 4:20 AM

Moose Jaw Multiplex would be a great name for a band.

CCF Mar 21, 2007 4:58 AM

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Originally Posted by richmond (Post 2705932)
Would it be rude to point out that although rundown, the crushed can is a nationally recognized hockey rink designed by SK architect Joe Pettick & one of the few projects in the province to win a Governors General Award? A building of it's time & spirit. No offense to the crew at Number 10 in Winnipeg since I quite like the plan (esp the inclusion of the track) but I find the quasi historical facades to be blah.

The architect for the new Multiplex is Saunders Evans Architects of Regina.

Moose Jaw doesn't have much of a choice though. Either they build or lose their team and have to cheer for Regina. And let me tell you, that wouldn't go over well....both parts.

trueviking Mar 21, 2007 5:10 AM

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Originally Posted by richmond (Post 2705932)
I find the quasi historical facades to be blah.


yeah, it isnt #10, but i agree...it looks like an american college arena....they always do the red brick arena thing, with the light brick around arched windows....

http://flightops.aero.und.edu/images/rea1024.jpg

CCF Mar 21, 2007 5:16 AM

The design will fit in perfectly with the area though. MJ has preserved all of their old brick buildings. A large percentage of buildings downtown is that colour of brick.

richmond Mar 22, 2007 3:13 AM

Don't get me wrong, I think the crushed can has served it's time & new hockey economics demand a new rink ... just wished it looked "new". Let the old buildings look old & do your best to preserve them but let the new stuff look of their time. I think it just makes for a rich urban fabric.

I thought someone earlier mentioned that the design came out of Winnipeg & that they designed the Mendel in Saskatoon? Am I mistaken?

CCF Mar 22, 2007 4:01 AM

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Originally Posted by richmond (Post 2708572)
Don't get me wrong, I think the crushed can has served it's time & new hockey economics demand a new rink ... just wished it looked "new". Let the old buildings look old & do your best to preserve them but let the new stuff look of their time. I think it just makes for a rich urban fabric.

I thought someone earlier mentioned that the design came out of Winnipeg & that they designed the Mendel in Saskatoon? Am I mistaken?

Apparently that was the MJ spa.

richmond Mar 22, 2007 9:27 PM

I've got my rinks wrong ... he was referring to a new one in Estevan.

Tower Crane Mar 23, 2007 8:07 PM

Running Tracks in Arena's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raggedy13 (Post 2699774)
Looks like a nice facility. Perhaps I overlooked this, but what is the planned capacity? And is that a running track around the seating?! I've never seen such a thing. Does anybody know of any examples of other sports facilities that incorporate such a feature?

http://multiplex.brandingwagon.net/d...ltiplex1sm.jpg

We are currently constructing a new Arena Complex for Camrose Alberta's Junior Hockey Team the Camrose Kodiaks. It has a 3 lane running track around it also. Seating 2,500 plus, Upper deck seating, Skyboxes to Rexall Place standards, lounge that over looks the main arena in this building, fitness room, NHL sized change rooms and workout rooms, etc. This place has it all. Watch for it's opening this August 2007.
See City of Camrose Website for details and updates.

You Need A Thneed Mar 24, 2007 1:31 AM

A historical Facade would look good in downtown Moose Jaw. It might as well build on what it has, a hertiage of old buildings and other history.

Greco Roman Mar 29, 2007 4:02 AM

At the risk of repeating myself, what is the seating capacity of this new complex?

ReginaGuy Mar 29, 2007 4:05 AM

Not too sure, probably around 2,000-3,000 though

CCF Mar 29, 2007 4:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ReginaGuy (Post 2726852)
Not too sure, probably around 2,000-3,000 though

I'd think it might be bigger than that. The current civic centre is close to 3200. I'd assume it'd be at least that if not somewhat bigger.

BrannyMuffin Mar 29, 2007 4:39 AM

Moose Jaw is a great little city. I used to love going there to visit my grandma when I was little. I especially loved the hills! haha The city really needs the multiplex, though. That team is very important to the city, and the multiplex would be a huge boost to the economy.

babo Apr 6, 2007 6:21 AM

Spent the last couple of days in Moose Jaw and it's like stepping back in time. Lots of great "old" buildings lining and "radiating" from an actual busy main street. Lots of great photo opportunities. I will definitely make a point of driving out there again in the summer.

Does anyone know what's happening to the Walter Scott Building on the north-east corner of Main Street and High Street? It looked like every floor but the main is vacant.

newflyer Apr 8, 2007 6:50 PM

It reminds me a little of a mini- Nationwide Arena.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8...ionwideju1.jpg

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2...exlargezi7.jpg


I think it would be a great additon to downtown Moose Jaw.

CCF Jun 12, 2007 2:20 AM

In other news, the downtown lots which were the victim of a fire a number of years ago now have a For Sale sign. Good to see.

CCF Jun 12, 2007 2:36 AM

http://www.mjtimes.sk.ca/index.cfm?sid=32323&sc=3

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BMO to build new bank branch Breaking News Post a comment print this article

RON WALTER
The Moose Jaw Times Herald

The Bank of Montreal announced a new bank for downtown Moose Jaw, located on Manitoba Street East.
The investment of $1.4 million includes the city’s first drive-through automated teller.
The new location, with a 6,500 square foot building on the city’s second-busiest street, will be convenient for customers and staff, said Tafaline Sakundiak, a BMO area manager from Regina.
Construction will start as soon as the landlord transfers the property to the bank, with opening expected in early 2008.
The main branch on High Street will be sold.

Stephen LaRose Apr 12, 2008 1:08 AM

Considering that the Western Hockey League is telling the Warriors that it's time either build a new arena or move the franchise to somewhere that will, let's ask the $64 million question: what's happening to the arena project?

JayM Apr 12, 2008 7:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CCF (Post 2891315)

are u kidding me? there are no drive thru atm's in moose jaw. yeah bank of montreal will be opening a new branch in the cornerstone shopping district in pa.


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