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HurricaneHugo Mar 16, 2007 9:17 PM

That CV tower is ugly.

And what happened to all the updates on the projects?

I havent' been able to go downtown to check cuz im been studying for my finals next week. :(

Derek Mar 17, 2007 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 2694699)
You bring up a good point. Maybe it's not too late for talks to begin.

God, i hope not:(

keg92101 Mar 17, 2007 4:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bmfarley (Post 2693857)
It's not white, but who was the one that said it must be? I know I am down in the East Village all the time...that's where I work. That is the only new crane I am familiar with.

Btw, the below project may be starting??? I cannot tell. Definately some earth work going on, but it seems like it is only on one part of the block whereas it seems like it it suppose to be the whole block.

15th & Island
http://www.ccdc.com/index.cfm?fuseac...propertyID=586
http://www.ccdc.com/images/propertyImages/Pinnacle.jpg

If you look on the site, the 1 story building, which will be a cafe/grille for the park, is just about finished out as the pinnacle sales office. I think they are going to try to get this off the ground, pending sales, by years end. The DDA states that the park has to be completed by either the end of 2007 or the end of 2008, and I believe the project will extend the underground garage under a portion of the park.

keg92101 Mar 17, 2007 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 2694689)
Thanks for posting, ucsbgaucho! It's no wonder the officials at the SD Convention Center to the north are worried about this project happening. While it's location isn't as good as theirs, it will have all of the amenities to give it some tough competiion.

This will be great for CV and the rest of the South Bay. Perhaps it, along with a possible new Chargers Stadium, will help jumpstart a boom along the 5 corridor, south of downtown. :yes:

I'm glad they went with a single tower (300 feet) instead of 3 low rise buildings they originally proposed. I also think the design is more interesting than the new Hilton going up downtown.

Here's another pic that wasn't posted:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...I1100692_1.jpg

This will not be any competion for San Diego's CC. This will merely serve as overflow as to what the SDCC cannot book due to its surplus of conventions. The SDCC has the gaslamp, CV has nothing.

Derek Mar 17, 2007 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keg92101 (Post 2697168)
This will not be any competion for San Diego's CC. This will merely serve as overflow as to what the SDCC cannot book due to its surplus of conventions. The SDCC has the gaslamp, CV has nothing.

which is why they should just consider the Chargers Stadium for that site;)

Derek Mar 17, 2007 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg92101 (Post 2697165)
If you look on the site, the 1 story building, which will be a cafe/grille for the park, is just about finished out as the pinnacle sales office. I think they are going to try to get this off the ground, pending sales, by years end. The DDA states that the park has to be completed by either the end of 2007 or the end of 2008, and I believe the project will extend the underground garage under a portion of the park.

thats good :)

Urban Sky Mar 17, 2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2697205)
which is why they should just consider the Chargers Stadium for that site;)

haha was that one of the options?

Derek Mar 18, 2007 1:46 AM

^no...but it should be ;)

Derek Mar 18, 2007 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ucsbgaucho (Post 2694488)

think about it...thats downtown in the background of this pic...that would be such a nice backdrop for a stadium would it not? plus its on the water:)

keg92101 Mar 18, 2007 5:47 PM

East Village Haps
 
Hey,

I started a new blog on neighborhood hapennings in the East Village. This relates more to busines and real estate informartion, rather than construction progress.


http://eastvillagesandiego.blogspot.com/

Urban Sky Mar 18, 2007 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2698671)
think about it...thats downtown in the background of this pic...that would be such a nice backdrop for a stadium would it not? plus its on the water:)

yeah, that would be nice...doubt its gonna happen though

OCtoSD Mar 18, 2007 8:29 PM

Looks like Cosmo will get of the ground
 
Was reading the details and was happy to see that it looks like we will see a start on cosmo:yes:

Located in downtown San Diego's East Village neighborhood.

Full block bounded by J Street and Island, 7th and 8th avenues

Simplon Corporation plans to construct a mixed-use project with 290 condominiums, 12,500 square feet of retail space, and 17,100 square feet of office space on the block bounded by J Street, 7th, 8th and Island avenues. The project will encompass the entire block and include the expansion of the existing Fire Station #4 facilities. The project is scheduled to start in Spring 2007, with a fall 2009 completion targeted.

OCtoSD Mar 18, 2007 8:33 PM

Strata has a new timeline as well, a little later but better than nothing

Located in downtown San Diego's East Village neighborhood.

Intracorp plans to develop a 236-unit condominium project with 12,100 square feet of retail space on the southwest corner of 10th Avenue and Market Street. Construction is scheduled to begin in spring 2008, with a winter 2009 completion.

OCtoSD Mar 18, 2007 8:41 PM

Couple more positive construction timeline updates
 
Library Tower also has a timeline update, suprised this one is going forward without the library

Located in downtown San Diego's East Village neighborhood.

Centurion Partners and Avion Development plan to build a 43-story mixed-use project on the northeast corner of Park Boulevard and K Street. The project will include 168 condominiums, 187 parking spaces and approximately 14,000 square feet of retail space. Construction is scheduled to begin in late 2007 with completion anticipated in early 2010.

Here is 15th and Island's details also with an update having them starting this year

Located in downtown San Diego's East Village neighborhood.

Pinnacle Development will be developing a mixed-use project consisting of approximately 620 condominium units, 20,000 square feet of commercial space, and 800 parking spaces in three levels of underground parking on an approximately 120,000 square foot "super-block" site bounded by Island Avenue and 14th, 15th, and J Streets. The development would create an approximately 57,000 square foot public park on the west half of the site, with the east half of the site being developed with two condominium towers of 31- and 39-stories (approximately 370 and 430 feet tall, respectively) above a 4-6 story base (45-80 feet tall). Construction is anticipated to commence in early 2007 and be completed in mid-2009.:)

OCtoSD Mar 18, 2007 8:42 PM

How much weight would you guys give to these timelines. Looks like 15th and Island is not a joke since they're finishing up the sales office.

Derek Mar 18, 2007 9:01 PM

as long as some progress is being made on any of these projects, i dont care how long it takes...i just want to see these things rising ;)

bmfarley Mar 18, 2007 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2699840)
as long as some progress is being made on any of these projects, i dont care how long it takes...i just want to see these things rising ;)

Because the housing market is slowing down and will be that way for a while, I suspect we'll see fewer proposals until things strengthen.

Concerning proposals in the pipeline... the developers may not be that exposed to the vulnerabilities assuming they purchased the properties a few years ago when land costs were much lower. Also, with fewer development moving forward construction costs should be tempered... I would think? And additionally, many of these developments will not be completed for about 2 years... especially the larger ones like Library Tower. In 2 years the market could have bottomed out by then and buyers could be returning.

With everything said, if I were a developer of a tower... I'd tend to want to watch and see what the market is doing before deciding to build. I remember reading an article in the Voice that said something along the lines that the cost of planning and building a tower, and the return based on the market for units, yeilded a 20% or so return. If the market softens... that 20% return could be nominal.

By the way, I tend not to believe in those construction timelines. When they start... I'll believe it.

Derek Mar 18, 2007 10:56 PM

OCtoSD...where did you find that information? its juicy:)

spoonman Mar 18, 2007 10:56 PM

I started a bunch of new threads under the "highrise construction" forum.
I started ones for:

Electra - 43 Floors
One Library Circle (Library Tower) - 43 Floors
Vantage Point -4o Floors
15th & Island - 31 & 39 Floors
Bayside at the Embarcadero - 36 Floors
Sapphire Tower - 32 Floors

Could someone please post pics of the projects under construction!!!!!!! Especially the ones like 15th and Island that are just getting a start with the new sales office and cafe being completed.

OCtoSD Mar 19, 2007 12:31 AM

I got all of that information off of the ccdc website. If you go to all projects on the left hand side, or to the interactive map and click on individual projects you can get the blurbs. What I posted was the blurbs for the projects that are suppost to have starts in 2007 and one 2008. Below is the link to the project list. And below that is a blurb for a bosa project with an 07 start that I had not yet seen.


http://www.ccdc.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/projects.home

15 and Island
Located in downtown San Diego's Marina neighborhood.

Block bounded by First and Second avenues and Island and J streets

Bosa Development is proposing to construct a 38-story, mixed-use project consisting of 172 condominiums, 23,000 sf of retail space and 435 parking spaces on the block bounded by First and Second avenues and Island and J streets. The project would convert the existing J Street parking lot into a public plaza. Construction is anticipated to begin in late 2007 with completion targeted for spring 2010.


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