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Derek May 17, 2007 1:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 2839880)
Ok, so let's not all get too excited about this, but I just saw this bit article from the online edition of the SD Daily Transcript. What could this be? New tallest? With the airport still there?

http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm...de=20070516cxa



Company purchases land, proposes plans for tallest project in downtown San Diego

By THOR KAMBAN BIBERMAN, The Daily Transcript
Wednesday, May 16, 2007

A mixed-use development at 1270 Columbia St. in downtown San Diego is being planned for a local record-size 47-story tower with hotel and residential components, as well as a possible timeshare.


That's cool! But a building can be 47 stories and still be under 500 feet.

sandiego_urban May 17, 2007 1:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mongoXZ (Post 2839948)
Isn't this the land where the cancelled Elle tower was supposed to be? And wasn't there a rendering called "Columbia Tower" posted earlier from the CW Kim website? That white one??????

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, although the Kim website says it's 45 stories. I guess it could have been re-designed (We hope)


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Originally Posted by Derek loves SD
That's cool! But a building can be 47 stories and still be under 500 feet.

That might be true, but read the headline again. It says "......proposes plans for tallest project in downtown San Diego"

eburress May 17, 2007 1:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2839949)
That's cool! But a building can be 47 stories and still be under 500 feet.

How tall is the current tallest?

sandiego_urban May 17, 2007 1:54 AM

^^ One America Plaza at 500 feet

sandiego_urban May 17, 2007 2:05 AM

FYI - Here is a list of the 20 tallest buildings downtown (completed/approved/proposed) from Emporis. It's not up-to-date, but it gives you some general info:


San Diego High-rise Buildings

# Building Name Height Floors Year Status
1. One America Plaza 500 ft 34 1991 completed
2. Symphony Towers 499 ft 34 1989 completed
3. Manchester Grand Hyatt 497 ft 40 1992 completed
4. Library Tower 478 ft 43 2008 approved
5. Cosmopolitan Square 2 478 ft 36 2008 approved
6. Electra 2 475 ft 43 2007 under construction
7. The Pinnacle Museum Tower 15 450 ft 36 2005 completed
8. Emerald Plaza [Emerald Plaza Center] 17 450 ft 30 1990 completed
9. Manchester Grand Hyatt.. [Manchester Grand Hyatt..] 32 446 ft 34 2003 completed
10. One Santa Fe Place [Santa Fe Place] 1 440 ft 26 approved
11. Pacific Highway @ E [Pacific Highway @ E] 425 ft 37 2009 approved
12. Harbor Club West [Harbor Club Condominiu..] 26 424 ft 41 1992 completed
13. Harbor Club East [Harbor Club Condominiu..] 23 424 ft 41 1992 completed
14. Vantage Pointe Condominium 1 420 ft 41 2008 under construction
15. The Grande North at Sa.. [Grande at Santa Fe Pla..] 3 420 ft 39 2005 completed
16. The Grande South at Sa.. [Grande at Santa Fe Pla..] 21 420 ft 39 2004 completed
17. Advanced Equities Plaza 7 412 ft 23 2005 completed
18. Mondrian 411 ft 42 2008 proposed
19. Bayside at the Embarcadero 1 395 ft 36 2009 under construction
20. Union Bank of California Building 16 388 ft 27 1969 completed

SDDTProspector May 17, 2007 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OCtoSD (Post 2839867)
The renderings of the 13 story building look great. It just looks weired next to the tacky ballpark self storage. That thing will hopefully get redeveloped soon. Its land is worth millions.

I know for a fact that Oliver Mcmillan is working on a proposal now to turn that storage unit into a hotel that is approx the height as the Office tower. Even though the storage unit make them a boat load of money!!!!!

eburress May 17, 2007 2:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 2840015)
^^ One America Plaza at 500 feet

So then the proposed tower would have to be at least 501 feet ;)

OCtoSD May 17, 2007 2:24 AM

Awesome, I'm glad that self storage will go. Btw how do you get your info?

Derek May 17, 2007 2:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SDDTProspector (Post 2840030)
I know for a fact that Oliver Mcmillan is working on a proposal now to turn that storage unit into a hotel that is approx the height as the Office tower. Even though the storage unit make them a boat load of money!!!!!

Thats great. I mean, the storage unit is white and bright green, c'mon now.:rolleyes:

Derek May 17, 2007 2:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 2839978)
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, although the Kim website says it's 45 stories. I guess it could have been re-designed (We hope)



That might be true, but read the headline again. It says "......proposes plans for tallest project in downtown San Diego"

That's true. I was just thinking that developers tend to say that buildings are taller based on floor count. I honestly don't think a 500 foot tower could go on that location though, because of its proximity to the flight path for Lindbergh Field.

SDDTProspector May 17, 2007 3:20 AM

47 story hotel......
 
They have a Crappy picture of the project.... And it looks taller then 500ft, some of their other projects are down right ugly!!!!

http://www.chhatrala.com/developments.htm

Hopefully... their webpage will provide more information later.

keg92101 May 17, 2007 3:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bmfarley (Post 2839292)
I've never heard of it being from a local law. I always heard it was an FAA thing because of Lindbergh.

You are correct. If you read the Center City PDO, there are no height restrictions, other than areas around parks

keg92101 May 17, 2007 3:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OCtoSD (Post 2839867)
The renderings of the 13 story building look great. It just looks weired next to the tacky ballpark self storage. That thing will hopefully get redeveloped soon. Its land is worth millions.

The owner of Ballpark Storage is OliverMcMillan, and it makes more money for them than their apartment buildings. That is not going anywhere.

SDDTProspector May 17, 2007 4:22 AM

Re: Ballpark Storage
 
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Originally Posted by keg92101 (Post 2840188)
The owner of Ballpark Storage is OliverMcMillan, and it makes more money for them than their apartment buildings. That is not going anywhere.

We will see what happens in 6 months to a year from now.....:rolleyes:

You are correct OM makes a assload of money... It has been 95% occupied for the past 5 years... But changes will happening there!!!

I can't devolge much information.... But sources tells me that OM and ENDEV have been talking about various projects including that Ballpark Storage for development... Of course, talking and doing are two different thing!!!!

Derek May 17, 2007 5:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SDDTProspector (Post 2840161)
They have a Crappy picture of the project.... And it looks taller then 500ft, some of their other projects are down right ugly!!!!

http://www.chhatrala.com/developments.htm

Hopefully... their webpage will provide more information later.

It looks decent, the crown could maybe be re-worked though.

OCtoSD May 17, 2007 6:38 AM

You guys should look at the link for the 47 story hotel/condo development. There is a project in India that joins two towers with a big fake diamond. It's hilarious. :jester: Some are small pleasant hotels nothing more then a 100 rooms. I do not know how much we can depend on these guys. Going from doing a 5 story 100 room Holiday In in Oceanside to doing a 47 story luxury hotel condo is a big leap.

spoonman May 17, 2007 7:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 2839880)
Ok, so let's not all get too excited about this, but I just saw this bit article from the online edition of the SD Daily Transcript. What could this be? New tallest? With the airport still there?

http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm...de=20070516cxa



Company purchases land, proposes plans for tallest project in downtown San Diego

By THOR KAMBAN BIBERMAN, The Daily Transcript
Wednesday, May 16, 2007

A mixed-use development at 1270 Columbia St. in downtown San Diego is being planned for a local record-size 47-story tower with hotel and residential components, as well as a possible timeshare.


Here is the rendering of the proposed 47 Floor building...
http://www.sddt.com/images/news/2007...0_columbia.jpg

spoonman May 17, 2007 7:59 AM

^OCtoSD, I think that you are right about not depending on these guys too much. As far as the looks of the tower, it doesn't make me feel anything either way, but I wouldn't really care how it looks if we got a building over 500' built because it could open the way for more buildings over 500' which is really what's important.

Derek May 17, 2007 8:04 AM

^Good point.

HurricaneHugo May 17, 2007 10:04 AM

i dunno how to feel about this....

i think by tallest they just mean the one with the most floors, not actual height


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