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dl3000 Jan 24, 2015 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 6887701)
"FAA's initial findings of proposed Discovery Point Ferris Wheel-- presumed hazard to air navigation"

http://twitdoc.com/view.asp?id=17414...MfhWhbHShlaCPe

This follows why we can't have stepped or case by case height limits. The runway is basically sunk in a box with 3 sides (Point Loma, Mission Hills, and Bankers Hill), the open side being the Bay...and downtown. Just speculating but I think for that reason in any emergency situations, that's really the only way planes can go, and that is probably why the limit is so strictly enforced on downtown.

Leo the Dog Jan 24, 2015 5:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 6887701)
"FAA's initial findings of proposed Discovery Point Ferris Wheel-- presumed hazard to air navigation"

http://twitdoc.com/view.asp?id=17414...MfhWhbHShlaCPe

Yeah I saw this on Fox 5 news last night.

It was under the 500ft height limit. The FAA recommends something around 280 ft at this location. how did that parking garage on Laurel ever get approved!?

PadreHomer Jan 24, 2015 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6882537)
I am guessing that you are talking about the Ballpark Village development. They should be breaking ground on it before too long. Is it across the street from petco? Here is a render.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7459/...da80ff4e_c.jpg
Ballpark Village by tylerfagan, on Flickr

They've got the triangle lot fenced off and they are breaking up the parking lot.

metrocity567 Jan 24, 2015 7:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PadreHomer (Post 6888054)
They've got the triangle lot fenced off and they are breaking up the parking lot.

Looking forward to see this built in San Diego in the future.

spoonman Jan 24, 2015 8:24 PM

The FAA is why we can't have nice things.

Actually it is our reluctance to change the airport to a less foolish location

SDCAL Jan 24, 2015 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo the Dog (Post 6888041)
Yeah I saw this on Fox 5 news last night.

It was under the 500ft height limit. The FAA recommends something around 280 ft at this location. how did that parking garage on Laurel ever get approved!?

So my question is how far does this "emergency flight path" go? It obviously includes the north waterfront, but what about East Village? Is ballpark village still under this "flight path"? Obviously nobody wants to build super-talls if they present a safety problem, but it seems like SD's blanket 500 ft "rule" encompasses are larger swath of downtown than necessary. When it was first enacted, downtown's skyscrapers were concentrated around the financial center/one America Plaza area. Now that we are expanding east and building highrises like 15th and island are still abiding by this height limit, does that mean it includes all of downtown? Where does it end?

Leo the Dog Jan 25, 2015 3:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 6888285)
So my question is how far does this "emergency flight path" go? It obviously includes the north waterfront, but what about East Village? Is ballpark village still under this "flight path"? Obviously nobody wants to build super-talls if they present a safety problem, but it seems like SD's blanket 500 ft "rule" encompasses are larger swath of downtown than necessary. When it was first enacted, downtown's skyscrapers were concentrated around the financial center/one America Plaza area. Now that we are expanding east and building highrises like 15th and island are still abiding by this height limit, does that mean it includes all of downtown? Where does it end?

I agree. The East Village seems like it should be granted higher height limits.

Has anyone ever flown into Laguardia or Logan? I feel like Boston and NY have many more obstacles than SD.

tyleraf Jan 25, 2015 4:28 AM

Our problem is that we have antiquated policies and no one who cares enough to challenge them.

mello Jan 25, 2015 5:02 AM

Kind of off topic but just drove around TJ today mostly Zona Rio and then past the big Caliente Casino and up in to the hills. It almost feels like a mini West LA in this strip with a linear layout of midrises and a couple long boulevards packed full of tall shopping centers. Then with the big hills that are steep and covered in homes looming just to the south it has a very cool vibe. Some of the new midrises that have gone up in the last few years are decent. Of course it is not a very pedestrian friendly place at least the areas I saw today.

I did go up to the top of the hills and it was a really clear day, jaw dropping views! Border wait was 1hr. 5 minutes even though the line was not long at all it was just verrrry slow moving. Ate at Tacos Kokopelli. Just wanted to update you guys because I know TJ is never really discussed here.

HurricaneHugo Jan 25, 2015 10:46 AM

No pics?

PadreHomer Jan 27, 2015 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by metrocity567 (Post 6888152)
Looking forward to see this built in San Diego in the future.

On second thought, they may just be breaking up the lot for something related to the monster jam and motocross. Stay tuned.

ScottSD Jan 27, 2015 2:38 AM

I took this photo of 15th & Island on my way home from work today. I thought the sky looked pretty cool after a quick rain.

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7347/3jiM99.jpg

Here is a picture of the lot on 14th & Imperial which will soon be home to the new indoor skydiving business and low income housing project. They delivered and setup the crane last week.

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/1423/MlZZ9D.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2130/KIBsXj.jpg/

Also I believe the construction going on at Ballpark Village has to do with remediation of the site. They've been digging up dirt and then backfilling it for the last couple of weeks. Once they remove the Ace Parking signs (it's still an active paid parking lot), construction will follow soon after.

tyleraf Jan 27, 2015 9:21 PM

Ok, the port of San Diego is AMAZING! Roger Showley wasn't lying! http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2015/ja...n-consultants/

psychotron Jan 27, 2015 9:55 PM

WHOA. First step is to dream big. I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Port. Let's hope they keep their foot on the gas and make as much of this happen. Love this quote!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Morton
It might cost billions. It should produce trillions.


ScottSD Jan 27, 2015 11:14 PM

Photos
 
Marriott Hall demolition pictures.

https://www.portofsandiego.org/san-d...is-marina.html

http://imageshack.com/a/img633/1872/ULehYp.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img910/6670/JeTZMS.jpg

Bertrice Jan 28, 2015 4:28 AM

http://www.10news.com/news/horton-pl...n-now-underway


http://media.10news.com/photo/2015/0....0_640_480.jpg

horton plaza update

SDfan Jan 28, 2015 6:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6891869)
Ok, the port of San Diego is AMAZING! Roger Showley wasn't lying! http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2015/ja...n-consultants/

Oh my gawd. This is going nowhere. Ha! They can't even get a 4 story hotel approved on shelter island, let alone 18 high-rises. I like how the caption under the second slide casually suggests the height limit would have to be lifted, as if on a whim the feds would ease up on their regulations. What bull. I hope they didn't pay these consultants too much for this nonsense. This whole document is screaming for CEQA/referendum/Briggs NIMBYs.

More realistic plan: another 35 years to finish the second phase of NEVP, maybe some mid-rises in CV, and some flood lights on the bridge. Lololololololz

#sandiego #pathetic

eburress Jan 28, 2015 6:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 6892602)
Oh my gawd. This is going nowhere. Ha! They can't even get a 4 story hotel approved on shelter island, let alone 18 high-rises. I like how the caption under the second slide casually suggests the height limit would have to be lifted, as if on a whim the feds would ease up on their regulations. What bull. I hope they didn't pay these consultants too much for this nonsense. This whole document is screaming for CEQA/referendum/Briggs NIMBYs.

More realistic plan: another 35 years to finish the second phase of NEVP, maybe some mid-rises in CV, and some flood lights on the bridge. Lololololololz

#sandiego #pathetic

What a silly presentation. I would like to see America's most mismanaged city pull any of that off.

Derek Jan 28, 2015 8:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottSD (Post 6890841)
I took this photo of 15th & Island on my way home from work today. I thought the sky looked pretty cool after a quick rain.

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7347/3jiM99.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img538/2130/KIBsXj.jpg/


Wow that looks awesome! It certainly stands out in that area.

tyleraf Jan 28, 2015 11:50 PM

Horton plaza park has a webcam. http://oxblue.com/open/civicsandiego/hortonplaza


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