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Derek Apr 2, 2007 4:58 AM

it looks good...i like the towers...but im not a fan of elevated parks...but thats just me :)

eburress Apr 2, 2007 5:10 AM

Nice mockups. There are accessibility issues with elevated parks, but yours look cool at least. :)

sandiego_urban Apr 2, 2007 7:14 AM

Nice job, crackerstick!

Do you have any pics of developments that have elevated parks? The only one I've seen is at the Bank of America tower on B St. and I never see people using it. Great detail with the pedestrian bridge :tup:



Some downtown gossip - A friend that lives downtown told me that Strata is resubmitting plans to rise to 26 floors, instead of 23. As a neighbor of the project, he gets notices on everything going on in the neighborhood. We shall see....

sandiego_urban Apr 2, 2007 7:44 AM

Just some random downtown shots from today -


People out enjoying the day
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7694.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7703.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7693.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7715.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7719.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7725.jpg

Who doesn't like Fred's once in awhile?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7724.jpg

MILF alert
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7717.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7723.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7691.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7752.jpg


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7721.jpg

Old buildings being re-born again
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7736.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7735.jpg

The Ivy Hotel - looks like the entire roof will be a rooftop bar/club. This will probably be the "It" place when it opens.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7731.jpg

Samuel Fox Building has some nice detail
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7734.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7740.jpg

Construction Pics -

The Diegan
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7728.jpg

Southblock Lofts
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7733.jpg

Alta
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7685.jpg

The Mark
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7687.jpg

That's all for now!

HurricaneHugo Apr 2, 2007 8:13 AM

is the diegan topped out?

Derek Apr 2, 2007 2:27 PM

^i dont think so, i think it has a few floors (2 or 3) to go, but they have been working on that thing like crazy the past week or so...

Derek Apr 2, 2007 2:29 PM

nice pics sandiego_urban:tup:

Mark is looking great as well:)

Crackertastik Apr 2, 2007 5:08 PM

I think the problem with elevated parks having accesiblity issues is fixable. Just establish many entrance and exit points. If all of lane field had an elevated park, with grand staircase like structures onto the roof top park ( 2 on the west and east, and the smaller central staircases, accesibility wouldn't be an issue. If the design were one to create a flow of traffic into the park it wouldnt be an issue either. I think most parks on rooftops are very exclusive, like a pool attached to a residential tower. I think if it were trully public space, it would rock!

Its an idea worth exploring for sure, and would be a very iconic type of idea. I mean how many LARGE elevated parks are there. People would say, "Look at San Diego, they managed to encorporate large areas of public open space, and still found room height or development"

BrandonJXN Apr 2, 2007 5:47 PM

Downtown LA can take some ideas from downtown San Diego. Look at all the street life...

sandiegodweller Apr 2, 2007 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThreeHundred (Post 2737165)
Downtown LA can take some ideas from downtown San Diego. Look at all the street life...

Good point. I was at the Laker game yesterday. It was the first time I had been to Staples in about 2 years. I was impressed by all of the projects under construction but I had to wonder why people will want to live there. There is really not much to do in the immediate area.

I realize that this may change over time (several years) but it is difficult to create a viable street scene by just building some mid-rises.

sandiegodweller Apr 2, 2007 6:04 PM

40+ stories
 
I see a lot of people pushing for higher buildings (taller than 40+ stories) in downtown. I am sure that this has been addressed somewhere on this site but the limiting factor for most of downtown San Diego is the groundwater table. You can't dig very far down (for parking) without hitting groundwater. The cost of having a pump system and waterproofing to keep the lower floors dry is prohibitive.

Crackertastik Apr 2, 2007 6:52 PM

other coastal cities seem to get by just fine dont they with this prohibitive cost? is san diego unique in this problem?

new york, chicago, miami, etc. etc.

keg92101 Apr 2, 2007 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegodweller (Post 2737207)
I see a lot of people pushing for higher buildings (taller than 40+ stories) in downtown. I am sure that this has been addressed somewhere on this site but the limiting factor for most of downtown San Diego is the groundwater table. You can't dig very far down (for parking) without hitting groundwater. The cost of having a pump system and waterproofing to keep the lower floors dry is prohibitive.

The true restriction on higher buildings in DTSD is the FAA height limit of 500', not the water table. A mat slab solves that issue. Unfortunately, the FAA's rule of 500' is non negotiable.

BrandonJXN Apr 2, 2007 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegodweller (Post 2737190)
Good point. I was at the Laker game yesterday. It was the first time I had been to Staples in about 2 years. I was impressed by all of the projects under construction but I had to wonder why people will want to live there. There is really not much to do in the immediate area.

I realize that this may change over time (several years) but it is difficult to create a viable street scene by just building some mid-rises.

You also can't create a thriving city by building 1,000 foot tall skyscrapers everywhere *glares at Dubai.*

Downtown LA will be the place to be in 2010 with LA Live 100% complete and Grand Ave Phase 1 finished.

But this picture reminds me of what downtown LA needs: A active, clean, vital, lively street scene: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...l/IMG_7694.jpg

I used to live in SD (North Park..I went to Roosevelt Jr High School 10 years ago. THOSE were the days) and while I love LA, San Diego will always be home.

Derek Apr 2, 2007 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg92101 (Post 2737337)
The true restriction on higher buildings in DTSD is the FAA height limit of 500', not the water table. A mat slab solves that issue. Unfortunately, the FAA's rule of 500' is non negotiable.

i still say that somebody should challenge this;)

Urban Sky Apr 2, 2007 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2737972)
i still say that somebody should challenge this;)

i agree. there really is no point. they say its for aborting landings etc, but i used to live right there and ive seen tons of those. no turning is involved. :sly: i doubt they'd ever get around to changing it unless they move the airport though. i get the impression that the FAA is pretty powerful that way.

Derek Apr 3, 2007 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Sky (Post 2738067)
i agree. there really is no point. they say its for aborting landings etc, but i used to live right there and ive seen tons of those. no turning is involved. :sly: i doubt they'd ever get around to changing it unless they move the airport though. i get the impression that the FAA is pretty powerful that way.

yeah, ive seen numerous ones...they just turn on the after burners and go straight over the runway...and then go around to the north to do it again:shrug:

Urban Sky Apr 3, 2007 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2738214)
yeah, ive seen numerous ones...they just turn on the after burners and go straight over the runway...and then go around to the north to do it again:shrug:

yeh, its loud as hell. i think its just full throttle. it seems like the fed ex planes are the loudest when they do that...

anyway, there is plenty of room for correction and i dont see the problem with building higher...especially all the way out in east village.

HurricaneHugo Apr 3, 2007 1:03 AM

anybody know what tower is going up in UTC around Costa Verde? It's about 10 floors up right now.

Derek Apr 3, 2007 1:15 AM

^Hyatt Residences maybe?:shrug:


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