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HurricaneHugo Aug 10, 2007 9:47 AM

where's L30 Pier at?

Derek Aug 10, 2007 12:50 PM

Little Italy.

SDCAL Aug 10, 2007 6:03 PM

^^ Out of all those, I think the most likely to get built will be the Pier building just becasue it's a CityMark project. CityMark seems to follow-through on plans and must have a good cash reserve becasue their projects sell-out quicker than others (Fahrenheit, m2i, Apeture also in little italy, Egyptian in Hillcrest). I think part of their success is that they follow a very middle of the road philosophy - their projects are sizeable, but not tall highrises and their units are not luxurious top of the line, yet they are above the typical condo and offer disctinct loft-like amenities. They seem to have really found a niche in the SD market.

:leek:

As far as the CCDC website, i have quit looking at it because so much of the information is unrealiable. It's just like the crooked politicians, it tries to sugar-coat things and string viewers along by never posting negative information. Most of the projects that have been postponed or cancelled say "scheduled to begin late 2007". on their next "update" they will ikely just update all the dates to "early winter 2008" then "spring 2008" and so forth.


Their project run-down list has really lost credibility in my opinion. There is a project on there called Echelon that still says it was to begin in 2006 and be complete in 2007, but hasn't even broke ground. -

I think CCDC is afraid that if they take all the cancelled projects off their map it will look eerily sparse so they just keep putting phantom dates in.

A real shame because that would be the most logical and easiest way to obtain development information downtown. It would be really nice if it were more reliable :runaway:

bmfarley Aug 10, 2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 3002676)
As far as the CCDC website, i have quit looking at it because so much of the information is unrealiable. It's just like the crooked politicians, it tries to sugar-coat things and string viewers along by never posting negative information. Most of the projects that have been postponed or cancelled say "scheduled to begin late 2007". on their next "update" they will ikely just update all the dates to "early winter 2008" then "spring 2008" and so forth.


Their project run-down list has really lost credibility in my opinion. There is a project on there called Echelon that still says it was to begin in 2006 and be complete in 2007, but hasn't even broke ground.

Many projects have also been completed, yet they remain on the list and on their map.

ICON
Diamond View
The Mark
Alta
Smart Corner
Aloft
Metrowork

Derek Aug 12, 2007 6:28 PM

Does anybody remember where the bowling alley is being built downtown?

I can't find anything on it.

bmfarley Aug 12, 2007 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 3005922)
Does anybody remember where the bowling alley is being built downtown?

I can't find anything on it.

As I recall, it was/is suppose to be somewhere along/between Market and Island and 7th to 10th.

Derek Aug 12, 2007 7:01 PM

I remember seeing it was under construction, I just forgot where.

Thanks. :)

bmfarley Aug 12, 2007 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 3005960)
I remember seeing it was under construction, I just forgot where.

Thanks. :)

I don't know of anything under construction in that area now.

Derek Aug 12, 2007 11:12 PM

This is cool information, I just found it looking around for information on the bowling alley.

Fuddruckers has signed a 10-year, $1.9 million lease for space in the old First National Bank Building at Fifth Avenue and Broadway in Downtown San Diego and is tentatively scheduled to open in a portion of the space in August. (March 5, 2007)


Brandon, you were right about the construction as it has not started yet. The bowling alley is called East Village Tavern and Bowl, and it just obtained a liquor license, but construction is still in planning stages.

DowntownSDJoe Aug 12, 2007 11:53 PM

http://live6.truelook.com/face/newfa...&imagemap.h=99


is it just me or is the hilton hotel thats being built have the ugliest glass i have ever seen,it looks like the building is made of plastic,i thought the renderings of it looked good,hopefully it will turn out like them


sorry i dont have a webcam pic,how do you paste a pic on????

Derek Aug 13, 2007 3:00 AM

Gaylord, port talks on hotel to restart
Local labor groups hit the picket line

By David Washburn
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

August 8, 2007

Gaylord Entertainment has resumed negotiations with Chula Vista and San Diego Unified Port District officials on a $1 billion resort hotel and convention center on the Chula Vista bayfront, despite its inability to come to terms with local unions.

Port commissioners yesterday, responding to a letter Gaylord sent Thursday, agreed in closed session to continue negotiations with the Tennessee-based company. The port action came after a month-long impasse while Gaylord battled with union leaders.

On July 6, Gaylord abruptly walked away from a deal that had been two years in the making, citing unreasonable demands by the unions. Labor leaders countered by saying Gaylord could not be trusted to hire local workers on the project, and a week ago announced they no longer were negotiating with the company.

Gaylord, citing strong support from the community, has come back to the negotiating table anyway.

“As a result of the overwhelming show of community support for Gaylord's inclusion within the Chula Vista Bayfront Project, Gaylord hereby requests to continue discussions,” Gaylord Senior Vice President Bennett Westbrook wrote in a letter to port President Bruce Hollingsworth.

Westbrook also has had discussions in recent days with Chula Vista Mayor Cheryl Cox, who said she was thrilled by the response from the community.

“I'm pleased that (Gaylord) talked to me on Friday,” Cox said. “They got the message loud and clear from labor that they won't talk to them. I hope they got the other half, which is, 'I will.' ”

Labor demonstrated that it will continue to publicly oppose Gaylord at every opportunity. Yesterday, union members picketed outside the port building, and Electrical Workers Union spokeswoman Jennifer Badgley read a statement to port commissioners before they went into closed session.

“I think their definition of community is different from mine,” Badgley said later. “The only community I've seen around Gaylord is chamber of commerce types and developer front groups.”

The unions want Gaylord to agree to a “project labor agreement,” which is a contract between the developer and unions saying the project will be built by union workers.

These agreements are common in the construction world, but not universal. Gaylord has avoided them in other hotel and convention center projects it has built in Texas and Florida, and one that it is building in Maryland.

Gaylord's last proposal offered a “modified” project labor agreement that would give union contractors first dibs to bid on jobs, and preference to local workers, but not require the company to use only union contractors and local labor.
Local officials have not put a timetable on the renewed talks with Gaylord, but Cox and port commissioner Mike Najera, who represents Chula Vista, said they were “moving along” before being derailed by the labor issues.

“This is a positive step, but we still have a lot of work to do to bring this to fruition,” Najera said.

Central to the negotiations is the completion of the environmental impact report for the Chula Vista Bayfront Master Plan, which has been in the works for years, and agreements on a lease for port-owned land and financing arrangements.

So far, officials have outlined a $308 million public subsidy for the project, probably paid through bonds and revenue generated by the development.

Officials say the project has the potential to increase revenue for Chula Vista by 10 percent; add 3,000 new, permanent jobs; and serve as a springboard for other commercial and residential developments.

sandiegodweller Aug 13, 2007 3:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 3006248)
This is cool information, I just found it looking around for information on the bowling alley.

Fuddruckers has signed a 10-year, $1.9 million lease for space in the old First National Bank Building at Fifth Avenue and Broadway in Downtown San Diego and is tentatively scheduled to open in a portion of the space in August. (March 5, 2007)


Brandon, you were right about the construction as it has not started yet. The bowling alley is called East Village Tavern and Bowl, and it just obtained a liquor license, but construction is still in planning stages.


No, the site is next to Lotus Thai on Market between 9th and 10th. The project is well under construction and is expected to open by the end of September with 6 lanes of bowling. They also tied up the corner of 10th and market and will add another 6 bowling lanes sometime in the near future.

Derek Aug 13, 2007 3:46 AM

Oh! Thank you dweller! I just couldn't find any updated articles on it.

bmfarley Aug 13, 2007 4:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandiegodweller (Post 3006653)
No, the site is next to Lotus Thai on Market between 9th and 10th. The project is well under construction and is expected to open by the end of September with 6 lanes of bowling. They also tied up the corner of 10th and market and will add another 6 bowling lanes sometime in the near future.

Come to think of it, I saw that place the other day undergoing some work. It doesn't look like a new structure, however, it looks like a rehab effort. Unless I saw it in its initial phase?

sandiegodweller Aug 13, 2007 3:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmfarley (Post 3006699)
Come to think of it, I saw that place the other day undergoing some work. It doesn't look like a new structure, however, it looks like a rehab effort. Unless I saw it in its initial phase?


It is not a new structure. They took over the old Centex Homes sales center at 939 Market. They also got the empty space next to it. They are putting a new facade on the exisiting buildings. The project also wraps around to 9th behind Java Jones and Lotus Thai.

SDDTProspector Aug 14, 2007 8:27 PM

KMA has updated it webpage...
 
There seems to some great pictures of some Future San Diego developments...

There are in Adobe Flash so I can't post them... but check it out....

http://www.kma-ae.com/#mixed-use-landing-1e8585

Project Pictures.....

RIVERIA
GRIRGO
PACIFICA TOWER
MONACO
707 Lofts
AXIOM
6th / Palm

SEsdCALconnect Aug 15, 2007 1:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDDTProspector (Post 3009903)
There seems to some great pictures of some Future San Diego developments...

There are in Adobe Flash so I can't post them... but check it out....

http://www.kma-ae.com/#mixed-use-landing-1e8585

Project Pictures.....

RIVERIA
GRIRGO
PACIFICA TOWER
MONACO
707 Lofts
AXIOM
6th / Palm

here's some of the pics from the KMA site
http://www.kma-ae.com/#mixed-use-landing-1e8585

RIVERIA (40-stories)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9776/rivieraqk6.jpg

GRIGIO (42-stories...appears to be formerly MONDRIAN)
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7289/grigiort6.jpg

PACIFICA TOWER (19-stories)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2...catowerll7.jpg

MONACO (40-stories, 500')
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/1246/monacouc0.jpg

707 Lofts (8-stories)
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3047/707loftspk4.jpg

AXIOM (10-11 (?) stories)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4364/axiomnc7.jpg

6th / Palm (13-stories)
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8874/6thpalmfp0.jpg

eburress Aug 15, 2007 5:29 AM

^^ Not too shabby...and definitely better than some of the turd proposals we've seen.

spoonman Aug 15, 2007 6:16 AM

It is sooooo hard to get sleek residential towers :dead:


Rest in peace Cosmo Square...rest in peace :(

Crackertastik Aug 15, 2007 6:24 AM

FECK I HATE 500' Monaco looks so promising, and then BOOOM, height limit... crapola.


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