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stockjock Aug 4, 2007 10:25 PM

Some thoughts...

The San Diego Airport isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. One of two things will likely happen. Either the current location will stay and possibly expand if land opens up in the surrounding area, or it will move to Miramar if the Navy voluntarily allows it (don't hold your breath for this). It isn't going to be built in Imperial County nor will it be built offshore. Bottom line, barring a miracle, Lindbergh will be around for a long time.

All of the dreams of skyscrapers being built in excess of 500' in downtown San Diego are pretty much futile. As long as Lindbergh stays, the FAA restrictions stay as well.

The San Diego real estate market is probably not done dropping just yet, but the doomsday predictions by some pundits (mostly on other anti-real estate, those who bought are idiots, Armchair QB sites) are pie in the sky. Downtown San Diego property may well get cheaper in the short-term, but it's going to stay expensive and become even more expensive once the dust settles.

I'll be at the Padres vs. Giants game at Petco Park tonight, and I hope that Barry Bonds does not tie or break the major league home run record in our house.

That is all.

Marina_Guy Aug 5, 2007 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg92101 (Post 2990903)
When you get the chance, walk into Alta, and offer them $400 per sf... oh, make sure you wait until after you walk the unit. That place is amazing. Thankfully, builders calling their places luxury can't anymore with true luxury units coming online...

Friend of mine lives in Alta. Very nice building. ANKA, the Austrialian developers, did a nice job. Very upscale, contemporary finishes. Don't care much for the top of building though. I think they kinda messed it up adding a few more floors.

As far as prices of condos go, time will tell. All I know is that if the quality of life in an urban area improves, so will prices (long term). It is amazing to see what real estate costs in London and all other major international cities. If San Diego has leadership that will work to improve its infrastructure, invest in civic structures and parks...the future will look bright.

eburress Aug 5, 2007 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2990944)
Like I said, I will never use the cross-border terminal. Ever.

Why is that? Personally, I would use a cross-border terminal before I would use a floating one. ;)

In all seriousness, this proposal doesn't sound like a permanent airport solution...just a means of easing congestion. Maybe I misread though.

laguna Aug 5, 2007 4:42 AM

Its all yours!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 2989490)



This is a development board for San Diego, and the people on here post comments on both things going good and things we think need improvement. I don't think pointing out problems with the government and things we would like to see done differently in the city in which we live is "whining". fed-up with the direction our city is going right now.

Maybe you should read what the purpose of this board is, city compilations is listed under 'projects and construction' and the purpose is stated as,
"A place to report active highrise/urban development occurring in your city".

Does it say anything about pointing out what you see as problems with your city government? Why not do as other threads are doing and report on construction of highrises, I see some of that, but mostly it is plaintive threads about how the older people are not doing what you know is best for the city. Look at the Las Vegas forum and see how they do it.

I will leave this thread to those of you who think it is like Kos or one of the fringe political sites, or maybe it is like a lonely-hearts club site.

Adiu

Derek Aug 5, 2007 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eburress (Post 2991579)
Why is that? Personally, I would use a cross-border terminal before I would use a floating one. ;)


It just doesn't seem right. I don't want our fine city to share a terminal with Tijuana. (Sorry TJ!)

Derek Aug 5, 2007 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stockjock (Post 2991231)
I'll be at the Padres vs. Giants game at Petco Park tonight, and I hope that Barry Bonds does not tie or break the major league home run record in our house.

Too late. :(

Oh well, fuck him.

dl3000 Aug 5, 2007 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laguna (Post 2991705)
Maybe you should read what the purpose of this board is, city compilations is listed under 'projects and construction' and the purpose is stated as,
"A place to report active highrise/urban development occurring in your city".

Does it say anything about pointing out what you see as problems with your city government? Why not do as other threads are doing and report on construction of highrises, I see some of that, but mostly it is plaintive threads about how the older people are not doing what you know is best for the city. Look at the Las Vegas forum and see how they do it.

I will leave this thread to those of you who think it is like Kos or one of the fringe political sites, or maybe it is like a lonely-hearts club site.

Adiu

Correction: Adieu....Bye.


As I heard on the radio, congrats to Barry and his very large syringe. I say better here, it robs him of his celebration at home, of course he'll wait to beat the record till he's in SF.

I see the cross border terminal as the most realistic of the far fetched airport remedies. Their approach is not affected by Otay, they have some space for an additional runway, and all landside facilities could be in the US, only the gates, taxiways, and runway would be in Mexico, sounds very feasible if it would get us some nonstop international flights outside the continent.

spoonman Aug 5, 2007 7:40 AM

^I agree with you dl3000 about TJ being the most feasible, but I also think it is unacceptable. To think that the best option we have is to share an airport with a neighboring country is repugnant. I'll support trying to put a second runway at SDIA before supporting this. This plan and the plan to add only 10 gates to get us all the way until distant 2015 [sarcasm] is another example of the Airport Authority finding bogus solutions or non-solutions in order to guarantee their positions another 10 years and pander to their interests.

eburress Aug 5, 2007 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laguna (Post 2991705)
Maybe you should read what the purpose of this board is, city compilations is listed under 'projects and construction' and the purpose is stated as,
"A place to report active highrise/urban development occurring in your city".

Does it say anything about pointing out what you see as problems with your city government? Why not do as other threads are doing and report on construction of highrises, I see some of that, but mostly it is plaintive threads about how the older people are not doing what you know is best for the city. Look at the Las Vegas forum and see how they do it.

I will leave this thread to those of you who think it is like Kos or one of the fringe political sites, or maybe it is like a lonely-hearts club site.

Adiu

Wow, you're so clever. You must have learned that at the top.

eburress Aug 5, 2007 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2991706)
It just doesn't seem right. I don't want our fine city to share a terminal with Tijuana. (Sorry TJ!)

I agree it doesn't seem right, but at this point, I think I would take a half-assed, second rate solution over what we're doing now (putting makeup on a pig).

dl3000 Aug 5, 2007 5:22 PM

^Agreed.

ShekelPop Aug 5, 2007 6:22 PM

NBC Renderings
 
Ok, I'm gonna try again to post the NBC Renderings taken off the CCDC link to the Phase 1 Renderings:

First a wide shot, for some context:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1434/...21fd81.jpg?v=0

Building 2 - 13-Story Office (facing Harbor Dr.)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1185/...7a53f0.jpg?v=0

Building 3 - 28-Story Twin Tower Hotel (looking East, Southeast)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1404/...1d6fd6.jpg?v=0

Building 4 - 10-Story "lighthouse" style Hotel (facing Harbor Dr.)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/...59da63.jpg?v=0

Also Building 4 - view looking NE from Harbor Dr. (you can see the twin tower hotel in the upper left corner)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1030/...276055.jpg?v=0

Building 5 - Navy Administration Complex (250 Feet, which most of us had already seen)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1321/...d718a2.jpg?v=0

Interior Promenade looking south toward the colonial-style hotel building From E St. You can see the conceptual 30 foot wide digital screen at the terminal end of the promenade attached to the Colonial Hotel building. the foreground of this photo has the base of the twin tower hotel on the left and the office tower (building 2) on the right.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1142/...dab75d.jpg?v=0

finally, the full site (from behind) looking NW from the Hyatt
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/...b1fea9.jpg?v=0

Again, the legend to the buildings, as you can see we're still waiting on Buildings 1 (officially), 6, and 7:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...es/navy430.gif

Oh, and I know how excited a lot of you get about the park/open space, so I was able to get a rendering of the park in front of Building 1 from a friend of mine involved in the project:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1220/...7e0117.jpg?v=0

Derek Aug 5, 2007 6:50 PM

That park looks great! :jester:

Thanks for posting those. :)

spoonman Aug 5, 2007 7:18 PM

:breakcomp:








PS: That was pretty good...

bmfarley Aug 6, 2007 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2991710)
Too late. :(

Oh well, fuck him.

Yeah, but, the San Diego skyline beyond Petco confines will be immortalized for a long time. At least until Alex Rodriquez passes Bonds after he retires.

mongoXZ Aug 6, 2007 4:50 AM

The twin tower hotel actually looks good. But there is nothing in building 4 that looks like a lighthouse. It looks more like the existing building on that site right now.

Filambata Aug 6, 2007 6:09 AM

Waterfront Rendering
 
Check out an awesome waterfront rendering from a presentation posted at CCDC's website. See page 2 in particular.

http://www.ccdc.com/events/resources...esentation.pdf

Derek Aug 6, 2007 6:14 AM

What would it take to relocate all of Park Row's residents and mow down the entire complex? It KILLS everything.

spoonman Aug 6, 2007 7:00 AM

^Maybe our effete Airport Authority will decide that Park Row can be turned into a giant heliport in order to solve our airport woes...

spoonman Aug 6, 2007 7:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek loves SD (Post 2993289)
What would it take to relocate all of Park Row's residents and mow down the entire complex? It KILLS everything.

Nothing short of arson my friend...lol


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