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casper May 3, 2020 11:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawker (Post 8911226)
Hate to say it, but instead of looking for someone to come along and inject more cash, they need to look at starting to reduce labour costs.

Other airports such as Vancouver have reduced cleaning costs by closing off piers and reduced the area that needs to be cleaned and supported.

Air Canada is predicting a return to most routes by the end of the year. I think it will take longer.

PhotoJim May 4, 2020 2:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by casper (Post 8911717)
Hate to say it, but instead of looking for someone to come along and inject more cash, they need to look at starting to reduce labour costs.
I heard an interview from the president of the airport authority a few days ago. He addressed some of these concerns.

Shutting down parts of the airport would be difficult because we only have a few gates. I haven't been to the airport since the pandemic struck, but I'd guess they're only using two or three gates. It would be difficult to shut down some of the gates unless lighting and such can be controlled discreetly. (That ability may never have been foreseen as being useful.)

Many costs are fixed and statutorily required, e.g. fire fighting ability. I'm sure they're spending less on things like cleaning, but they would still need security.

The president said they have cut all operations that they are allowed to cut that make sense, and I'm inclined to believe him. We don't have the luxury of shutting a large section of a large terminal. We only have one terminal and it isn't large to begin with.

casper May 5, 2020 12:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 8912051)
I heard an interview from the president of the airport authority a few days ago. He addressed some of these concerns.

Shutting down parts of the airport would be difficult because we only have a few gates. I haven't been to the airport since the pandemic struck, but I'd guess they're only using two or three gates. It would be difficult to shut down some of the gates unless lighting and such can be controlled discreetly. (That ability may never have been foreseen as being useful.)

Many costs are fixed and statutorily required, e.g. fire fighting ability. I'm sure they're spending less on things like cleaning, but they would still need security.

The president said they have cut all operations that they are allowed to cut that make sense, and I'm inclined to believe him. We don't have the luxury of shutting a large section of a large terminal. We only have one terminal and it isn't large to begin with.
I suspect cleaning is the one option. With only a 4-5 flights a day and very few passengers they should be able to dramatically reduce their cleaning cost.

one_brick_at_a_time May 22, 2020 7:32 PM
Regina Airport Authority facing 'financial crisis' in 2020

https://leaderpost.com/news/local-ne...-1b6c312233e6/

The Bess Jun 30, 2020 5:22 PM
Wow I hope this ends soon

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.5632898

Crisis Jun 30, 2020 6:26 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bess (Post 8967486)
Quote:
Flights from Regina to Winnipeg, Regina to Saskatoon, Regina to Ottawa and Saskatoon to Ottawa have been halted indefinitely.

I didn't know they ran flights between Saskatoon & Regina.

Draftsman Jun 30, 2020 6:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Crisis (Post 8967600)
I didn't know they ran flights between Saskatoon & Regina.
The press release from Air Canada probably had an error, as there is no direct service between Regina (YQR) and Saskatoon (YXE), nor is there any service between Regina and Ottawa (YOW). There is however, a seasonal (summer) flight that originates in Ottawa that flies non-stop to Regina, then it continues on to Saskatoon, and then it heads back to Ottawa non-stop. So basically, this flight made a loop between the three cities. And this seasonal flight only ran 6 days a week.

Regina is only losing two flights, not three.

PhotoJim Jul 2, 2020 4:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Draftsman (Post 8967642)
The press release from Air Canada probably had an error, as there is no direct service between Regina (YQR) and Saskatoon (YXE), nor is there any service between Regina and Ottawa (YOW). There is however, a seasonal (summer) flight that originates in Ottawa that flies non-stop to Regina, then it continues on to Saskatoon, and then it heads back to Ottawa non-stop. So basically, this flight made a loop between the three cities. And this seasonal flight only ran 6 days a week.

Regina is only losing two flights, not three.
Service to a distant airport via another airport (or even several) where you can stay on the same plan eis called "direct" in the airline industry, so a flight on the same craft via Saskatoon to Ottawa is direct, just not non-stop.

You could buy a flight to Saskatoon on that route and get off there. You could also connect in Saskatoon to elsewhere (which I'm sure is how it was used, if ever anyone got off in Saskatoon).

So, technically, we had non-stop (and direct) service to Saskatoon, and direct (but not non-stop) service to Ottawa.

Crisis Jul 2, 2020 9:15 PM
So, in theory, Air Canada could fly you from Regina to Saskatoon but not from Saskatoon to Regina.

one_brick_at_a_time Jul 2, 2020 9:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Crisis (Post 8969699)
So, in theory, Air Canada could fly you from Regina to Saskatoon but not from Saskatoon to Regina.
Weren’t there once flights from Ottawa to Saskatoon and looping
to Regina back to Ottawa as well?

PhotoJim Jul 3, 2020 3:04 PM
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Originally Posted by one_brick_at_a_time (Post 8969734)
Weren’t there once flights from Ottawa to Saskatoon and looping
to Regina back to Ottawa as well?
Yes. It was, I think, Saskatoon-Regina-Ottawa; Ottawa-Regina-Saskatoon. (I might have Regina/Saskatoon inverted.) So that way, there was a return pair between Regina and Saskatoon (and either and Ottawa) every day.

Later, AC changed it to Saskatoon-Ottawa-Halifax and Regina-Ottawa-Montreal, arriving in Ottawa within 2-3 minutes of each other, so that Saskatoon passengers could connect to Montreal and Regina passengers could connect to Halifax with an easy 45-minute connection in Ottawa. But later, they changed back to the single pair of flights a day involving both Regina and Saskatoon.

EDM753Fan Jul 23, 2020 8:10 PM
aaaaaand welcome to SK Flair Airlines..... https://globalnews.ca/news/7210239/f...-saskatchewan/

What's the consensus folks? Good? Bad? Ugly?

one_brick_at_a_time Jul 23, 2020 8:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EDM753Fan (Post 8990241)
aaaaaand welcome to SK Flair Airlines..... https://globalnews.ca/news/7210239/f...-saskatchewan/

What's the consensus folks? Good? Bad? Ugly?
Finally!!!!

Stormer Jul 23, 2020 8:42 PM
When I flew Flair from YQR to Kelowna a few years back I think my fair was $14 + taxes. Everything was a la carte. It is great to have some competition.

one_brick_at_a_time Jul 23, 2020 8:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 8990267)
When I flew Flair from YQR to Kelowna a few years back I think my fair was $14 + taxes. Everything was a la carte. It is great to have some competition.
I agree. Having 3 airlines flying from Regina/Saskatoon to and from Vancouver and Toronto-Pearson will be a good thing. Hope this will keep the prices competitive.

caveat.doctor Aug 21, 2020 1:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PhotoJim (Post 8912051)
Shutting down parts of the airport would be difficult because we only have a few gates. I haven't been to the airport since the pandemic struck, but I'd guess they're only using two or three gates. It would be difficult to shut down some of the gates unless lighting and such can be controlled discreetly. (That ability may never have been foreseen as being useful.)

We don't have the luxury of shutting a large section of a large terminal. We only have one terminal and it isn't large to begin with.
They've done their best to cordon off sections that aren't needed and close the cafe/lounge airside to reduce cleaning effort, but as you said it's not really possible to close the whole thing:

https://i.imgur.com/UdRCOFpl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Mzp47jdl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bDRFcqUl.jpg

Kind of spooky really:

https://i.imgur.com/86DfPdkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/72uiWqkl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N6AvKS5l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1mP6GHml.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/L3T6ej4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/qMB6PEJl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JmcwHx0l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TkXlJJ5l.jpg

Gate 3 seems to be the main one in use, people were mostly congregated around there, and the Tim Horton's and the Relay now that they're airside:

https://i.imgur.com/LHnrHj4l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BrFR007l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bvxlmhnl.jpg

The expansion really makes the sharp drop in passengers all the more stark. Compared to a few years ago before they expanded the footprint, it might not have been as noticeable:

https://i.imgur.com/CNbGOYCl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OKLZ9Pol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nZ9m5tWl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2qCpQLUl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KNGM9DBl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/94vFkebl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vEEqo29l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N0y8ycCl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/25z1W20l.jpg

one_brick_at_a_time Aug 24, 2020 11:57 PM
Some excitement today at YQR!

https://i.ibb.co/LxbPckZ/21-AC8410-F...-B5-DCF1-E.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/TLNF4qC/BAF1-E2-B5-...AD950961-E.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/522Dmrv/316-DF6-F6-...B1-D5732-C.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/ScHqMPy/4327-F118-E...-CE20266-E.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/0mv85Fb/9-C32-D70-D...F2-CFB43-B.jpg

PhotoJim Aug 25, 2020 2:45 PM
Flair's not at all my things, but once the dust settles on travel, assuming they stick it out here, they will help to keep WestJet's and Air Canada's fares down.

If Flair got their service up to daily levels at convenient times, I could ese them being tempting for a weekend trip to Toronto or Vancouver. Unfortunately, urban holidays are exactly what I'm not interested in right now. My 2020 holiday is a week in an isolated cabin in northern Saskatchewan instead. :)

Draftsman Aug 25, 2020 9:40 PM
Flair's livery
 
For what it's worth, their livery is ugly! Did they have a design contest at an elementary school?

one_brick_at_a_time Aug 25, 2020 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Draftsman (Post 9022126)
For what it's worth, their livery is ugly! Did they have a design contest at an elementary school?
I actually don’t mind it and enjoy the mint and black.


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