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HurricaneHugo Aug 18, 2017 5:43 AM

Yeah I love seeing Tijuana grow.

At this point it's more likely they'll get a 500+ footer before San Diego does...

IMBY Aug 18, 2017 6:21 AM

When the tourists got scared off into going there, during the drug wars, along with the passport requirement, TJ had to reinvent itself, become less dependent on tourists, and I think they've done a great job of that.

The Biomed companies in San Diego need some product manufactured, they don't need to go to China or India to make it, they can go right in their "backyard" to have it made. Now over 10,000 call centers in TJ, competing with India/Philippines, and there's medical tourism.

Yes, wouldn't it be an ego deflator if TJ puts up a tower higher than anything in San Diego!

The congestion, I've noticed, gets worse every day over there, and I see they now have 2 glass bus shelters constructed on Revolution, for Rapid Bus Transit I believe.

I try so hard to like San Diego, but it didn't help that I went to see a museum in Balboa Park, lit up a cigarette, and I was told No Smoking in the entirety of Balboa Park!:shrug:

Back to TJ!:runaway:

ArquitectoMontenegro Aug 18, 2017 4:41 PM

IMBY,

You asked about the NEW CITY residential project right next to the San Ysidro Border--I am pretty sure they're total number of residential towers will be 5 (the 4th is opening soon).

The design of those towers isn't all that great, but what excites me is the adjacent New City Medical Plaza that is under construction. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblsbxfVIAA_tA1.jpg

As for the crane on Revolucion, I think that's this project (It's the project halfway down the Tijuana skycrapercity thread, follow the link): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...06951&page=456

And in case you were not aware that Tijuana had a construction forum such as this San Diego Boom Rundown forum, you're welcome!

HurricaneHugo Aug 20, 2017 3:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMBY (Post 7896769)
When the tourists got scared off into going there, during the drug wars...

That's still going on in TJ...

400 homicides in 4 months in 2017

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/tiju...o-far-in-2017/

The Flying Dutchman Aug 20, 2017 4:21 AM

Don't feed trolls please.

Streamliner Aug 21, 2017 11:32 PM

I like the idea of streamlining these :)

Neighborhoods could become more lively, colorful under proposed San Diego law
David Garrick
Union-Tribune
August 21, 2017

Quote:

San Diego might soon see an explosion of painted murals, pedestrian plazas, decorative lighting and other upgrades designed to enhance the empty spaces in commercial districts and residential neighborhoods across the city.

Following the lead of Los Angeles and San Francisco, San Diego officials are proposing a new city “placemaking” ordinance to streamline the process for approving such upgrades and sharply reduce the permitting costs.

Those upgrades are called placemaking because they turn an empty lot or underutilized property into a notable “place,” by enhancing the pedestrian experience and boosting civic connections with gathering spots.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...821-story.html

IMBY Aug 22, 2017 2:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArquitectoMontenegro (Post 7897136)
IMBY,

You asked about the NEW CITY residential project right next to the San Ysidro Border--I am pretty sure they're total number of residential towers will be 5 (the 4th is opening soon).

The design of those towers isn't all that great, but what excites me is the adjacent New City Medical Plaza that is under construction. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblsbxfVIAA_tA1.jpg

As for the crane on Revolucion, I think that's this project (It's the project halfway down the Tijuana skycrapercity thread, follow the link): http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...06951&page=456

And in case you were not aware that Tijuana had a construction forum such as this San Diego Boom Rundown forum, you're welcome!

Thanks for uploading that! Now I know what's going up there!

Yes, the New City towers aren't that exciting to look at, but they're still a welcome addition. Good to hear there'll be a 5th tower to add to the density.

Rather strange location for that density, but maybe not. Live there, and merely walk to the Border.

Curious as to who the buyers are.

SacTownAndy Aug 23, 2017 4:32 PM

Hey guys, I'm sure I'm late to the boat on this but I used to check the interactive map on the ccdc website every now and then to catch up on DTSD projects. I can't seem to find that map anymore on their website. Anyone know if it's gone for good? Or am I just missing something?

SDfan Aug 23, 2017 9:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SacTownAndy (Post 7901312)
Hey guys, I'm sure I'm late to the boat on this but I used to check the interactive map on the ccdc website every now and then to catch up on DTSD projects. I can't seem to find that map anymore on their website. Anyone know if it's gone for good? Or am I just missing something?

The map is gone. There is a project status log you can access here:

http://civicsd.com/departments/plann...ct-status-log/

San Diego UrbDeZine has their own well-kept map here:

https://sandiego.urbdezine.com/development-map/

SacTownAndy Aug 24, 2017 4:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 7901748)
The map is gone. There is a project status log you can access here:

http://civicsd.com/departments/plann...ct-status-log/

San Diego UrbDeZine has their own well-kept map here:

https://sandiego.urbdezine.com/development-map/

Thank you! :tup:

HurricaneHugo Aug 25, 2017 3:16 AM

So in the height limits thread I mentioned that we have a 60 ft limit on the coast and that if we didn't have it, we'd be Miami (tons of condo towers on the beach)

I'm wondering if...

A) That's true or not
B) That's good or not
C) If that would drive prices down or up

SDfan Aug 25, 2017 3:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7903053)
So in the height limits thread I mentioned that we have a 60 ft limit on the coast and that if we didn't have it, we'd be Miami (tons of condo towers on the beach)

I'm wondering if...

A) That's true or not
B) That's good or not
C) If that would drive prices down or up

A) Not true. Our coastal height limit is 30', not 60'
B) Arguable. NIMBYs would say good (views and "community character" maintained). YIMBYs would say bad (exclusionary, cost driver)
C) Arguable-ish. Florida allows high-rises on their coast, and have looser regulations in general. Their housing costs are half of ours. Based on basic of supply and demand rules, if you restrict supply by limiting heights, densities, etc., and there is greater and greater demand, prices will only go up. CA is just starting to realize this now in the midst of the current housing crisis. Some would argue against this, but those are usually the same NIMBY folks who fear anything over two stories.

HurricaneHugo Aug 29, 2017 9:03 AM

California Supreme Court says that citizen initiative tax increases only need 50%, not 67%

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...828-story.html

A Charger Stadium in MV would have gotten that...

ArquitectoMontenegro Aug 29, 2017 9:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7906242)
California Supreme Court says that citizen initiative tax increases only need 50%, not 67%

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...828-story.html

A Charger Stadium in MV would have gotten that...

Probably, but Dean Spanos never wanted Mission Valley. Two very fine Mission Valley proposals were presented to him and and he just looked the other way and whined that he wanted a downtown stadium. He knew that the downtown/East Village stadium plan was not really feasible but he pushed hard on the East Village site, knowing it would never happen but it provided him an excuse for rejecting any Mission Valley proposal.

I believe he wanted to move the Chargers to LA the entire time and lied through his teeth every time he said he wanted the Chargers to stay in San Diego. His "Fight for LA" comment revealed his true intentions.

HurricaneHugo Aug 29, 2017 10:12 PM

Possible new downtown arena to be unveiled tomorrow by Alibaba founder?

To be used for an indoor lacrosse team and to try to lure an NHL team

Http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/da...-in-san-diego/

Streamliner Aug 29, 2017 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7906870)
Possible new downtown arena to be unveiled tomorrow by Alibaba founder?

To be used for an indoor lacrosse team and to try to lure an NHL team

Http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/da...-in-san-diego/

I'm seeing that as an NBA team, which would be awesome! Interesting to see some East Asian investment, or the potential of it at least, in San Diego.

ArquitectoMontenegro Aug 29, 2017 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7906870)
Possible new downtown arena to be unveiled tomorrow by Alibaba founder?

To be used for an indoor lacrosse team and to try to lure an NHL team

Http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/da...-in-san-diego/

That would be pretty awesome, but East Village doesn't want stadiums or arenas, it wants schools or office space to attract better paying jobs as opposed to service jobs.

At least the footprint would be smaller than the horrid Convadium, and it would attract more development, but they're going to have a hard time winning over local support.

I wonder if they sold that vacant lot behind the MTS building (technically Barrio Logan) or are they still trying to turn tailgate park lot into a stadium? I guess we'll know tomorrow.

https://goo.gl/images/SwEaO9

IconRPCV Aug 29, 2017 11:32 PM

An arena in PETCO's parking lot would be great, it could hopefully bring us a pro team to replace the chargers and be easily tied into the convention center to help with mega conventions, like COMICON.

Xavier Cage Aug 30, 2017 3:14 AM

Here is some more info from the twitter account of AP writer Bernie Wilson.

@berniewilson https://twitter.com/berniewilson

SD pro indoor lacrosse release set to drop Wed a.m. Most details under embargo, but owner will be Joe Tsai of Alibaba Group ...

which is not to be confused with Ali Baba Restaurant in El Cajon. Tsai is worth $8.9 billion. Lives in Hong Kong & owns house in La Jolla.

Peeps at City Hall are aware that Tsai wants to build an arena in East Village, with hopes of attracting an NBA squad.

Of course, getting anything big done in San Diego remains a pipe dream, so we'll see about that there arena & NBA ballsquad.

Oh, and if Joe Tsai does eventually build an arena in East Village, it's believed he'd do so with private money. Let. that. sink. in.

Nerv Aug 30, 2017 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7906242)
California Supreme Court says that citizen initiative tax increases only need 50%, not 67%

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...828-story.html

A Charger Stadium in MV would have gotten that...

Yea! Now things like the convention center expansion should pass. The 2/3 passage was always a joke since even the most well intended projects couldn't pass. Coming from our own Supreme Court should also silence most challengers who like the old 2/3 rule. The majority vote should always be the standard in voting.


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