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Spoiler May 22, 2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Restless 1 (Post 8195492)
I find it funny that your avatar is a car, but you seem to hate cars. Irony aside, San Antonio is a car centric city. It is impossible to change that quickly. Most San Antonio residents, by a big margin, live, and work, outside the CBD. Even with the moves of USAA, and the building of the Frost Tower, the demographics don't change.

Believe me, I understand, but San Antonio will never be a Downtown centered, car-less society. San Antonio is the least likely in Texas to get there. Dallas is landlocked for that very reason.

The vast majority of SA residents reside outside the CBD. Residential activity may very well increase within this district, but it won't alleviate the amount of people, who all see DT as theirs, from wanting to come there.

Or are you advocating DT become so expensive, that the Southside, Westside, and Eastside, need not come?

You're reading an awful lot into my brief sentences. There are more ways to go downtown than to drive yourself.

UltraDanPrime May 22, 2018 2:19 PM

Agree 100% Spoiler, I haven't driven myself DT in at least the last 2 years now.

sirkingwilliam Jun 1, 2018 10:17 PM


micahinsa Jun 1, 2018 10:19 PM

**edit

Beat me to it sirkingwilliam!

jaga185 Jun 1, 2018 11:07 PM

I like it, it's different. It provides some MAJOR density for that area as well. At 196ft I ain't mad at it. :)

KevinFromTexas Jun 1, 2018 11:13 PM

Oh, my. That looks interesting.

Based on that, and comparing the height to the Hilton Canopy Hotel next to it and the elevations we now have for that building, this building is roughly coming up to the 19th floor of the Hilton, which is at 199 feet 7 inches. It looks like it could be slightly taller than that, so I'd estimate the height to be very close to 200 feet.

https://i.imgur.com/pnuHQlq.png?1

micahinsa Jun 2, 2018 1:33 AM

So I'd been checking the Overland Partners Facebook page recently, seeing if they were going to post the new renderings; no luck.

It turns out there was a reason for that---the new HDRC submission from Keller Henderson has Rhode Partners as the architect. Rhode Partners, as in, the studio that's doing the Independent in Austin.

Looks like they fired Overland and started over.

Spoiler Jun 2, 2018 1:51 AM

This is my new favorite new development, hands down. Makes Canopy, 1603 Broadway, The Arts look like Chrysler K cars.

UrbanTrance Jun 2, 2018 1:55 AM

Nice, I can’t wait for it to rise. I want to see clearer renderings of the whole design though.

KevinFromTexas Jun 2, 2018 1:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micahinsa (Post 8207701)
It turns out there was a reason for that---the new HDRC submission from Keller Henderson has Rhode Partners as the architect. Rhode Partners, as in, the studio that's doing the Independent in Austin.

Looks like they fired Overland and started over.

I like most of Rhode Partners' buildings. Some of my favorite ones so far have been Rhode Partners designs. They pay a lot of attention to detail and come up with some really unusual designs.

AwesomeSAView Jun 2, 2018 2:56 AM

I LOVE the rooftop deck!!:cheers:
I want to live there!:cheers:
Want to see this get BUILT please!!:worship:

UltraDanPrime Jun 2, 2018 11:17 AM

Wow!! This is very, very, cool!!

JACKinBeantown Jun 2, 2018 1:00 PM

I like it. It has those angled columns and will be right next to another new building with similar angled columns, and a slight but not overt stacked box effect (I'll give it a pass as I'm tired of stacked boxes, but this does it in a subtly acceptable way with its octagonality). What's happening at the river level? Hopefully that's retail space and not just a lobby for the residents. That would make me really annoyed. It certainly gives density to the area.

These are the buildings it will replace on the street level. Will there be retail to replace the existing retail (with presumably better retail) or just a lobby? It looks like just a lobby in the rendering, but hopefully that's just a non-detailed placeholder.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4246...7i13312!8i6656

Fryguy Jun 2, 2018 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 8207960)
I like it. It has those angled columns and will be right next to another new building with similar angled columns, and a slight but not overt stacked box effect (I'll give it a pass as I'm tired of stacked boxes, but this does it in a subtly acceptable way with its octagonality). What's happening at the river level? Hopefully that's retail space and not just a lobby for the residents. That would make me really annoyed. It certainly gives density to the area.

These are the buildings it will replace on the street level. Will there be retail to replace the existing retail (with presumably better retail) or just a lobby? It looks like just a lobby in the rendering, but hopefully that's just a non-detailed placeholder.
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4246...7i13312!8i6656


Omg...is that an all glass residential buildings I am looking at with various setbacks and...is this building circular in its architectural form? This might be the most innovative project since the Frost Tower for downtown San Antonio. It is definitely most impressive. And definitely worthy of the pricetags associated with much of their for-sale and for-rent units. Let's see JMJ best this! Let's get this project built and ready by 2021! I may just stay in SA and move downtown, after all.

Fryguy Jun 2, 2018 1:42 PM

The way the Canopy Hotel and the Floodgate are presented reminds me of the ending of batteries not Included (1987). Hehe

JACKinBeantown Jun 2, 2018 5:34 PM

Looks like we'll get a two-fer on the Canopy web cam:

https://app.oxblue.com/open/sundt/hiltoncanopy

JACKinBeantown Jun 2, 2018 5:37 PM

And of course there's this:

https://ephemeralnewyork.files.wordp...mbuilding3.jpg
https://ephemeralnewyork.files.wordp...mbuilding3.jpg

KevinFromTexas Jun 2, 2018 6:31 PM

^Ha, I hadn't thought of that. It also reminded me of the Stearns Tower, which is one of my favorites in New York.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bear...w=1920&bih=947

Restless 1 Jun 2, 2018 10:59 PM

I was in the minority in that I liked the second version more than the first, but if this one has ground/river level retail, this is definitely the best of the three. :cheers:

Restless 1 Jun 2, 2018 11:05 PM

Do you have a link to these?


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