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Exodus Jul 14, 2006 8:53 AM

What is your opinion on these buildings ?
 
Just simply vote on a scale from 1-10

http://www.robertsonpartners.net/ima...3---8.5x11.jpg

Swede Jul 14, 2006 9:01 AM

I want them for SimCity! :)

Wheelingman04 Jul 15, 2006 2:52 AM

They are very nice. I give them an 8.

rockyi Jul 15, 2006 3:08 AM

Quite interesting, I also gave it an 8.

JManc Jul 15, 2006 3:38 AM

7. would be even better if they were diagonal from one another (think WTC) instead of side-by-side.

Paintballer1708 Jul 15, 2006 3:41 AM

I gave them a five. IMHO i really dont like their design.

vid Jul 15, 2006 3:45 AM

I gave them a 5. The one on the left isn't too bad, but both of them are severely disproportionate, and the base is quite awkward.

foxmtbr Jul 15, 2006 3:59 AM

9. I really like them, but they aren't "perfect."

Stephenapolis Jul 15, 2006 5:45 PM

I gave them an 8. The fact that they are not identical helps IMO. I think they are a perfect fit for LA.

yarabundi Jul 15, 2006 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swede
I want them for SimCity! :)

So do I. That's exactly what I thought seeing them !! :tup:
And I wouldn't mind having the model at home !!
The one on the right really have a 1920's art deco N.-Y. style :tup: but the left one is... I don't like the bulb on top !! :shrug:

bryson662001 Jul 15, 2006 6:37 PM

I can't vote out of context. As pure sculpture I like them very much but as buildings in a city they are too old fashioned for most places. The taller building is about 60 stories so it would be very promanant on the skyline. They would work in NY, particularly downtown or in Chicago. In any other city buildings that look that old shouldn't be that tall. It is unnatural.

Lecom Jul 15, 2006 10:32 PM

8. Great if they were built at the proper historical period, but postmodernism would find a way to make them tacky.

It would also be nice if the height order was flipped. The one on the left looks more appropriate to be the taller tower of the two.

Overall, great classic designs.

ProudlyCanadian Jul 15, 2006 10:58 PM

7/10 I like the design and think it's a perfect fit for LA. Only negative would be that they aren't really a representation of the time. Copying historical architecture can be a big mistake if not done right.

Just Build It Jul 15, 2006 11:06 PM

I like these buildings. I'm usually not a big fan of trying to copy something from another era, but these are interesting. I wouldn't like these for a city like Hong Kong for example, I think these would blend in fine with LA skyline and backdrop.

Clevelumbus Jul 16, 2006 12:25 AM

I give them an 8/10..

trueviking Jul 16, 2006 12:59 AM

my opinion expressed ad nauseum in the other thread....kitsch....cartoon architecture.....pure decorative wallpaper...design using the crutch of the past....sacrifices natural light for fake old stylistic replication.....completely dishonest architecure...has no spirit or innovation.....even as a knock off old building it is way out of scale and references historic styles that are inapproriate for this type of building....deco would have at least had some precedent.....the architect had no imagination whatsoever.....i bet he drives a PT cruiser.

yarabundi...there is no art deco in that design...it is a mish mash of a half dozen other thousand year old styles, but nothing from the last 2 centuries.


if this building was a car...it would be this.....

http://asprise.com/product/jtwain/ap...-cruiser-2.jpg

malec Jul 16, 2006 1:15 AM

I really don't get why everybody hates these types of designs. Some people complain saying "to hell with all this modern crap, let's bring back some real classics" and then when they get what they want they call it kitsch.

Those particular buildings above I don't really like but I honestly have no problem with towers like this:

http://www.emporis.com/files/transfe.../06/151131.jpg

SteveP Jul 16, 2006 1:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trueviking
my opinion expressed ad nauseum in the other thread....kitsch....cartoon architecture.....pure decorative wallpaper...design using the crutch of the past....sacrifices natural light for fake old stylistic replication.....completely dishonest architecure...has no spirit or innovation.....even as a knock off old building it is way out of scale and references historic styles that are inapproriate for this type of building....deco would have at least had some precedent.....the architect had no imagination whatsoever.....i bet he drives a PT cruiser.

yarabundi...there is no art deco in that design...it is a mish mash of a half dozen other thousand year old styles, but nothing from the last 2 centuries.


if this building was a car...it would be this.....

You must be an architect, because your way over-analyzing this building. The problem when architects rate buildings is that they analyze them so much that they simply can't just see the building for what it is.
Why does it have to conform to some era or type of design.....can't it just look good to the average person?

If I were designing a building I would design it to appeal to the masses, not to the architecture community, which makes up a miniscule portion of the population.

I'm sorry, but this building will look good to the average person. 8 out of 10 people will find this building cool.....isn't that the goal you'd want to achieve?

malec Jul 16, 2006 1:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveP
You must be an architect, because your way over-analyzing this building. The problem when architects rate buildings is that they analyze them so much that they simply can't just see the building for what it is.
Why does it have to conform to some era or type of design.....can't it just look good to the average person?

If I were designing a building I would design it to appeal to the masses, not to the architecture community, which makes up a miniscule portion of the population.

I'm sorry, but this building will look good to the average person. 8 out of 10 people will find this building cool.....isn't that the goal you'd want to achieve?

Exactly!

BTW, can someone guess where and when the building below was built? :D

http://static.flickr.com/69/189965453_55b222c68e.jpg

trueviking Jul 16, 2006 2:55 AM

seems like i am the only one actually analyzing it....can someone tell me what they like about them?....besides they remind you of something old?

mass appeal is hardly the definition of design quality...it is actually almost always the inverse...in all areas of the art world....to be popular is to be watered down and generic.....celine dion is one of the most popular singers in the world......does her popularity mean that she is the best musician?

more people have one of these hanging in their homes than any leonardo or botticelli...will you argue that because it is popular, it must then be better design?

http://www.velvetpaintings.com/Velve...w-Gold-500.jpg


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