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jaga185 Jun 1, 2008 8:23 AM

Texas A&M San Antonio - Verano Neighborhood
 
Something not in downtown I'm truly proud of! Way to go CitySouth Planners!

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Looks promising!

S.A. Jun 1, 2008 9:31 AM

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...0.4beb9581.jpg

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/met...o.3a4fbc3.html

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/news/gr...esentation.pdf


A&M campus could become S.A.'s Harvard

Web Posted: 06/01/2008 12:02 AM CDT

By Melissa Ludwig
Express-News

Look out Harvard, here comes Texas A&M University-San Antonio.

The first sketches of a new campus and urban village to be built on the South Side reveal a bustling, walkable community that developers are comparing to Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass. Looking at what's now a sleepy stretch of farmland, the scenes of crowds strolling across broad plazas and tree-lined promenades seem utterly unimaginable.

“Yes, Harvard-Cambridge may seem like pie-in-the sky, but it's not,” said Scott Polikov, president of Fort Worth-based Gateway Planning Group, which is designing the community for the Verano Land Group. Verano donated nearly 700 acres to Texas A&M to build the university and an irrigation technology center, with plans to recoup its costs on the surrounding developments.

“One of the reasons Harvard became great is that Cambridge was planned and grew to be a vessel to support Harvard,” Polikov said. “This is absolutely possible.”

Gateway's drawings depict a mixed-use community called Verano at City South, situated on 2,700 acres south of Loop 410 between Pleasanton Road and South Zarzamora Street.

The future Texas A&M University-San Antonio will serve as the anchor, surrounded by high-density lofts, town homes, student housing, office and industrial space, stores and restaurants.

Developers also envision a sports complex, a teaching hospital, a retirement community and a commuter rail station that may someday connect San Antonio to Austin and Round Rock. The expected completion date is 2037.

“This is a generational thing, not a five-year thing,” Polikov said. “We are giving birth to a new community.”



Texas A&M officials hope to break ground on campus infrastructure next year and the main building by 2010, a target that will require a Herculean effort by all stakeholders.

Everything is riding on one magic number: 1,500.

That's the number of full-time students needed at the local seed campus, a system center run by Texas A&M University-Kingsville that serves as the foundation for a full-grown university. Lawmakers have set aside $40 million in revenue bonds to build a new campus, but A&M will not get the money until enrollment at the system center hits 1,500. This spring, it reached 626.

Maria Hernandez Ferrier, the seed campus' newly appointed director, is shooting for 1,500 this fall, more than doubling the school's enrollment over the summer.

“It's our big, hairy, audacious goal,” Ferrier said. “We are going to do it. I have every confidence that we are going to do it.”

Starting from scratch

Ferrier's motivation goes deeper than that of a detached consultant. She's walked in her students' shoes.

Ferrier grew up on San Antonio's struggling West Side and didn't start college until she was 30. By then, she had married and divorced, and had two children. A mentor encouraged her to get an education, and it opened up her world.

She earned bachelor's and master's degrees from Our Lady of the Lake University and a doctorate in education from Texas A&M University. Ferrier went on to serve as assistant deputy secretary in the U.S. Education Department, and most recently served as director of the Southwest Independent School District's private foundation.

“Did I ever dream I would be in this position? Are you kidding me?” Ferrier said. “Education opened the door for me even when I didn't believe in myself. I am seeing this in so many of our students.”

As the University of Texas at San Antonio tightens its admission standards on its way to becoming a premier research university, Ferrier sees Texas A&M stepping in to serve those left behind.

“People on this part of town are just as bright as any other part of town,” she said. “But they need the opportunity and this university is giving that opportunity.”

With its embrace of new urbanism, the entire Verano development will raise the standard of living for many South Side residents, Ferrier said.

According to Polikov, Verano will build a variety of housing, from $150,000 starter homes to $500,000 condos. Everyone from professors and students to physical plant workers should be able to live affordably in the community, he said.

When finished, it will be hard to tell where the university ends and the village begins, Polikov said. Like Cambridge, people will be able to walk to the grocery store or the bookstore. Residents could use the library, and local sports leagues will share a stadium with college teams. There will be green spaces and streets designed for pedestrians and bicycles.

Unlike UTSA, which started out as a commuter campus and took 40 years to become semi-residential, A&M will build housing and other amenities from the get-go.

“We have the opportunity to start from scratch,” Polikov said. “That's how great communities are built.”

It's also a great opportunity for wealthy philanthropists to put their names on buildings, a pitch Ferrier plans to leverage in raising money to help build the campus.

Marmon Mok, a local architecture firm, already has begun drawing up plans for the permanent campus.

Eventually, the university will draw 25,000 students, create 10,200 permanent jobs and have an economic impact of $790 million, according to Verano's estimates.

Thirty years down the road, the development will generate $193 million a year in taxes and be worth $3.2 billion.

“The market shows these are the neighborhoods maintaining their value,” Polikov said. “This is going to be an attraction at an international level.”

Moving fast

Much of the burden for making all this happen rests now on Ferrier's petite shoulders.

Without the $40 million in revenue bonds, there will be no campus, and without 1,500 full-time students at the seed campus, there will be no revenue bonds.

To help lure students, the campus is offering $1,500-a-year scholarships to every student who qualifies. Verano has already donated $1 million to a scholarship fund and is helping to raise $7 million more.

The system's newly hired marketing director, Marilu Reyna, said she will launch a campaign next month to advertise the scholarships and the campus' new degree programs.

“We want some awareness that we are here. And a lot of people don't know that,” Reyna said.

The system center has been operating since 2000, but it languished for years in a depressing cluster of portables in a parking lot at Palo Alto College. After Texas lawmakers finally approved the revenue bonds in 2006, A&M rented and refurbished an old elementary school to allow the seed campus to expand.

“Just the move here to this building, it was like a shot in the arm,” Ferrier said.

Now things are moving. Fast.

A&M regents went on a hiring binge to prepare for an influx of students, bringing in Ferrier, a finance director, a marketing director, an academic dean and recruiters. The campus now offers 18 undergraduate programs, up from 13 last year, and five new master's degree programs.

On campus, construction workers are building a faculty lounge and computer lab and putting up walls to create more classroom space. There are also plans to turn the old cafeteria into a small cafe and bookstore for students.

By fall, the campus will have 10 new full-time faculty members and a receptionist.

“We want a live person answering the phone and welcoming people,” Ferrier said.

Since the campus only offers junior- and senior-level courses, most of the students transfer from Alamo Community Colleges, Ferrier said. She's not sure when A&M will be able to offer a full undergraduate program, but it will take years for them to transition to a permanent campus and win accreditation.

Despite the challenges, doubling enrollment by fall seems more and more possible as word spreads, Ferrier said.

“People are beginning to see that this is real,” she said.

KeepSanAntonioLame Jun 1, 2008 3:00 PM

Wow!

sirkingwilliam Jun 1, 2008 3:58 PM

My god! My jaw hit the floor and broke!

I know I've hyped Verano on here like no one else but now you see why!

No offense to the OP but the title needs to be changed. That's too quiet, it needs to YELL!!!! :yes: :haha:

Seriously... I can excuse how much I love it.

chancla Jun 1, 2008 5:35 PM

If even half of that comes to fruition it will put UTSA to shame.

oldmanshirt Jun 1, 2008 6:34 PM

When I first read the 30 year time frame, I was a bit incredulous, but now that I think about it, having the development spread out over many years will ensure that each piece is carefully crafted and given individual consideration, while still blending with the whole. Because of this, we won't be seeing any of that "fake downtown" look that plagues so many of these mixed-use developments. This will be more like an actual, functioning city, especially if the commuter rail is extended down there. I think its very telling that they're using Harvard/Cambridge as a model for this.

jaga185 Jun 1, 2008 8:08 PM

Yeah, I forgot that, thanks S.A.

alexjon Jun 1, 2008 8:28 PM

And since there's so many schools, we'll have nice frequency on ASA Rail so this may be a good place you can ditch your car on every day but Sunday.

sirkingwilliam Jun 1, 2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanshirt (Post 3587123)
When I first read the 30 year time frame, I was a bit incredulous, but now that I think about it, having the development spread out over many years will ensure that each piece is carefully crafted and given individual consideration, while still blending with the whole. Because of this, we won't be seeing any of that "fake downtown" look that plagues so many of these mixed-use developments. This will be more like an actual, functioning city, especially if the commuter rail is extended down there. I think its very telling that they're using Harvard/Cambridge as a model for this.

The 30 year time frame is an estimation geared more towards the population of the school and not really the development. I'm hearing a great deal of the north section of Verano will be finished by 2015. The southern and southeastern (the development around the lake) will be built as the school grows and how soon it's finished will depend on demand for housing.

oldmanshirt Jun 2, 2008 1:24 AM

^^^Good point.

Architect2010 Jun 2, 2008 1:29 AM

Hmmmm. Very nice. Too bad every university doesn't get something like this! =P This is massive!

zaphod Jun 2, 2008 1:39 AM

Imagine if UT arlington was built like this?

anyways, hopefully 30 years from now this will be an incredible place.

satxgreen Jun 2, 2008 1:41 AM

whats the website???????????

JACKinBeantown Jun 2, 2008 3:30 AM

TAMUSA (tam ooh suh)

KevinFromTexas Jun 2, 2008 4:34 AM

Looks nice.

Paul in S.A TX Jun 4, 2008 6:59 AM

Omg! Wow!

verbl Jun 16, 2008 12:15 AM

Amazing!!!!:d

miaht82 Aug 13, 2008 1:46 PM

Looks like the earliest ground will break is 2010 since they were 100 full-time students shy of meeting the quota to kick in the state funding of $40 million. Oh well. Patience everyone.
Story in the bizjournal.

sakyle04 Oct 7, 2008 1:20 PM

E-N story about A&M "marching" towards the new campus, including a "a yet-to-be-designed “iconic building” to define the new university"... There is also a HUGE graphic showing the detailed first phase of construction...

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...d_reality.html

tgannaway89 Oct 7, 2008 7:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miaht82 (Post 3732474)
Looks like the earliest ground will break is 2010 since they were 100 full-time students shy of meeting the quota to kick in the state funding of $40 million. Oh well. Patience everyone.
Story in the bizjournal.

I think this story was printed in error. They weren't 100 short of the 1,500 full-time student mark. They had 1,400 students total (PT and FT), but under 900 are full-time. They still need another 600 full-time students (or get current students to enroll FT) before the funding kicks in.

sirkingwilliam Oct 8, 2008 6:55 AM

Amazinnnnnnng!
 
It's amazing.

Here's the full TAM-SA presentation by both Marmon Mak and Sasaki.



Honestly, this blows away UTSA's main campus without question. :yes: :yes:

People are also forgetting about the Verano development that is planned for the area just north of the campus between the main entrance and the main campus. You can see it in picture 2.

tgannaway89 Oct 8, 2008 3:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam (Post 3845435)
It's amazing.

Here's the full TAM-SA presentation by both Marmon Mak and Sasaki.



Honestly, this blows away UTSA's main campus without question. :yes: :yes:

People are also forgetting about the Verano development that is planned for the area just north of the campus between the main entrance and the main campus. You can see it in picture 2.

UTSA has a good half-century on this project. UTSA will be capping enrollment soon and it will be difficult to attend. They will also build "east campus" which will be dedicated to graduate studies. In fact the entire 600-acre 1604 campus, 125 acre athletics park, and Downtown campuses will probably be entirely developed. It will take decades for A&M SA to build out to a decent 4-year university. By that time UTSA will have been tier 1 for a while I doubt many of us will even be living in SA when this school becomes what many today hope it will.

satxgreen Oct 8, 2008 4:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tgannaway89 (Post 3845889)
UTSA has a good half-century on this project. UTSA will be capping enrollment soon and it will be difficult to attend. They will also build "east campus" which will be dedicated to graduate studies. In fact the entire 600-acre 1604 campus, 125 acre athletics park, and Downtown campuses will probably be entirely developed. It will take decades for A&M SA to build out to a decent 4-year university. By that time UTSA will have been tier 1 for a while I doubt many of us will even be living in SA when this school becomes what many today hope it will.

http://www.utsa.edu/ofpd/1604%20mast...ast_campus.jpg

Dose any have any info on East campus??

sirkingwilliam Oct 8, 2008 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tgannaway89 (Post 3845889)
UTSA has a good half-century on this project. UTSA will be capping enrollment soon and it will be difficult to attend. They will also build "east campus" which will be dedicated to graduate studies. In fact the entire 600-acre 1604 campus, 125 acre athletics park, and Downtown campuses will probably be entirely developed. It will take decades for A&M SA to build out to a decent 4-year university. By that time UTSA will have been tier 1 for a while I doubt many of us will even be living in SA when this school becomes what many today hope it will.

Living in SA or alive?

They're saying 15-20 years for total build out. I don't know about many of you, but I'll be in my mid to late forties at that point so I will most certainly be alive and I will most certainly be living in SA.

oldmanshirt Oct 8, 2008 9:57 PM

I plan on being alive then, but just in case I'm not I'll arrange to have myself buried in SA :tup:

miaht82 Feb 24, 2009 2:20 PM

A&M to break ground on South Side campus
 
from mysa.com
Quote:

Texas A&M University System is breaking ground Friday on the gateway to a future Texas A&M-San Antonio campus on the city’s South Side.

Construction will begin soon on University Way, the main boulevard, and a gateway leading into the future campus. The ceremony will start at 10 a.m. on the frontage road of Loop 410 between Zarzamora Street and Moursund Boulevard. State, county and local officials are expected to attend.
I drive by there every now and then and it looks as if it is really a go; the exit and on ramp are complete. A road is a good start. Yantis is building it out. Hopefully they can stick to the "almost" grid-like pattern that is needed to fully incorporate a pedestrian friendly area. Also minimize the roadside entrances to make better use for sidewalks.

jaga185 Feb 24, 2009 5:54 PM

They are building it?!? Did they reach enrollment? This is exciting.

tgannaway89 Feb 24, 2009 6:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 4107291)
They are building it?!? Did they reach enrollment? This is exciting.

It doesn't mention anything about reaching enrollment in the posted story. Perhaps they are trying to get basic infrastructure out of the way so they can work more quickly once they get the green light from the state? :shrug:

oldmanshirt Feb 24, 2009 6:12 PM

Just the road, right?

miaht82 Feb 24, 2009 7:40 PM

Yes, just the road. The road is just as important though; Brooks would already have the new SE Baptist Hospital built had there been proper infastructure there. Which reminds me, the new TB hospital is getting worked on now across SE Military here at the TCID.

oldmanshirt Feb 24, 2009 9:05 PM

Sorry Miaht, I wasn't trying to poo-poo the importance of the road, just trying to note exactly what is and isn't breaking ground here.

So you say the new hospital has broken ground? That's exciting, there needs to be a landmark on the SE side as folks drive up I-37 :yes:

tgannaway89 Feb 27, 2009 7:57 AM

Gov. Perry attends ground-breaking and new renderings.

miaht82 Mar 10, 2009 8:48 PM

Construction of A&M campus to start in fall
 
story here.

....
Quote:

The university broke ground Feb. 27 on University Way, the road that will serve as the campus’ main entrance from the Loop 410 frontage road.University spokesman Marilu Reyna said a groundbreaking event for the new building would occur in the fall and completion would take up to 24 months. Many area residents will be afforded job opportunities during and after the building’s construction.

Once complete, Reyna said officials project that TAMUSA will enroll 1,500 full-time students, who will have their pick of 24 undergraduate and 16 master’s degree programs. The university hopes to eventually have 25,000 students enrolled there.

necropolis May 13, 2009 6:51 PM

Now let's hope this bill doesn't get vetoed so we can start a on new University in SA . I hope this gets signed off cause I really wanna see something like this happen for the southside now and not have to wait any longer than it should


Texas A&M-San Antonio bill OK'd

By Melissa Ludwig - Express-News

The Texas Legislature on Wednesday passed a bill that would immediately free up $40 million in tuition revenue bonds to build a standalone Texas A&M-San Antonio campus on the South Side.

The bill lowers the full-time enrollment threshold from 1,500 to 1,000, a goal the seed campus hit this spring, triggering that money. The law would also promote the seed campus, currently a system center run by Texas A&M-Kingsville, into an independent university.

“I feel like (late) Sen. Frank Madla is looking down from heaven and he is seeing the dream that started on a paper napkin at a little restaurant come to fruition,” said Maria Ferrier, director of the seed campus. Before his 2006 death in a house fire, Madla was a tireless proponent of the A&M campus.

The bill now goes to Gov. Rick Perry, who vetoed a similar bill in 2007, citing concerns about waste.

According to guidelines set by the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board, building out a full-service university with fewer than 3,500 students is inefficient.

But lawmakers, eager to build new universities in their home districts, have whittled that number down over the years.

In addition to San Antonio, the bill helps a Texas A&M campus in Killeen and a University of North Texas campus in Dallas.

Rep. Joe Farias, who helped sponsor the bill, said he is relieved the bill passed and hopeful that Perry will sign it.

“I think he is truly supportive and I feel he understands the need for the university in San Antonio,” Farias said

tgannaway89 May 13, 2009 9:58 PM

Anyone heard over quality over quantity?

Instead of funding expansions and trying to help UTSA reach tier 1 status we are going to pull funds for a new univrsity. I really don't think we CAN support 2 state universities now or in the forseeable future. This city doesn't support UTSA enough as is and this new university will only slow that down.

I don't know what could have changed Gov. Perry's mind (surely he's not trying to buy votes for the 2010 election), but I still think this is ineficient spending.

I can only imagine if Austin turned their back on making UT a tier 1 school and used that monies to build various other universities across the city.

miaht82 May 13, 2009 11:13 PM

I think UTSA will be okay.
The support can only grow at this point, the steam has been picking up over the years. It is not a huge jump, but over time the support will be there. I think that competition fuels support.
I also think they are getting funding and support is there for them to reach tier-1 status. Story here...

necropolis May 26, 2009 4:57 AM

Perry signs bill to kick start Texas A&M-San Antonio
 
Looks Like A&M SA is finally a go...

MYSA.com

Gov. Rick Perry signed a law Saturday that would allow the Texas A&M System to draw down $40 million in tuition revenue bonds to start building a permanent campus for Texas A&M-San Antonio. Right now, the system is operating a seed campus in San Antonio under the auspices of Texas A&M-Kingsville.

This spring, enrollment at the system center hit 1,000 full-time students, short of the 1,500 needed to receive the $40 million.

The law Perry signed lowered that threshold to 1,000, allowing the campus to declare its independence from Kingsville and start building a permanent home for the new university.


http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...n_Antonio.html

miaht82 Sep 2, 2009 7:49 PM

Texas A&M-San Antonio asking city to decide mascot, colors
 
Time to vote...

From Bizjournals.com

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Texas A&M University-San Antonio is asking the local community to help decide the new campus’ official mascot and school colors.

The university is in the process of developing its first full-fledged campus in South San Antonio, culminating years worth of work by local leaders to gain the first four-year institution of higher learning on the South Side.

The university has set up two Web sites (www.tamuk.edu/sanantonio/mascot.asp, www.tamuk.edu/sanantonio/colors.asp) to accept online votes. Voting is open until Sept. 8. Students, faculty and staff participated in a selection process to narrow down 2,000 suggestions for a mascot and school colors. The community is asked to choose from the Defenders, the Lobos, Toros and the Jaguars. The school color choices are black, dark blue and maroon.

The Texas Legislature in 2009 voted to establish the Texas A&M San Antonio campus as a separate, stand-alone university. It previously functioned as an extension campus of Texas A&M-Kingsville.

Texas A&M University-San Antonio will unveil the winning selections at an official ceremony later this fall.


jaga185 Sep 2, 2009 9:34 PM

I voted for the Jaguars with Black, Maroon/Silver as the colors. I was wondering what kind of mascot and colors they would choose.

tgannaway89 Sep 2, 2009 10:51 PM

I voted Toros. I like the sound of "TAMSA Toros". :notacrook:

For colors I voted maroon and silver. Black and silver would match the Spurs, and the blue would be too similar to UTSA.

miaht82 Sep 21, 2009 1:19 PM

Kell Muñoz, Bartlett Cocke picked to design/build first A&M campus building
 
Kell Muñoz, Bartlett Cocke picked to design/build first A&M campus building
San Antonio Business Journal

The Texas A&M University System selected architectural firm Kell Muñoz Inc. as the designer of Texas A&M University-San Antonio’s first building on campus.

San Antonio-based Kell Muñoz will design a multi-purpose building that will house classrooms, computer labs, a library, meeting space, food services, a bookstore and common area. The facilities will be equipped with state-of-the-art technology and wireless Internet.

Bartlett Cocke General Contractors has been named the construction management at risk firm. Bartlett Cocke also is a local firm with 50 years of experience in San Antonio building educational facilities. The company has more than $2.5 billion worth of construction management at risk construction experience.

Design work will begin immediately and construction is slated to start during the Spring of 2010 on the 640-acre site that will comprise the new South San Antonio campus.

miaht82 Mar 26, 2010 10:38 PM

Rendering for new TAMUSA building
 
Well Spring 2010 is here....
and here is the rendering.
Construction is set to start next month.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2697/...68219157_o.jpg

necropolis Mar 26, 2010 11:47 PM

Though the design could have been slightly better I believe it's still a good looking building for the campus. My major gripe w/ UTSA is that the buildings built there recently have no sense, no meaning to them. Those buldings aren't the kind you see 80-100 years later. This building, however, sorta seems like it can be a long lasting building. I like that they plan to keep green space in front to make it sorta like a meeting place or just a plce to take in some sun. I'm excited for this to go up and eventually have a full grown campus on the southside.

sirkingwilliam Mar 27, 2010 3:36 AM

That is a very nice building considering its the first building for a new four year university on the South side. It's also 100 times nicer as a starter building then what UTSA started with, for sure.

ydoc14 Mar 27, 2010 4:13 PM

It looks like an old high school...

jaga185 Mar 28, 2010 3:18 AM

I like it, although it could use a sort of ornament at the top ofthe center tower-esque thing

Sigaven Apr 4, 2010 5:21 PM

It was a nice design until they decided to use that horrid ugly brick. At lease use some accent relief colors...come on.

oldmanshirt Apr 5, 2010 2:08 AM

Its only one building though, and not even the admin building, so I doubt its going to be the epitome of on-campus architecture. Some kind of landmark spire or tower would be a good idea for a future building though, that's something that UTSA definitely lacks. From 1604 you can't even tell that its a university. Since TAMU-SA is kind of hidden from view from 410 something with a little height would be nice to define the campus.

necropolis Nov 12, 2010 6:18 AM

Well the first building at A&M SA is topped out

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Xv2psARHFFI/TN...us-%282%29.jpg
c/o mysa.com

It also looks like a second building is looking to be funded.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...107390873.html

At Texas A&M-San Antonio, the school is building its first permanent building with $40 million in tuition revenue bonds, but will need a second building right away, spokeswoman Marilu Reyna said. At 3,120 students and growing, the school is already larger than Trinity University and Our Lady of the Lake University, which have full-sized campuses.
“The bottom line is to catch up with the growth. It is critical that we have that second building,” Reyna said.

FastFerrari82 Nov 15, 2010 2:58 AM

I was woundering about the building/campous and Im glad to see that its on the up and up. This will help growth along the 410 south area so much. Just think in 5 years or so it could have 6-7 thousand students!:cheers:


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