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M II A II R II K Apr 11, 2008 11:32 AM

CHICAGO | Miglin Beitler Skyneedle | 2,000 FT / 610 M | 125 FLOORS | NEVER BUILT
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miglin-Beitler_Skyneedle

The Miglin-Beitler Skyneedle was a proposed 125-floor skyscraper intended for Chicago, United States by Lee Miglin and J. Paul Beitler. The site of the proposed Skyneedle now is host to a parking garage. However, across the street (Wells Street) from the parking garage is another César Pelli project, 181 West Madison Street, which reportedly inspired the general design of the Skyneedle. Visually the upper floors of the Skyneedle do appear to be similar to a stretched 181 W Madison.

The Miglin-Beitler Skyneedle was designed by César Pelli, who also designed the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur. If it had been built in 1988, the Miglin-Beitler Skyneedle would have been the tallest building in the world. The Petronas Towers have an obvious design reference, with the exception of having round floorplates as opposed to square ones.

http://archiv.neviditelnypes.zpravy....itek/0805b.jpg

M II A II R II K Apr 11, 2008 11:34 AM

I would have to say that of all the cancelled projects it's too bad that this one didn't make it.

The first gulf war I believe is partially to blame for that.

BVictor1 Apr 11, 2008 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K (Post 3477746)
I would have to say that of all the cancelled projects it's too bad that this one didn't make it.

The first gulf war I believe is partially to blame for that.

That and the overbuilding and credit crunch of the late 80's and early 90's.

cbotnyse Apr 11, 2008 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 3478053)
That and the overbuilding and credit crunch of the late 80's and early 90's.

sounds like much of the same today. :sly: Looks like we've come full circle in 20 years.

BVictor1 Apr 11, 2008 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cbotnyse (Post 3478058)
sounds like much of the same today. :sly: Looks like we've come full circle in 20 years.

Yes and no. During that round, we didn't have any supertalls built, now there are 3 under construction.

That crisis didn't last and neither will this one.

Nowhereman1280 Apr 11, 2008 4:30 PM

^^^ Well AT&T is technically a supertall and, depending on if you go with 300m or 1000' so is 2pru...

cbotnyse Apr 11, 2008 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 3478126)
Yes and no. During that round, we didn't have any supertalls built, now there are 3 under construction.

That crisis didn't last and neither will this one.

I think this credit crisis is much deeper, but our boom seems to holding up with few casualties so far. Also, fuel prices are more than double what they were in the 90s. We are in difficult times, but my fingers are crossed.

Ducov Apr 15, 2008 7:32 PM

Really like this one, shame in never got built. It wasn't just the appearance that inspired the petronas, but also the then new core and outrigger concrete system, designed specifically for the project (due to it's narrowness) that was later used on the Petronas Towers

spyguy Apr 15, 2008 8:09 PM

Probably my favorite never built supertall in Chicago. Reminds me of something you'd see in Gotham City.

Patrick Apr 15, 2008 11:56 PM

Yeah Its a shame not to see this one make it, however I would have preferred this over 7 South Dearborn, too bad neither were built, this was the classier one.

http://archiv.neviditelnypes.zpravy....itek/0805b.jpg

Lost Island Apr 16, 2008 2:16 AM

In over 5 years here, I've somehow missed that this proposal was from the '80s. This is from around the same time as Trump's Television City in New York, then. It's hard to believe that in all the the big '80s excess, no one ever got one of these superscrapers up.

Fabb Apr 17, 2008 11:12 AM

Nice design, very poor location.
The skyline would have been spectacular though.

Jibba Apr 17, 2008 8:09 PM

I don't know, height is really the only redeeming attribute of this building for me. Well, it is very classy looking I guess, and with Pelli at the helm I'm sure the details would have been sophisticated and very graceful. The set-back scheme is just too awkward for me, though; there are just too many of them and the relative proportions of them make the building look more squat than 2,000 ft. should look. Can't say I'm all that upset this was never built, but I could just be bitter that it never happened and I am rationalizing my distaste for it out of spite :) .

Stratosphere Apr 22, 2008 12:39 AM

Large scans for your viewing pleasure.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ings/m-b_1.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...ings/m-b_2.jpg

SportsWorld Jun 5, 2008 2:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Stratosphere (Post 3500794)

WOW, just WOW. This building would have looked amazing! :(

canucklehead2 Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM

I can't remember but what if anything was built on the site? I think it was a parking garage right? So maybe we might just see this tower rise into the Chicago skyline at some point...

Personally I'd love to see 7 South Dearborn, MB Skyneedle, Chicago Spire and maybe P-2000 eventually built, although I know in the latter's case a new building was just put up...

ethereal_reality Jun 5, 2008 5:02 PM

The best thing about this proposal was it's height.

The design reminds me of the 1925 Larkin Tower proposal for NYC.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1...sal1925gg9.jpg
Larkin Tower, 1,208 ft. Pretty much unimaginative.

JDRCRASH Jun 5, 2008 5:40 PM

Yeah, Miglin Beitler Skyneedle was a gorgeous proposal.

mthq Jun 9, 2008 1:53 AM

I don't like. It reminds me of a 1930s proposal you'd find in New York. That, and it's way too tall for my liking.

BVictor1 Jun 15, 2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mthq (Post 3601316)
I don't like. It reminds me of a 1930s proposal you'd find in New York. That, and it's way too tall for my liking.

The words too tall and Chicago don't mix well.


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