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KevinFromTexas Jun 13, 2012 4:30 AM

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Originally Posted by plinko (Post 5732272)
^I knew there was something wrong with that skyline rendering. 388ft?

Yeah, it was confusing. I think the condo towers will be slightly taller by what the renderings show. And I counted 33 floors for them. That hotel height was way off, too. I was thinking it would be around 300 feet, but it looks to be around 150 feet instead.

I wish they were taller. We'll have a view of them from our neighborhood, but just barely if they're 388 feet. 360 Condominiums sticks up nice from our neighborhood, and Frost is like a nightlight.

I love the density, though. That area of downtown is going to be incredible. They're also going to construct 2nd Street through that property. Right now 2nd Street dead ends at San Antonio Street. Across the creek the city is also planning an 8 to 10-story central public library with a rooftop deck. Like I said, I cannot wait to see this area develop.

TGBinSD Jun 14, 2012 6:14 PM

i LOVE the density of this project. however, it's much shorter than originally proposed. it's also too box-y for my liking. i would like to see more diversity in design, especially along the waterfront. i'm also not a fan of twins, especially along the waterfront. i'd rather they build one awesome tower now, then gradually add more great towers in the future. it's going to be awesome at street level, though. overall, i think it's a really nice proposal, but not for the waterfront. austin deserves better...just my 2 cents.

Jdawgboy Jun 14, 2012 9:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBinSD (Post 5734235)
i LOVE the density of this project. however, it's much shorter than originally proposed. it's also too box-y for my liking. i would like to see more diversity in design, especially along the waterfront. i'm also not a fan of twins, especially along the waterfront. i'd rather they build one awesome tower now, then gradually add more great towers in the future. it's going to be awesome at street level, though. overall, i think it's a really nice proposal, but not for the waterfront. austin deserves better...just my 2 cents.

Im hoping that at the time of construction, one or more of those buildings will be taller than what is planned now. They had been stressing that each building would be at minimum 30 floors each which means that they could have more floors when all is said and done when they break ground.

MightyYoda Jun 15, 2012 6:04 PM

Based on the time table for when they want to get started and how many apartment complexes are getting under construction ASAP. I actually think this will switch back to a condo model. It really only makes sense for them to say a minimum of 30 floors if that is their apartment model and they are still monitoring the markets to see if they will go back to adding condos. There are no other condo's currently slated for construction though projects can easily switch between condo and apartment without a ton of hassle. Seems like doing lower floors apartments and adding more floors to make room for condos would work best for this project when projecting 2 years out.

The ATX Jun 15, 2012 6:29 PM

Even though there are a lot of rental towers in the works, the overall number of units isn't that much over the next few years considering the current shortage and the fact that the population is increasing by 60,000 to 70,0000 each year.

KevinFromTexas Jul 17, 2012 6:49 PM

Green Water building heights!
 
I emailed Gensler to get the building heights for GreenWater, which is the official name by the way. The individual buildings, however, do not have official names yet. So they're calling them by their block number.

GreenWater | Block 23 Office
419 feet to the rooftop box
379 feet to the mechanical penthouse
349 feet to the main roof
28 floors
566,074 gross square feet
524,143 usable square feet

GreenWater | Block 1 Residential
412 feet 6 inches to the rooftop box
388 feet 6 inches to the main roof
110 feet to the podium
141 feet to the taller portion of the podium.
38 floors
682,120 gross square feet
531,700 usable square feet

GreenWater | Block 185 Residential
410 feet to the rooftop box
380 feet to the main roof
110 feet to the podium
39 floors
436,975 gross square feet
336,600 usable square feet

GreenWater | Block 188 Hotel
234 feet to the mechanical penthouse (highest architectural point).
219 feet to the main roof
19 floors
245,643 square feet (Not sure which this is).

Click for site plan


Click for aerial site plan/map

GoldenBoot Jul 20, 2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 3575768)
H20,

Yeah, I meant to say the Museum Tower is the AMOA block. The Intel site is where the new federal courthouse is going.

As for those two buildings I mentioned, you were right, at least about the residential building. I went back and looked at the diagram that Stratus had included in their presentation. The 292 foot building is a residential building. The 257 foot building is a hotel though. The 223 foot building must be the office building. That building isn't shown in the skyline rendering. It's immediately north of the 425 foot building. One of the renderings above shows it with 360 Condominiums.



Here is the diagram.
http://pic15.picturetrail.com/VOL630.../318376726.jpg

WOW...the 830' 6th & Brazos (T. Stacy's) tower seems only 20'-30' taller than the 683'-tall Austonian...

GoldenBoot Jul 20, 2012 10:57 PM

I'm "okay" with the plan if they actually construct buildings identical to the ones presented in the pdf.

KevinFromTexas Jul 21, 2012 1:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoot (Post 5772391)
WOW...the 830' 6th & Brazos (T. Stacy's) tower seems only 20'-30' taller than the 683'-tall Austonian...

Remember that there were two different designs and two different heights for T. Stacy's project. The taller (current?) one was 830 feet with 70 floors, while the one shown in that drawing was announced as 705 feet tall with 47 floors.

nixcity Jul 21, 2012 1:49 AM

I'm sorry, but this is a complete failure to me. What is fronting Cesar Chavez is atrocious and I'm more than tired of the huge boxy podiums and although the "crowns" look sweet, just slapping them on top of yet another rectangular prism doesn't do it for me. They are also way to short and due to the fact they are all about the same height it really flattens out the skyline. The office building looks great though, it can stay, lol. And there are a few little nice touches but overall this gets a C- at best compared to an A for their original plan or that of Stratus. City Council, this property is way to valuable to do this!!!!

GoldenBoot Jul 23, 2012 5:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 5772513)
Remember that there were two different designs and two different heights for T. Stacy's project. The taller (current?) one was 830 feet with 70 floors, while the one shown in that drawing was announced as 705 feet tall with 47 floors.

The taller proposal is the "current" one. However, not sure if it will ever be built on Tom's watch.

KevinFromTexas Sep 9, 2012 4:50 AM

Projected start: early 2013

Sigaven Jan 25, 2013 8:07 PM

Is Gensler the architect for the winning proposal?

KevinFromTexas Jan 25, 2013 8:57 PM

Yes.

wwmiv Jan 25, 2013 9:54 PM

Looking back at the linked article a few posts above by Kevin, do we we have an updated start date for Seaholm? The article said late 2012, but obviously that's passed. When, also, is the updated time frame for this (GreenWater) set of projects? If it were really early 2013, we'd be hearing alot more about it already.

KevinFromTexas Aug 18, 2013 7:10 AM

New rendering for the Block 1 residential tower in this development. This one is 413 feet with 38 floors. Supposedly it's going to break ground before the end of the year.

As for the design, I'm thinking this one will have to grow on me. I'm not sure about it, yet.

This building, and a planned twin to the west (left) will front the river and will be very prominent buildings on the skyline.

http://i.imgur.com/K8YakwO.jpg

wwmiv Aug 18, 2013 7:12 AM

While I love the building (as I posted in the dedicated thread), I really cannot stand twins unless they're in a massive skyline and are not prominent. I hope to death they do not build twins. I want something totally different in the other lot.

JACKinBeantown Aug 18, 2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6236345)
New rendering for the Block 1 residential tower in this development. This one is 413 feet with 38 floors. Supposedly it's going to break ground before the end of the year.

As for the design, I'm thinking this one will have to grow on me. I'm not sure about it, yet.

This building, and a planned twin to the west (left) will front the river and will be very prominent buildings on the skyline.

http://i.imgur.com/K8YakwO.jpg

Ugh. Austin has been getting some average buildings lately. Too bad. This certainly doesn't reflect the flavor of the city.

At least it will block the view of the W from the east.

wwmiv Aug 18, 2013 11:52 PM

The fact that you don't like the W speaks volumes about your architectural taste.

JACKinBeantown Aug 19, 2013 1:58 AM

Yes. Yes, it does.

And I meant that it will block the view of the W from the west. My apologies.


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