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I wish they were taller. We'll have a view of them from our neighborhood, but just barely if they're 388 feet. 360 Condominiums sticks up nice from our neighborhood, and Frost is like a nightlight. I love the density, though. That area of downtown is going to be incredible. They're also going to construct 2nd Street through that property. Right now 2nd Street dead ends at San Antonio Street. Across the creek the city is also planning an 8 to 10-story central public library with a rooftop deck. Like I said, I cannot wait to see this area develop. |
i LOVE the density of this project. however, it's much shorter than originally proposed. it's also too box-y for my liking. i would like to see more diversity in design, especially along the waterfront. i'm also not a fan of twins, especially along the waterfront. i'd rather they build one awesome tower now, then gradually add more great towers in the future. it's going to be awesome at street level, though. overall, i think it's a really nice proposal, but not for the waterfront. austin deserves better...just my 2 cents.
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Based on the time table for when they want to get started and how many apartment complexes are getting under construction ASAP. I actually think this will switch back to a condo model. It really only makes sense for them to say a minimum of 30 floors if that is their apartment model and they are still monitoring the markets to see if they will go back to adding condos. There are no other condo's currently slated for construction though projects can easily switch between condo and apartment without a ton of hassle. Seems like doing lower floors apartments and adding more floors to make room for condos would work best for this project when projecting 2 years out.
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Even though there are a lot of rental towers in the works, the overall number of units isn't that much over the next few years considering the current shortage and the fact that the population is increasing by 60,000 to 70,0000 each year.
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Green Water building heights!
I emailed Gensler to get the building heights for GreenWater, which is the official name by the way. The individual buildings, however, do not have official names yet. So they're calling them by their block number.
GreenWater | Block 23 Office 419 feet to the rooftop box 379 feet to the mechanical penthouse 349 feet to the main roof 28 floors 566,074 gross square feet 524,143 usable square feet GreenWater | Block 1 Residential 412 feet 6 inches to the rooftop box 388 feet 6 inches to the main roof 110 feet to the podium 141 feet to the taller portion of the podium. 38 floors 682,120 gross square feet 531,700 usable square feet GreenWater | Block 185 Residential 410 feet to the rooftop box 380 feet to the main roof 110 feet to the podium 39 floors 436,975 gross square feet 336,600 usable square feet GreenWater | Block 188 Hotel 234 feet to the mechanical penthouse (highest architectural point). 219 feet to the main roof 19 floors 245,643 square feet (Not sure which this is). Click for site plan Click for aerial site plan/map |
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I'm "okay" with the plan if they actually construct buildings identical to the ones presented in the pdf.
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I'm sorry, but this is a complete failure to me. What is fronting Cesar Chavez is atrocious and I'm more than tired of the huge boxy podiums and although the "crowns" look sweet, just slapping them on top of yet another rectangular prism doesn't do it for me. They are also way to short and due to the fact they are all about the same height it really flattens out the skyline. The office building looks great though, it can stay, lol. And there are a few little nice touches but overall this gets a C- at best compared to an A for their original plan or that of Stratus. City Council, this property is way to valuable to do this!!!!
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Is Gensler the architect for the winning proposal?
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Yes.
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Looking back at the linked article a few posts above by Kevin, do we we have an updated start date for Seaholm? The article said late 2012, but obviously that's passed. When, also, is the updated time frame for this (GreenWater) set of projects? If it were really early 2013, we'd be hearing alot more about it already.
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New rendering for the Block 1 residential tower in this development. This one is 413 feet with 38 floors. Supposedly it's going to break ground before the end of the year.
As for the design, I'm thinking this one will have to grow on me. I'm not sure about it, yet. This building, and a planned twin to the west (left) will front the river and will be very prominent buildings on the skyline. http://i.imgur.com/K8YakwO.jpg |
While I love the building (as I posted in the dedicated thread), I really cannot stand twins unless they're in a massive skyline and are not prominent. I hope to death they do not build twins. I want something totally different in the other lot.
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At least it will block the view of the W from the east. |
The fact that you don't like the W speaks volumes about your architectural taste.
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Yes. Yes, it does.
And I meant that it will block the view of the W from the west. My apologies. |
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