[St. John's] Metro East End Development
 

This Thread is for development that is in the East End of Metro St. John's


Pleasantville Military Facility / Pleasantville Lands Development

Birds Eye View: http://www.bing.com/maps/default.asp...6429&encType=1

The federal government will invest roughly $100 million to construct a sprawling new multi-purpose facility at Pleasantville near Quidi Vidi Lake. Also, 64 acres at Pleasantville will be developed into a comprehensive residential and commercial area. Canada Lands Corp.'s plan will see about 960 residential units built, including single-family and multi-unit homes and hundreds of condominiums. The plan also includes two 10-storey towers that would be built in the NW section, also 3/4 & 6 storey multiple unit buildings, some with commercial/residential use. Upcoming major development.
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The development will include:
Single Family 45
Single Family (cottage) 23
Duplex Units 44
Townhouses 38
Multi Units (3 - 4 storeys) 286
Multi Units (6 storeys) 120
Multi Units (10 storeys) 362
Mixed use residential 40
Assisted living Complex
Total units 958
Property (acres) 63.75
Commercial (sq m) 5800
Density (units/acre)15
Links to the plan, zoning changes, & Memorandum:
http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/PLEASANTV...0DISTRICTS.pdf
http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/PLEASANTV...20REZONING.pdf
http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/Planning&...ille_Jan27.pdf
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CFS Pleasantville Facility - Under Construction
Birds Eye View:http://www.bing.com/maps/default.asp...6440&encType=1
The facility will be located on The Boulevard, overlooking Quidi Vidi Lake. The main component of the project is a new four (4) storey building with a total floor area of approximately 23,750 square metres (or 255,567 sq ft) with access via The Boulevard. The building will have four levels @ 5 meter floor heights, the total building height at max will be approximately 21 meters on the Boulevard, with some of the structure set back into the grade, and will be about ~182 meters (600 ft) in length. Another smaller facility will be built as well, the Military Family Resource Centre. The main building's appearance will include some precast concrete, with predominant colours of grey and pale yellow. "The total site area is approximately 63,500 square metres. A large number of parking lots – 218 – will be provided for staff, reservists and the visiting public, while 135 oversized parking lots will comprise the new military vehicle parking area." Both buildings will be designed to achieve a LEED® Canada Silver Rating.

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Sources: http://www.stjohns.ca/csj/NewsDetails?id=175
Details of the project: http://www.stjohns.ca/cityservices/p...asantville.pdf
http://www.cdnmilitary.ca/index.php?p=132

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Long-term care homes, Pleasantville - Under Construction
The new four-storey complex, which is expected to encompass an area of approximately 37,000 square meters, will see two long-term care homes joined by a core building. The current design concept for the homes includes two main residential buildings joined by a shared core building. The two homes will include resident care units with 460 beds in total, and is to be built on the site of the present Janeway Apartments.

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Source, Government Release with renderings: http://www.releases.gov.nl.ca/releas...th/1123n03.htm

Tiffany Village Seniors Complex - Approved
Birds Eye View: http://www.bing.com/maps/default.asp...8723&encType=1

Proposed - A complex of apartments, condominiums and assisted living for seniors. Four buildings of ten stories, plus lowrise buildings, pinnacle heights of ten storey buildings, incl. mech penthouse is 32.7 m. at main entrance. Completion date of the whole project is listed as 2014.

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Source, with much more detail about the village:
http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/Tiffany_V...ry_13_2009.pdf

This is the Amended plan for Tiffany Estates and specifically Phase 2

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http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/...any%20Lane.pdf

Two 16 floor Condo buildings in Tiffany Estates.

(Much taken from http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=145930)

Hampton Inn & Suites, Stavanger Drive

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Source: http://www.mangahotels.com/newdevelopments.htm

International Place, Waterline Road, St. John's
Building Size: 46,000 sq. ft. newly developed office building

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http://www.youronlineagents.com/cwea....php?id=334262
http://www.youronlineagents.com/cwea...ut%20Sheet.pdf

Empire Theatres to Build New State-of-the-art Theatre Complex in St. John's, NL

Read more at:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/9114...n-st-john-s-nl

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http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/Aerial_Ph...enryStreet.pdf

Field Power Centre
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There is some re-zoning of land on Stavanger Drive.

http://www.stjohns.ca/csj/PubDetails?id=719

some more suburbia :sly:

Does anyone have any info on the office developments going in in the stavanger dr & major's path area?

Did know of any.

We had also discussed before about the industrial park area on Majors Path. We had a map of it I believe.

I find it interesting when you look at it there are actually 6, 10 story buildings proposed for the east end and in the pleasantville development it looks like both buildings have 2 towers, so if thats the case there could be 10 residential towers:
5 in the Tiffany village (4, 10 floors & one larger 9 floors)
4 in Pleasantville (10 floors)
as well as Kenny's pond (I know its not that tall but still has an urban presence)

(which has really gone overlooked in the overall development thread because of the other developments downtown)

There are some houses being built in Pleasantville at the moment, I believe they are affordable housing.

Found it

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http://www.youronlineagents.com/cwea...ut%20Sheet.pdf

What hotel and additional office buildings? .. this could become an interesting area and there is alot of land available there so it may really get built up

A hotel was approved for Stavanger a while back I believe. It's hard to remember what has been proposed or approved and it's even more difficult to find it in our original thread.

Here is the new Hampton Inn & Suites, Stavanger Drive.


Source: http://www.mangahotels.com/newdevelopments.htm

I wonder when they'll start building it, I don't think the land has been cleared yet.

Are we including the centre of the city in this thread? It's sometimes referred to the east end.

I always thought of Bonaventure Ave-Allendale Road as the dividing line between East and West, you might consider that unless you are going to have a Central thread, or include Central in downtown, and you have to think of how much will be going ahead in these areas. The main thread can still be used for general downtown & area developments, considering any big downtown developments will liikely have their own threads. I would take Military-Harvey-Lemarchant Roads as the Northern boundary for the downtown area. You could also include the Torbay area and other northern suburbs in the East End. I would include St Phillips-Port Cv in the west for this purpose, leaving the Airport area in the East. (Confusing? ... but it would make sense on a map).

This is not really a great map, but it is essentially what I was saying.



Other specific areas could be added later if it is felt they are required.

Here is some information on the development in Pleasantville.

There is a request for proposals on two blocks of land, seen here in the PDF link. I assume this is not where the affordable housing is being built.

http://www.clc.ca/properties/pleasantville

http://www.clc.ca/sites/default/file...012_fa_rev.pdf

In addition to the new DND building and Long term care complex, this development will completely transform Pleasentville... for the better that is :tup:

I'm happy to see they are getting started, so how does this work? they sell the lots and land with the idea of what will be built there and someone else builds it and sells it?

That what it seems like to me. I guess the CLC has a master design and ultimately dictates what type of houses can be built at each lot. The builders/contractors would be like a franchisee... I'm not sure if that's the best analogy.

I'm surprised that all of the recently proposed hotels have been in the 3* range. For a city of this size, it's surprising the the Hotel Newfoundland is the only 4* choice available (although it is a very good choice, in my opinion).

It's not the only choice. The Delta and Marriott are 4 star hotels and there are smaller hotels that would be 4 star and higher.

The Delta is 3.5* and the Marriott is 3* according to any travel website I've ever seen. Only Canada Select states otherwise, listing the Delta as 4*, the Marriott at 3.5* and the Sheraton at 4.5*. At any rate, I was only talking about hotels, and there is still a definite gap in the luxury segment in this city. I don't think anybody would consider the Delta or the Marriott to be luxury hotels.

I guess their ratings all depend on the website.

There would not likely be enough demand for a large luxury hotel.

I don't think I'd consider the Hotel NFLD to be a luxury hotel either. I'd pick the Delta anyday. Maybe someone will eventually do something proper with the Barrtey Hotel (tear it down and build a luxury one there!)

On the Pleasantville development I was over there yesterday and there is lots of action on single family homes and on one of the larger development (Bennet??) It is going to be a great change for that area.

Once the DND building is complete are all the remaining old DND facilities on the site going to be demolished? There are only a few left and they are definitly the worst looking things in the area.

This is of the new long term care facility
These pictures were taken a few days ago, its kind of hard to show how large this building really is

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This is just one side of it you cant see the middle and the other side in this pic
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Photos taken by me

They've also started the framing of one of the office buildings off major's path

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I'm not sure if everyone else is having the same issue, but I can't view these pics...


**** Disregard this post, I can view the pictures now ***** :shrug:

Any updates on the DND building and/or Pleasentville project?

As well, although not posted on this thread, the RNC building on Harvey has been going through some significant renovations and expansion. If any one ventures around that area, it be great to get some snaps of the progress. :cheers:

I suppose I could do that sometime. I live a block away and can see it from my bedroom. :P

We did have something posted a long time ago, here is the rendering of it.

http://www.pbase.com/image/123986943.jpg
There is also a construction photo at this site.
Source: http://gibbonssnow.com/

And this should be in Central , not East End. ;)

Thanks Architype.... by the way, is there a central SJ thread in the works?

Just the main thread, no?

Right, just the main thread for anything that doesn't fit anywhere else.
I think it's ok to have some overlap, that seems to happen everywhere.

I noticed today that the ground has been cleared and site development is ongoing behind Boston Pizza on Stavanger Drive. That's the site of a new hotel development, isn't it?

I'm pretty sure, not much space though.

I just found a PDF of the Harvey Power Centre (Stavanger Drive/Aberdeen Ave extension). I think this may have been posted previously in the general thread, but I think it's a good idea re-post here.

http://www.comproperty.ca/powercentr...eyBrochure.pdf

If you look closely you'll see that GAP, Stokes, Golf-town, and Dollarama have retail units purchased here. I wonder if GAP is planning on moving its store from the Avalon Mall or opening another location. GAP also owns Banana Republic - it'd be great to get a BR in St. John's.

I haven't been in that area for a while now. Does anyone know the status of the HPC development?

How many Dollarama's does this city need? Jeeze :haha:

Cool...thanks for sharing. I agree that would be good to get a BR there. I think we are going to start seeing some infilling of the existing Stavanger Area. I've heard that new buildings are planning for the Zellers parking lot and I recently saw some geotechnical work going in out in front of Wal-Mart.

Yeah, really!?!?!?!?!

Below is a link to the Field Power Centre (adjacent to HPC). There are already a few lots sold next to the Empire Theatres site. There's also restaurant sites with only two lots remaining... interesting :yes:

http://www.comproperty.ca/powercentre/

The used car dealership onside of Dominion on Stavanger is being torn down, I don't know what the deal with that is because the building isn't very old.

As well, I've seen Banana Republic's in big box store developments in other cities but I can't remember ever seeing a Gap by itself. However, seeing it says Gap on the Remax page it probably is the Gap and not Banana Republic.

Yeah, it's probably is just another GAP... but you never know! As for the car dealership being torn down, apparently a new TD bank will be built there as discussed at city council meeting on April 2 (link below for your reading enjoyment).

http://www.stjohns.ca/upload/minutes...April22012.pdf

Starting to think all of this warrants a separate St. John's Retail thread.

That's a good idea. Moncton has a retail thread that's very active. I think a retail thread for St. John's would be very active as well.

That would be a great idea. It could encompass all retail, including the many stores of downtown, both current and upcoming (there honestly seems to be a new coffee shop/espresso bar downtown every week)

Was down on Stavanger Drive today and noticed they have finally cleared all of the land next to Boston Pizza. I think that's where the Hampton Inn is scheduled to go.

Quidi Vidi Condos in the Works

Source: VOCM, April 23 2012

http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...22613&latest=1

Between the oil tanks and Country Ribbon it should be lovely. The Quidi Vidi Villagers will kick up a fuss about this, they didn't want Pleasantville developed.

Yup, the developers will definitely have a battle on their hands!

I believe this was also mentioned a few months ago, and it will be on the south side of the lake.

Location:
http://binged.it/JrRYue

They won't have any trouble selling condos at this location, they could build a much larger highrise and I'm sure it would still sell out.