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Fireoutofclay Oct 28, 2016 8:49 PM

Jorge Rodriguez-Gerada sculpture will overlook San Pedro Creek
By Elda L Silva, Staff Writer
mysanantonio.com
Updated 12:14 pm, Friday, October 28, 2016
http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertai...photo-11659229

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/54/36/37.../1024x1024.jpg

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Jorge Rodriguez-Gerada, a Cuban American artist who is currently based in Barcelona, Spain, has been commissioned to create a six-story sculpture that will be the centerpiece of the San Pedro Creek plaza. More than a hundred artists submitted their qualifications for the $735,000 project. Rodriguez-Gerada was selected from four finalists.

Titled “Plethora,” the aluminum sculpture depicts the face of a woman, facing south in the direction of the flow of the creek. The piece will be visible from Interstate 35.

Restless 1 Oct 28, 2016 10:58 PM

Now THIS is cool
 
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Originally Posted by Fireoutofclay (Post 7606471)
Jorge Rodriguez-Gerada sculpture will overlook San Pedro Creek
By Elda L Silva, Staff Writer
mysanantonio.com
Updated 12:14 pm, Friday, October 28, 2016
http://www.mysanantonio.com/entertai...photo-11659229

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/54/36/37.../1024x1024.jpg

We need more forward looking public art like this. :cheers:

kornbread Oct 29, 2016 2:58 AM

I agree. A really interesting piece. Not only the scale that will be visible from a distance, but look at the shadow it will cast. This will be a destination for people visiting.

AwesomeSAView Oct 29, 2016 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kornbread (Post 7606705)
I agree. A really interesting piece. Not only the scale that will be visible from a distance, but look at the shadow it will cast. This will be a destination for people visiting.


Also, this artist has a following of people worldwide, and they will be wanting to see his latest work here in San Antonio. :cheers:
It is a great, spectacular piece of public art for the city of San Antonio!:tup:

The Model Nov 4, 2016 4:53 AM

I like it too! Just wondering if it is placed in the right area. In this rendering the backdrop is the freeway intersection. If it faced the opposite direction it would have downtown as the backdrop. Just a thought.

kornbread Nov 4, 2016 6:02 AM

It seems like this sculpture is designed to work with the sunlight, and I would think placement is pretty important. The sculpture is essentially facing South, but if you look at Google maps and see the shadows cast by the downtown buildings, it looks like the setting sun would work well the way it is depicted.

I like the wall sculpture idea on the convention center, I just wish it had a more interesting subject matter than cactus. I do need to go by one day and have a closer look at that one.

Restless 1 Nov 4, 2016 4:58 PM

No you don't
 
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Originally Posted by kornbread (Post 7612505)
It seems like this sculpture is designed to work with the sunlight, and I would think placement is pretty important. The sculpture is essentially facing South, but if you look at Google maps and see the shadows cast by the downtown buildings, it looks like the setting sun would work well the way it is depicted.

I like the wall sculpture idea on the convention center, I just wish it had a more interesting subject matter than cactus. I do need to go by one day and have a closer look at that one.

The cactus is boring. I like the CC overall, but...that cactus...:yuck:

kornbread Nov 7, 2016 6:46 AM

That one is perplexing. The choice of cactus really feels like the artist spent no time in the city or even learning about it. Certainly, art doesn't have to be reflective of it's home, but with a convention center I would imagine there was some guidance to tie the art to place. This shows a plant that can pop up and thrive in the most extreme places. Is that it? It doesn't even look like native cacti.

Look at some of his other similar work (http://christianmoeller.com/) like "Pushing", "Baggage Handlers" or "Hands". it is much more interesting. There really is nothing very interesting with the external design of the convention center addition except for the lone entryway (which is going to funnel everyone through about 10 doors right next to each other :koko:). The artwork actually helps to take away the big-box retail feel to the building, but it could have been much more. This feels very safe. I'm wondering if other ideas/subjects were presented?

Keep-SA-Lame Nov 7, 2016 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kornbread (Post 7614892)
That one is perplexing. The choice of cactus really feels like the artist spent no time in the city or even learning about it. Certainly, art doesn't have to be reflective of it's home, but with a convention center I would imagine there was some guidance to tie the art to place. This shows a plant that can pop up and thrive in the most extreme places. Is that it? It doesn't even look like native cacti.

Look at some of his other similar work (http://christianmoeller.com/) like "Pushing", "Baggage Handlers" or "Hands". it is much more interesting. There really is nothing very interesting with the external design of the convention center addition except for the lone entryway (which is going to funnel everyone through about 10 doors right next to each other :koko:). The artwork actually helps to take away the big-box retail feel to the building, but it could have been much more. This feels very safe. I'm wondering if other ideas/subjects were presented?

I guess we're totally off topic now, but I walked by the front of the convention center this weekend and noticed that the cactus art is literally made out of chain link fencing (think like what schools do with plastic cups in their chain link fences to spell out words or make pictures, except they used something instead of plastic cups at the CC). So basically this big fancy new convention center is wrapped in chain link fencing. It looks incredibly tacky and cheap when viewed from the sidewalk.

kornbread Nov 7, 2016 4:25 PM

That seems similar to the one he did in San Jose. I hadn't considered what it looks like that close, but I can certainly see your point. On a parking garage it probably looks ok, but tacked on a building? It probably looks odd. I need to see this in person

SAtown Dec 5, 2016 11:44 PM

New renderings for this were included in the construction drawings at the HDRC meeting for this week.... I had a feeling that the tacky would creep back into this project... This is still significantly better than the original renderings, but they kept saying this was supposed to be a "Riverwalk for locals"... To me, it just comes off as a cheap imitation of the Riverwalk. See below link.

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...3-D911C8578ABC

SAhometown Dec 6, 2016 12:58 AM

oops wrong thread sorry..
 
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Restless 1 Dec 6, 2016 6:52 AM

Not sure what you want, but
 
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Originally Posted by SAtown (Post 7642723)
New renderings for this were included in the construction drawings at the HDRC meeting for this week.... I had a feeling that the tacky would creep back into this project... This is still significantly better than the original renderings, but they kept saying this was supposed to be a "Riverwalk for locals"... To me, it just comes off as a cheap imitation of the Riverwalk. See below link.

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...3-D911C8578ABC

Yeah, a couple of the renderings looks like drainage ditches with sidewalks, but the others look just fine. Not sure what you were hoping for, given the already existing infrastructure.

I also like the idea of the acequias running along the length. Hearkens back to when the indigenous peoples populated the area.

jaga185 Dec 8, 2016 8:58 PM

Delays, Rising Costs for San Pedro Creek Project

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Construction on the San Pedro Creek Improvements Project will begin next week, but the transformative effort is turning out to be more expensive and more time consuming than initially anticipated, officials said Thursday at a San Pedro Creek subcommittee meeting at the San Antonio River Authority offices.

A number of factors including design changes already put the project over budget in October, leading the County to up its financial commitment to the $175 million effort.

As of late, cost impacts have risen by 35%, due to the project’s fast tracked schedule as well as a lack of bidders for the project’s small work packages, River Authority Watershed Engineer Kerry Averyt told the subcommittee.

SAhometown Feb 8, 2017 8:17 PM

Artwork Galore!
 
God please let this happen!:slob:

https://therivardreport.com/artistic...n-pedro-creek/

jaga185 Feb 8, 2017 8:41 PM

That first picture is GORGEOUS!

RyanfromTexas Feb 9, 2017 4:31 AM

excited
 
https://therivardreport.com/wp-conte...7-1170x657.png
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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 7705729)
That first picture is GORGEOUS!


Fireoutofclay Jul 6, 2017 5:26 PM

moving along :)
 
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4254/...645976b9_c.jpg20170630_154910 by Fireoutofclay, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4132/...56c1b51f_c.jpg20170630_154832 by Fireoutofclay, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4216/...d8b2d9e6_c.jpg20170503_130332 by Fireoutofclay, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4015/...cb959d78_c.jpg20170705_172014 by Fireoutofclay, on Flickr

wwmiv Jul 6, 2017 7:16 PM

Beating a dead horse here, but this is going to be absolutely revolutionary for the core. Too bad most of the housing that will eventually spring up in the area will be out of my price range. After having lived the last three years in downtown Columbia on main street 4 blocks north of the state capitol building, I'd love to be able to afford to keep living in an urban environment but San Antonio just doesn't have that price point available.

jaga185 Jul 6, 2017 8:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 7856839)
Beating a dead horse here, but this is going to be absolutely revolutionary for the core. Too bad most of the housing that will eventually spring up in the area will be out of my price range. After having lived the last three years in downtown Columbia on main street 4 blocks north of the state capitol building, I'd love to be able to afford to keep living in an urban environment but San Antonio just doesn't have that price point available.

Off topic, but try refugio place, my roommate and i pay about $560 each for our 2bd2bth. :cheers:

Great pics, Fireoutofclay!

wwmiv Jul 6, 2017 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 7856911)
Off topic, but try refugio place, my roommate and i pay about $560 each for our 2bd2bth. :cheers:

Great pics, Fireoutofclay!

Too expensive. I was paying $780/month for a 1100 sq. ft. one bedroom.

SAtown Jul 11, 2017 2:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 7856974)
Too expensive. I was paying $780/month for a 1100 sq. ft. one bedroom.

$0.70/SF (what you were previously paying) is just too low to make sense for anyone to build, as so many of our apartment buildings are new construction and have to overcome the costs of construction today. One bedrooms at the Exchange Building are reasonable, but not 1100 SF for that price. You could also look at the Maverick Building. They have smaller one bedrooms within that price range.

Otherwise, you could get a roommate!

The Model Jul 11, 2017 5:18 PM

Any word out there if the Soapworks can be removed?
When taking pictures of the Frost Bank site last year that area was very shady at dusk.
I would feel a lot safer walking down the new creek without the soapworks being there.

jaga185 Jul 11, 2017 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Model (Post 7861725)
Any word out there if the Soapworks can be removed?
When taking pictures of the Frost Bank site last year that area was very shady at dusk.
I would feel a lot safer walking down the new creek without the soapworks being there.

Probably in the future. But there are no plans that we know of.

Fireoutofclay Jul 11, 2017 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Model (Post 7861725)
Any word out there if the Soapworks can be removed?
When taking pictures of the Frost Bank site last year that area was very shady at dusk.
I would feel a lot safer walking down the new creek without the soapworks being there.

Seems like a drastic solution just to "feel" safe.

txex06 Jul 14, 2017 12:34 AM

https://therivardreport.com/public-a...tory-military/

New art renderings for the creek.

The Model Aug 1, 2017 4:11 PM

[IMG]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4315/...d824c95b_b.jpgSan Pedro Creek Expansion by Raul Medina III, on Flickr[/IMG]

Finally got to go downtown!

jaga185 Aug 1, 2017 5:34 PM

I forget how shallow this waterway will be. But then i realize... it's a creek. lol

JACKinBeantown Aug 16, 2017 1:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 7881749)
I forget how shallow this waterway will be. But then i realize... it's a creek. lol

Looks like it'll be about 4 inches deep.

RyanfromTexas Aug 16, 2017 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 7894127)
Looks like it'll be about 4 inches deep.

what is this?? A school for Ants?

Fryguy Aug 16, 2017 4:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanfromTexas (Post 7894581)
what is this?? A school for Ants?

More like a stadium for ants.





Update: Oh, no! Here come the overly dramatic, melodramatic comments about how one's feelings have been hurt in some preposterous way or another. Or... Let's say on topic comments, as if we are talking about iPhones and not the topic with some opinion as to its size and providing related commentaries.

JACKinBeantown Aug 16, 2017 7:20 PM

I'm giving you both... Magnum.

RyanfromTexas Aug 16, 2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 7894910)
I'm giving you both... Magnum.

{like button}

but seriously, I didn't expect this to be so shallow. I wonder what the bottom of the creek will look like? Stone? Will it be clear water or brown? Time will tell

JACKinBeantown Aug 17, 2017 12:57 AM

My guess is that the rebar on the right is for a retaining wall that will hold up a sidewalk on its right several feet higher (at the top of the rebar) thus making the creek a few feet deep.

JACKinBeantown Aug 24, 2017 4:19 PM

They're putting in lots of retaining wall segments by the Frost Tower site. You can see it on the west-facing webcam (the one on the right).

https://app.oxblue.com/open/kdc/frostbank

jaga185 Aug 24, 2017 6:14 PM

I hope the Hurricane doesn't ruin too much of the work they've done this weekend.

JACKinBeantown Aug 25, 2017 2:53 AM

If it does, they didn't do it right.

deeger Aug 31, 2017 6:03 PM

[IMG]https://image.ibb.co/kNGTcQ/San_Pedro_flow.jpg[/IMG]

Progress as of a couple days ago.

Fireoutofclay Oct 9, 2017 3:50 PM

First segment of San Pedro Creek project should be ready for tricentennial
By Jasper Scherer, Staff Writer
October 4, 2017 Updated: October 6, 2017 10:08pm
expressnews.com
http://www.expressnews.com/news/loca...h-12252422.php

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“Once we broke ground and actually started construction, things have been going very well,” said Suzanne Scott, general manager of the San Antonio River Authority. “We’ve had some rain, but because of our preplanning, we were able to get back operating very soon after the rain. The things that typically cause delays in construction projects in a channel or creek, we’ve been able to manage that.”

The Model Oct 19, 2017 8:51 PM

[IMG]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4470/...08984697_b.jpgSan Pedro Creek Construction by Raul Medina III, on Flickr[/IMG]

AwesomeSAView Oct 20, 2017 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Model (Post 7958513)


COMING ALONG VERY NICELY........:cheers:

jaga185 Dec 20, 2017 8:00 PM

https://therivardreport.com/wp-conte..._12-2017-2.jpg

Amphitheater Plans Scrapped In Changes to San Pedro Creek Project

The Model Mar 1, 2018 5:20 AM

[IMG]https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4648/...670e3b89_b.jpgSan Pedro Creek Construction by Raul Medina III, on Flickr[/IMG]

Fryguy Mar 16, 2018 7:41 PM

Video update posted on website.

https://spcproject.org

My biggest concern about this project is how isolated it is from other outlets. It's not even a mile long. If it was connected to the Riverwalk, then I would be less concerned. In other words, because SA doesn't have a strong urban center, people have to drive to get to many parks, I, for one, wouldn't drive miles to walk a few blocks among a creek.

I am very happy about this project, however. It's nice to see downtown getting some attention. It will be beautiful and it is something downtown needs, badly. I am simply concerned it will be brushed off over time from a lack of foot traffic. This isn't going off the beaten path...from the River. This is walking (or driving) to then walk a few blocks around a concrete creek.

Spoiler Mar 16, 2018 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8122627)
Video update posted on website.

https://spcproject.org

My biggest concern about this project is how isolated it is from other outlets. It's not even a mile long. If it was connected to the Riverwalk, then I would be less concerned. In other words, because SA doesn't have a strong urban center, people have to drive to get to many parks, I, for one, wouldn't drive miles to walk a few blacks among a creek.

I am very happy about this project, however. It's nice to see downtown getting some attention. It will be beautiful and it is something downtown needs, badly. I am simply concerned it will be brushed off over time from a lack of foot traffic. This isn't going off the beat path...from the River. This is walking (or driving) to then walk a few blacks around a concrete creek. 🤔

What do you have against blacks exactly?

Also, as I'm sure you know, this is just one phase of a larger project that will be a few miles long and will connect to the Riverwalk.

Also, as I'm sure you know, this project was created as a way to make that part of downtown more attractive for business and residential development, so it may eventually be an important piece of urban fabric woven into the core of a vibrant downtown.

Fryguy Mar 16, 2018 8:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8122656)
What do you have against blacks exactly?

Also, as I'm sure you know, this is just one phase of a larger project that will be a few miles long and will connect to the Riverwalk.

Also, as I'm sure you know, this project was created as a way to make that part of downtown more attractive for business and residential development, so it may eventually be an important piece of urban fabric woven into the core of a vibrant downtown.

Dude, that was a typo. Don't make a race issue where there is none. It's not funny at all. Read the context!

Spoiler Mar 16, 2018 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fryguy (Post 8122706)
Dude, that was a typo. Don't make a race issue where there is none. It's not funny at all. Read the context!

Dude, it was two identical typos. But I was just joshin' :cheers:

TSK18 Mar 16, 2018 8:45 PM

delete

Fryguy Mar 16, 2018 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8122709)
Dude, it was two identical typos. But I was just joshin' :cheers:

For future reference, and to anyone on here, I write and work on my computer all day. When it comes to non work writing, though I shouldn't, I use my phone and I don't look back on most text. I'm not writing a book on buildings and San Antonio development. That is way too much work for something that isn't offical or part of my job.

jaga185 Mar 28, 2018 4:03 PM

The water in the creek today looks pretty cool from the Frost cam if anyone wants to take a peak at that.


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