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plinko Apr 26, 2008 12:58 AM

LOS ANGELES | Trump Wilshire - Ambassador | HEIGHT | 125 FLOORS | 1990 | NEVER BUILT
 
I remember as a kid being very excited at the prospect of the world's tallest building in LA. And of course it would not have been downtown, but in the Mid-Wilshire area. It would have been built on the site of the Ambassador Hotel, most notable for being the site of the RFK assassination. It would have been 1 block from the Wilshire/Normandie Metro station. I wonder if any of the other LA forumers have more info on this?

Source: Antelope Valley Press, April 15, 1990
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/W-AMB05.jpg

The article mentions the LAUSD wanting to take over the site, which they eventually did. The hotel was demolished in 2006, but I am unsure whether or not the new high school has opened on the site as of yet.

Richard Keating of SOM designed the winning scheme for Trump, a 125 story monster of a tower (there would have been a hotel component as well).

Source of images below: Master Architect Series II: Richard Keating
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/W-AMB01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/W-AMB02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/W-AMB03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/W-AMB04.jpg

Aleks Apr 26, 2008 4:20 AM

Looks like a giant column. I was expecting this blocky, setback full of, dark blue tower. Not bad for that time but I wonder if it could've been built back then?

Dac150 Apr 26, 2008 2:13 PM

I don't like the location.

Busy Bee Apr 26, 2008 6:09 PM

Looks like Taipei 101.

JDRCRASH Apr 27, 2008 12:12 AM

Please, Please don't give up Donald!!:fingerscrossed:

Quixote Apr 27, 2008 12:14 AM

So glad this one didn't get built. It would've been so out of place.

latennisguy Apr 27, 2008 8:48 PM

If only it was built. More than likely, it would have spurred more development in mid-wilshire. And, I actually like the way the tower looks.

BrandonJXN Apr 28, 2008 12:48 AM

Thank God this wasn't built. It belongs in New York.

Tanster Apr 28, 2008 6:06 AM

^^Thats a good way of thinking (sarcasm)

Patrick Apr 28, 2008 6:21 AM

I've always wondered how it looked like, Well I'm mixed with this tower, I really like the design, but LA? I dont know, it would have been cool, but tottaly out of place.

plinko Apr 28, 2008 4:31 PM

^I think it would have been absolutely fitting for LA. The city of nodes builds the world's tallest building at yet another one. At least it was proposed next to a subway station and not say...at the 405 and Santa Monica?

I think it would have been a great project (though I do wonder about FAA clearances given the approach to the northern runways at LAX).

10101000 May 13, 2008 3:00 PM

Ugly

ethereal_reality May 13, 2008 3:39 PM

Surprised me, I've never heard of this proposal.

It would be cool if someone with photoshop (or whatever)
placed it in it's local in a overview of L.A.

Wouldn't it be about halfway between downtown and Century City
...a bit closer to downtown no doubt....but still west of Bullock's Wilshire?

BrandonJXN Jun 25, 2008 1:59 AM

^ It would be about a block or 2 from the Wilshire/Normandie subway station. Itself about 3 or 4 miles from downtown LA.

Anyway, while looking for more info for this tower, I found some pics of a failed plan to redevelop the Ambassador Hotel from 1957.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/3...047a887b3c.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/3...6f828ccabc.jpg

It would've been called Ambassador International.

Nowhereman1280 Jun 25, 2008 2:04 AM

^^^ Yummy


The subject of this thread however is gross. I'm glad it didn't get built...

canucklehead2 Jun 25, 2008 3:18 PM

So what if anything is on the site now? I remember some people wanting to save the hotel, while the city wanted to build a new high school on there...

JDRCRASH Jun 25, 2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280 (Post 3633757)
^^^ Yummy


The subject of this thread however is gross. I'm glad it didn't get built...

WHAT?! It looks great!

Patrick Jun 25, 2008 11:17 PM

I actually might have liked this if this was built in the LA Live Spot, just imagine!

BrandonJXN Jun 25, 2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canucklehead2 (Post 3634707)
So what if anything is on the site now? I remember some people wanting to save the hotel, while the city wanted to build a new high school on there...

A vast majority of the hotel has been destroyed and the LAUSD school complex is under construction.

DowntownCharlieBrown Jun 26, 2008 8:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 3549292)
.

It would be cool if someone with photoshop (or whatever)
placed it in it's local in a overview of L.A.

Wouldn't it be about halfway between downtown and Century City
...a bit closer to downtown no doubt....but still west of Bullock's Wilshire?

My estimates for placement and height put it here:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/...bca9a2f0_o.jpg

NDPhilly Jul 10, 2008 7:27 PM

what is the top used for .

JDRCRASH Jul 17, 2008 2:09 AM

Threehundred, that isn't so bad, actually; but then again, I can see why residents probably would have whined about it. It would've been an eyesore; which is why I think they should've build up the surround Residential blocks.

philip Aug 23, 2008 10:05 AM

I wouldn't mind having this tower in my city.

ethereal_reality Aug 24, 2008 12:20 AM

Good job placing the tower in it's locale DownTownCharlieBrown.

BrandonJXN Dec 5, 2008 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDPhilly (Post 3665241)
what is the top used for .

Helipad

CGII Dec 6, 2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NDPhilly (Post 3665241)
what is the top used for .

Human sacrifice.

BrandonJXN Dec 6, 2008 12:36 AM

That too.

JDRCRASH Dec 14, 2008 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGII (Post 3956153)
Human sacrifice.

To the aliens....

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Jan 12, 2011 8:20 PM

what terrible supertall. a few more months or years on he drawing board might have helped.

Roadcruiser1 Jan 13, 2011 1:29 AM

It's the top of the building, and the upper floors that makes the building look horrible. Along with some parts of the facade if it were to go up today it would need some major reworking. The top parts of the building sort of reminds me of the Freedom Tower when it's top floors were left to be a standing skeleton.

StethJeff Jan 13, 2011 3:43 AM

Looks like a crappier version of Baiyoke II in Bangkok.

Plokoon11 Jan 13, 2011 8:29 PM

The top reminds me of a boxing ring, maybe they could use it for special boxing/fights.

unanimity Jan 31, 2013 10:48 PM

i actually adore the style. very art deco. i also dig the intended location, it doesn't take away from library tower's dominance in true downtown. sad it didn't happen.

THE BIG APPLE Feb 2, 2013 11:42 PM

It would've been away from the main LA skyline, and would be like Hong Kong's two supertalls away from each other.

gramsjdg Feb 6, 2013 4:41 AM

I really like this design. Beats the heck out of the US Bank Tower, which just screams "late 1980's!" :facepalm:

NYguy Feb 14, 2013 4:14 PM

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=151747

Separated at birth...


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ng/W-AMB03.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2071/...a9e58841_o.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/148782121/original.jpg


Or neither...we should have known Trump was crazy, even back then.

gramsjdg Feb 16, 2013 6:40 PM

Tripletts? (Yokohama Landmark Tower)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...k-Tower-02.jpg

NYguy Aug 19, 2017 1:19 AM

http://archinect.com/news/article/14...lt-los-angeles

A Trump Tower in L.A.? Thankfully, that was only part of "Never Built Los Angeles"


http://cdn.archinect.net/images/1028...arz03g4388.jpg

Julia Ingalls By Julia Ingalls
Feb 15, '17


Quote:

In LA, Trump bragged he was going to spend a billion dollars on what he claimed would become the world’s tallest building. His architect Bill Fain delivered a gilded 125-storey office tower etched in a diamond-patterned exoskeleton...David Martin also devised a skyscraper: ‘When I told Ivana [Trump] the basis of the idea was to put two diamonds together, she lit up,’ Martin said. ‘I think they were divorced a week later.’ — The Guardian

Quote:

Whether you've been following the tumultuous life of proposed architecture projects in Los Angeles or not (a stretch of Grand Avenue, for example, has been undergoing elaborate proposals designed in part by Frank Gehry for almost forty years) "Never Built Los Angeles," a book by architectural critics at large Sam Lubell and Greg Goldin, shows us via The Guardian the almost-reality of a Los Angeles-based Trump Tower designed by Johnson Fain back in 1989.


http://cdn.archinect.net/images/650x...2b2cdlgfxc.jpg



https://www.theguardian.com/cities/g...en-in-pictures

NYguy Aug 19, 2017 1:25 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/g...en-in-pictures

http://m1.i.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/...e2.TrumpLA.jpg

mt_climber13 Aug 19, 2017 8:22 PM

Jesus that man has no taste.

NYguy Aug 25, 2017 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_climber13 (Post 7898202)
Jesus that man has no taste.


It would have been great! Believe me, lol.

canucklehead2 Aug 16, 2020 9:26 PM

If only the dude stuck to what he was good at, building gaudy monuments of excess. Personally I'm disappointed most of his projects were failures because from a purely design/scope POV I like the idea of a 125-floor tower menacing over Wilshire Blvd just as much as his idea of a 150-floor Television City Tower overlooking the Hudson River or his 140 floor project in the East River for the NYSX... GD alternate timeline field distortions! ;)


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