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PoscStudent Aug 9, 2019 9:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KDMusic (Post 8652295)
https://i.imgur.com/Ov3deqR.png

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/2ae10...8655e0a663.pdf

This is the floor plan of the new mall expansion, anybody got any guesses for whats going where?

I'm guessing H&M will be next to Coles (29,540 sq/ft), Banana Republic next to that (15,620 sq/ft), Gap in the 10,000 sq/ft spot, and Old Navy next to the new Winners (25,600 sq/ft).

Banana Republic and Gap could be in the one location. Can’t remember where too, but I remember being somewhere where Gap was in one side of the store and Banana Republic in the other side. So maybe one of the bigger stores will be Gap/Banana Republic.

Crisisnf Aug 11, 2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NewfBC (Post 8652202)
Forever 21 are in trouble, are closing stores, not opening.

Ron.

I'm surprised to see the Gap returning as I thought they were busy closing stores like Forever 21. And why return so soon to the same location?

Crisisnf Aug 11, 2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan (Post 8652614)
I can’t remember a fountain at the Avalon Mall, only the iconic one at The Village. Was sad to see that one go.

Kinda over fountains but my favorite was on Prince Philip Parkway (Long Pond?)

Arrakis Aug 11, 2019 8:34 PM

Dropped by the mall today to checkout the new Winners/HomeSense store and it was quite busy as usual. The new store is quite nice and I noticed many new kinds of merchandise as I quickly browsed around as the store was crowded. The new entrance is also nice. So When you now enter what use to be the Sears entrance inside the mall, there is a short hallway which will eventually have smaller stores on both sides. Winners HomeSense has a very prominent store sign facing you as the hall turns and eventually leads out to the new exterior entrance which is right next to Winners/HomeSense exterior entrance. I look forward to see all of this completed eventually.

Arrakis Aug 12, 2019 12:08 PM

The Avalon Mall renovation and expansion is getting some national coverage from The Retail-Insider. Some more details how H&M, Old Navy, Gap and the other new tenants will fit in to the existing and new floor plan.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retai...verhaul-photos

ThisIsJustePourDire Aug 12, 2019 5:49 PM

Was just taking a look at the renderings of the mall expansion and noticed that they left a few logos on the store. Not sure if it was mentioned previously, but according to their mock-ups, it looks like the mall will be getting a Levi's, Tommy Hilfiger, Steve Madden, and an Indigo to replace the Coles. In addition, according to the exterior storefronts, it looks like Roots will be moving in from the parking lot.

They have a new walkthrough rendering available on the expansion website.

https://www.avalonmallredevelopment.com/video

ThisIsJustePourDire Aug 12, 2019 6:02 PM

https://ibb.co/BrsdRj8

https://ibb.co/DrD7Wmy

This is just an educated guess, they wouldn't create mock-ups of specific stores if they weren't going to be at that specific location

https://ibb.co/jHKSQg0

Larla77 Aug 12, 2019 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsJustePourDire (Post 8656029)
https://ibb.co/BrsdRj8

https://ibb.co/DrD7Wmy

This is just an educated guess, they wouldn't create mock-ups of specific stores if they weren't going to be at that specific location

https://ibb.co/jHKSQg0

I don't think the people doing the mockups/design would be privy to information on what retailers the mall were negotiating with.

ThisIsJustePourDire Aug 12, 2019 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Larla77 (Post 8656052)
I don't think the people doing the mockups/design would be privy to information on what retailers the mall were negotiating with.

Architects work closely with mall management to solidify designs plans and ensure that the facade of possible retail outlets mesh with the overall design. As an architecture student myself, I wouldn't use logos of specific brands as a way to protect myself and the firm against copyright infringement, unless the company has given permission to the architects and the mall management to use them. That's why in most cases, you get a slight variation of the name (ex - "Azure" used instead of "Indigo") in order to prevent using the name without permission, while still hinting at the retailer.

statbass Aug 13, 2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThisIsJustePourDire (Post 8656012)
Was just taking a look at the renderings of the mall expansion and noticed that they left a few logos on the store. Not sure if it was mentioned previously, but according to their mock-ups, it looks like the mall will be getting a Levi's, Tommy Hilfiger, Steve Madden, and an Indigo to replace the Coles. In addition, according to the exterior storefronts, it looks like Roots will be moving in from the parking lot.

They have a new walkthrough rendering available on the expansion website.

https://www.avalonmallredevelopment.com/video

Hmm... interesting, good observation! Suffice to say nothing is set in stone until we hear the official word from The Avalon Mall. However, I think these are good assumptions given the logos in the mock-ups. The Avalon Mall seems to be moving in the direction of attracting new (to NL at least) upper scale shops. I think they've done a good job with the renos and attracting new retail. Most people seem to be in a hoopla around the Galway developments, but I think the Avalon Mall is a much more exciting development and is bringing some new retail to the city and the province.

Tocchet22 Aug 13, 2019 11:10 AM

Giant Tiger
 
Recent article about Giant Tiger Expansion with excerpt below referencing NL.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retai...w-headquarters

“At present we are from Alberta to P.E.I. We are not yet in British Columbia or Newfoundland but exploring our options for future expansion,”

J_Murphy Aug 13, 2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 8655748)
The Avalon Mall renovation and expansion is getting some national coverage from The Retail-Insider. Some more details how H&M, Old Navy, Gap and the other new tenants will fit in to the existing and new floor plan.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retai...verhaul-photos

Worth noting from this article:

"According to Crombie RETI’s website, the population within a seven kilometre radius of Avalon Mall is 117,144 residents. The Average household income is an impressive $92,056. Last year, annual sales per square foot at Avalon Mall were almost $700, which makes it one of the top performing centres in the Canadian Maritime provinces"

Vivid_Ascent Aug 13, 2019 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by J_Murphy (Post 8656697)
Worth noting from this article:

"According to Crombie RETI’s website, the population within a seven kilometre radius of Avalon Mall is 117,144 residents. The Average household income is an impressive $92,056. Last year, annual sales per square foot at Avalon Mall were almost $700, which makes it one of the top performing centres in the Canadian Maritime provinces"

If only we were part of the Canadian Maritime provinces... :rolleyes:

KnightFury Aug 13, 2019 3:05 PM

After the big four announcement last week, people seemed a little upset that stores like Hot Topic, Justice, Artiza, etc weren't coming.

I think we all realized that this was only the start of the announcements. But the mall had to update their post with the following: "UPDATE - These four store are just the beginning of the announcements. Thank you for the feedback and KEEP THOSE SUGGESTIONS COMING!!!***"

Fair points about using the logos in the renderings, but I don't know how much weight those renderings hold. Only time will tell.

statbass Aug 13, 2019 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KnightFury (Post 8656862)
After the big four announcement last week, people seemed a little upset that stores like Hot Topic, Justice, Artiza, etc weren't coming.

I think we all realized that this was only the start of the announcements. But the mall had to update their post with the following: "UPDATE - These four store are just the beginning of the announcements. Thank you for the feedback and KEEP THOSE SUGGESTIONS COMING!!!***"

Fair points about using the logos in the renderings, but I don't know how much weight those renderings hold. Only time will tell.

LOL... I guess people thought the mall expansion would only be enough for 5 new stores.

Sox Aug 14, 2019 4:17 PM

Whatever happened to the Rumours of the Old Costco location being taken over by U-HAUL , once Costco moved ?
I haven't heard a peep on this in about a year now.
I guess that was just another made up pipe dream

Larla77 Aug 14, 2019 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sox (Post 8658165)
Whatever happened to the Rumours of the Old Costco location being taken over by U-HAUL , once Costco moved ?
I haven't heard a peep on this in about a year now.
I guess that was just another made up pipe dream

The building is listed for lease so I guess that's not happening. Disappointing for the area. Would be nice to see something happening with one of those spaces.

https://www.commerciallistings.cbre....e8?view=isSale

NewfBC Aug 14, 2019 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Larla77 (Post 8658250)
The building is listed for lease so I guess that's not happening. Disappointing for the area. Would be nice to see something happening with one of those spaces.

https://www.commerciallistings.cbre....e8?view=isSale

Actually looks like it's for sale.

Ron.

IronMan Aug 20, 2019 2:39 PM

The Telegram reports on their Facebook page that Showcase is opening in the Avalon Mall. This is a second location to the one in The Village. I believe Showcase was in the Avalon a few years back? They said it was going in a space near the new winners. I love what is happening at the Avalon Mall, but I have to say that I am not excited about this one. :)

Larla77 Aug 20, 2019 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan (Post 8663645)
The Telegram reports on their Facebook page that Showcase is opening in the Avalon Mall. This is a second location to the one in The Village. I believe Showcase was in the Avalon a few years back? They said it was going in a space near the new winners. I love what is happening at the Avalon Mall, but I have to say that I am not excited about this one. :)

They were on the second floor near the food court. I didn't know they ever left.


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