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WorldTexas Jun 4, 2014 1:29 PM

SAN ANTONIO │ 307 Dwyer │ 6 FLOORS │ U/C
 
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Mixed-use downtown project wins initial OK

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/30/32/14...3/784x2048.jpg

An underused segment of downtown, two blocks south of the Bexar County Courthouse, could become the site of a vibrant mixed-use development that would include 272 apartments, half of which would be priced for people who earn less than San Antonio's median income.

The $50 million development would also include about 50,000 square feet of commercial space and 450 parking spots.

...

Under the complex plan, San Antonio-based Landbridge Partners would team with the San Antonio Housing Trust Public Facility Corp., which is overseen by a board of directors composed of five City Council members. The city owns 307 Dwyer Ave., the site of a former transitional housing facility that was no longer needed after Haven for Hope opened.

Now, the city is poised to convey the property to the public facility corporation, which will become an equity partner with Landbridge, a group that plans to add the adjacent Heritage Plaza building to the mix.

Read more: http://www.expressnews.com/news/loca...OK-5526381.php
This together with Elan Riverwalk and the HEB store will really start to stitch together downtown with the Southtown and Arsenal areas.

And what exactly do they mean when they say "add Heritage Plaza to the mix?" Are they going to tear it down for the new residential complex?

Keep-SA-Lame Jun 4, 2014 2:00 PM

Fantastic news. Maybe we'll see a new cluster form around the new HEB. I would assume they're tearing down both Heritage Plaza and that city building for this project based on the renderings, the building looks too big to be using just that city building's land based on the rendering.

sirkingwilliam Jun 4, 2014 2:02 PM

Here are the images I used in the post I made in the Urban Development thread.

And yes, both buildings will be razed. Heritage Plaza looks to be the site of the parking garage.


LOCATION
http://i.imgur.com/JqsD4H7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6M36UKe.png
THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT WITH BE RAZED

WorldTexas Jun 4, 2014 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame (Post 6604870)
Fantastic news. Maybe we'll see a new cluster form around the new HEB. I would assume they're tearing down both Heritage Plaza and that city building for this project based on the renderings, the building looks too big to be using just that city building's land based on the rendering.

That's a shame about the Heritage Building. It's not particularly attractive, but to demolish it and use up that large of a block for this small project seems wasteful. I hope they build around the small house on Dwyer; the way Joske's goes around the church.

And it would be great to see a cluster of development and retail pop up around the HEB. The streetcar and the San Pedro Creek improvements will pass through that area, so it has a huge potential for redevelopment.

UrbanTrance Jun 4, 2014 8:47 PM

I wonder what retail they are anticipating. At 50,000 sq ft of commercial space, there could be a number of things (or one really big thing).

miaht82 Jun 30, 2014 5:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice93 (Post 6605610)
I wonder what retail they are anticipating. At 50,000 sq ft of commercial space, there could be a number of things (or one really big thing).

Just the fact that the space has been carved out is good enough for me.

FYI... the average drug store is 12-15k sq. ft.; the average Best Buy (for comparisons sake) is in the mid 30k sq. ft. range.

Onward Jul 9, 2014 8:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice93 (Post 6605610)
I wonder what retail they are anticipating. At 50,000 sq ft of commercial space, there could be a number of things (or one really big thing).

Hopefully its a number of things.

sirkingwilliam Jul 9, 2014 8:23 AM

I'm not following you Texan, I promise. lol

Funny enough, I came to SSP to post two things. 1) The micro apartments story and 2) a bit of information I learned about this project yesterday.

Apparently, there's a very good possibly that Trader Joe's take space at this development.

Trader Joe's wants to build in the urban core but hasn't found the right spot that is the right size.

Trader Joe's entering the market in 2012 and wanting to be downtown is one of the reasons H-E-B jumped all over the 1 million dollar incentive package the city put out and H-E-B used the 1 million for street improvements because they didn't need it or require it to build their Flores Street Market.

There are 625-units planned/under construction within a two block radius of Dwyer plus a lot more in the pipeline (yet to be announced) in the same area. TJ's has to see this as an ideal location.

:tup:

UrbanTrance Nov 16, 2014 10:05 PM

Any updates on this? I figured with that amount of retail that a grocery store might take up some of it. TJ's would be a good option.

mklunder13 Jan 14, 2015 10:26 AM

Any idea of if this project has been approved or, if it has been, when it will begin construction?

UrbanTrance Jun 29, 2016 12:43 PM

I can't get behind the paywall, but it sounds like this is the same project.

City looking to sell downtown parcel to local developer for $50M mixed-use development
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The now-vacant site used to be home to the Dwyer Avenue Center for Transitional Housing before the center was relocated to Haven for Hope.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...-to-local.html

Looking forward to seeing this project move along.

SAtown Jun 29, 2016 2:51 PM

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SAtown Jun 29, 2016 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanTrance (Post 7489308)
I can't get behind the paywall, but it sounds like this is the same project.

City looking to sell downtown parcel to local developer for $50M mixed-use development

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...-to-local.html

Looking forward to seeing this project move along.

From behind the paywall :cheers:

Quote:

Another one of the city's vacant buildings in downtown San Antonio is heading for a complete overhaul if plans to sell the property to a local developer are approved.

At 307 Dwyer Ave., the 0.4-acre site of the former Dwyer Avenue Center for Transitional Housing is expected to be sold to Landbridge Partners — a local development group that tried to develop on the property several years ago through a public-private partnership with the city of San Antonio that ultimately fizzled.

Now, however, it has a chance to call its own shots.

Slated to go before the City Council this Thursday, the deal includes plans to sell the property outright to Landbrige, which has plans of its own to redevelop the site into a $50 million mixed-use complex that would include the city-owned site and the neighboring Heritage Plaza property, which Landbrige owns.

Interim Director of the Center City Development and Operations Department John Jacks told me the building has been vacant since 2010 when the transitional housing operations moved to Haven for Hope's current location to the west of downtown.

"We've been looking for opportunities to redevelop that site since the building is functionally obsolete," he said. "It was specifically set up for a transitional, shelter-type use, and it's hard to use it for anything else. (Landbridge's) redevelopment project would fall in line with the goal of more inner city, core housing."

He added that the developer's plan would include a minimum of 272 market-rate multifamily units, and given the 90 days Landbridge would need to close on the property, construction could start within the next 18 months, Jacks said.

The site itself is in the middle of fast-expanding residential market, with two future multifamily complexes at Hemisfair as well as Greystar's recently completed Agave apartments. When all is said and done, the area within a one-mile radius of the Dwyer Street property — which has an appraisal value of $896,680 — will be home to more than 1,000 apartment units.


UrbanTrance Jun 30, 2016 1:21 PM

Thanks for posting. I was hoping a TJ's would go in there, but River North would be a good area, too, if they ever want to build in SA again. I was expecting some kind of grocer for this development because 50,000 sqft of retail is a lot. It sounds like they would have a multitude of retail, dining, and maybe even entertainment.

jaga185 Jan 4, 2017 3:45 AM

So it looks Hertitage Plaza is getting torn down finally. I posted in Encore, but it was actually this property.... looks like something might finally be happening with this one.

RyanfromTexas Feb 25, 2017 5:07 AM

confused
 
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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 7666864)
So it looks Hertitage Plaza is getting torn down finally. I posted in Encore, but it was actually this property.... looks like something might finally be happening with this one.

http://bexarwitness.com/wp-content/u...1/IMG_9212.jpg
I'm so confused...and so is everyone else. I thought Encore was going to be on the lot next door that borders S. Flores St. Which project is going to replace the Heritage Plaza building!?

http://bexarwitness.com/video-demo-m.../#.WLEPphiZNhA

sirkingwilliam Feb 25, 2017 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanfromTexas (Post 7723230)
http://bexarwitness.com/wp-content/u...1/IMG_9212.jpg
I'm so confused...and so is everyone else. I thought Encore was going to be on the lot next door that borders S. Flores St. Which project is going to replace the Heritage Plaza building!?

http://bexarwitness.com/video-demo-m.../#.WLEPphiZNhA

There's nothing to be confused about. This isn't Encore. Encore is on adjacent property and will face South Flores St.

This is the Landbridge development that was discussed for a few years and ultimately got the ball rolling in the summer of 2016. Construction looks to have started.

mklunder13 Feb 26, 2017 5:02 PM

What are the details about the Landbridge development? I can't remember which one this is, probably still too new to the forum. Are there any articles on this development?

sirkingwilliam Feb 27, 2017 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mklunder13 (Post 7724244)
What are the details about the Landbridge development? I can't remember which one this is, probably still too new to the forum. Are there any articles on this development?

Comment #11 has a link to the Landbridge deal.

sirkingwilliam May 14, 2017 4:04 PM

NEW RENDERINGS OF 307 DWYER



Keep-SA-Lame May 14, 2017 8:11 PM

Looks good to me! Great location, too.

jaga185 May 14, 2017 10:37 PM

I like them, we need more colors downtown! Their proximity to the HEB too... :)

Sigaven May 15, 2017 4:22 PM

My only critique is the seemingly wimpy and tree-less sidewalk on the left side...hopefully the sidewalk is wider than it looks there and landscaped!


Edit: I'm referring to the second image btw. Maybe it's a less prominent street so in that case maybe not all that bad.

jaga185 May 18, 2017 6:30 PM

https://therivardreport.com/wp-conte...5038490536.png

via theRivardReport

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A representative from the San Antonio Conservation Society on Wednesday said she would like the developers to explore adding ground-floor leasing for commercial tenants to attract more pedestrians to the area. Earlier plans included ground floor retail on the northwest and southeast corners of the development, Pollock said. Officials will continue to look at that possibility, and see how they can finance it.

sirkingwilliam Nov 10, 2017 4:30 PM

NEW RENDERINGS - NEW HEIGHT │ SIX STORIES

https://i.imgur.com/uvfKMtw.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/gB2OQ5Q.jpg

sirkingwilliam Nov 10, 2017 4:42 PM


Sigaven Nov 10, 2017 4:45 PM

Looks like they added more ground floor retail. (or at least more glass)

Also liking the pops of color.

Keep-SA-Lame Nov 10, 2017 7:10 PM

Dang, I kind of liked that curvy bit on the corner with Stumberg. I'll gladly trade it for a couple of extra floors though, definitely still an attractive building.

jaga185 Nov 10, 2017 8:17 PM

RETAIL :cheers: :worship:

JACKinBeantown Nov 11, 2017 1:07 AM

Holy crap, there's retail. Someone's been listening. I approve. :tup:

Keep-SA-Lame Nov 13, 2017 3:36 PM

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...B-697F4B7591AC

According to the HDRC application, they're wanting to put retail on the entire Stumberg St side, and live/work on the Guilbeau St side.

jaga185 Nov 13, 2017 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame (Post 7984344)
https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...B-697F4B7591AC

According to the HDRC application, they're wanting to put retail on the entire Stumberg St side, and live/work on the Guilbeau St side.

That's gonna be cool, more of a local type thing. I'm here for it.

Spoiler Nov 19, 2017 11:46 PM

I get emailed in advance the preliminary agenda for the HDRC meetings, which has the address, name of applicant, and a brief explanation of the request, like "signage", or "window replacement". On the next HDRC agenda is a request made by HEB to build a 6-level parking garage on the block immediately south of this thread's development, a vacant lot that fronts Cesar Chavez. The request says "construction of a six-level parking structure and land bridge".

Land bridge??!!

I'm assuming it will cross Cesar Chavez. My curiosity is piqued.

But besides that, it will be a crime if there will be no ground level retail. But being that it's a parking garage for the headquarters of a grocery chain, maybe I don't have to worry.

KevinFromTexas May 18, 2018 11:33 AM

Site plan with elevations.

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...|Text|&Search=

jaga185 Jun 26, 2018 3:10 PM

This looks to be on the agenda one more time for some last minute changes. I was wondering what was going on with it.

deeger Aug 23, 2018 6:19 PM

I haven't been by this site for about a month but I don't believe this is under construction yet, as the header indicates. Does anyone have an update on this project?

sirkingwilliam Aug 23, 2018 7:43 PM

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Originally Posted by deeger (Post 8291259)
I haven't been by this site for about a month but I don't believe this is under construction yet, as the header indicates. Does anyone have an update on this project?

There is a crane on the site. It’s under construction.

htowntransplant Aug 23, 2018 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam (Post 8291398)
There is a crane on the site. It’s under construction.

Well, there's the Encore Riverwalk crane and the HEB parking structure crane within a stone's throw of each other. Unless a third was added today, I don't think this one is underway yet. :???:

sirkingwilliam Aug 23, 2018 9:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htowntransplant (Post 8291486)
Well, there's the Encore Riverwalk crane and the HEB parking structure crane within a stone's throw of each other. Unless a third was added today, I don't think this one is underway yet. :???:

You may be right. I was going off seeing a second crane from the freeway near Encore.

Txdev Aug 29, 2018 2:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 7991271)
. The request says "construction of a six-level parking structure and land bridge"....

But besides that, it will be a crime if there will be no ground level retail. But being that it's a parking garage for the headquarters of a grocery chain, maybe I don't have to worry.

Hate to be a Debbie downer, and I have no inside information on the project, but retail seems unlikely. If they are going to the trouble of building a garage with a land bridge across Cesar Chavez, they likely want to maximize that parking for employees and/or customers.

Adding retail means not only taking away parking spaces for retail use, but the retail use also drives more parking needs that compete with the people you are trying to provide parking for in the first place.

However, it’s not all bad news. I will go out on a limb and guess that this could be the first step toward expanding the HEB that’s there. I think it has probably done better than they expected, and the only way to expand is to eat into their surface parking lot that doesn’t have a lot of extra spaces to lose. So build the parking garage first, and then expand the store.

JACKinBeantown Aug 29, 2018 2:55 AM

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sirkingwilliam Aug 29, 2018 3:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Txdev (Post 8297249)
Hate to be a Debbie downer, and I have no inside information on the project, but retail seems unlikely. If they are going to the trouble of building a garage with a land bridge across Cesar Chavez, they likely want to maximize that parking for employees and/or customers.

Adding retail means not only taking away parking spaces for retail use, but the retail use also drives more parking needs that compete with the people you are trying to provide parking for in the first place.

However, it’s not all bad news. I will go out on a limb and guess that this could be the first step toward expanding the HEB that’s there. I think it has probably done better than they expected, and the only way to expand is to eat into their surface parking lot that doesn’t have a lot of extra spaces to lose. So build the parking garage first, and then expand the store.


jaga185 Aug 29, 2018 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txdev (Post 8297249)
Hate to be a Debbie downer, and I have no inside information on the project, but retail seems unlikely. If they are going to the trouble of building a garage with a land bridge across Cesar Chavez, they likely want to maximize that parking for employees and/or customers.

Adding retail means not only taking away parking spaces for retail use, but the retail use also drives more parking needs that compete with the people you are trying to provide parking for in the first place.

However, it’s not all bad news. I will go out on a limb and guess that this could be the first step toward expanding the HEB that’s there. I think it has probably done better than they expected, and the only way to expand is to eat into their surface parking lot that doesn’t have a lot of extra spaces to lose. So build the parking garage first, and then expand the store.

I think they will expand it across the street once the garage is done. They could easily build something on the current site when the new HEB is done. With Dwyer going up, it's going to be a very dense area.

jaga185 Oct 30, 2018 4:50 PM

Looks like dirt has finally turned on this project.

txex06 Mar 27, 2019 1:02 AM

A crane is now up.

starvinggryphon Mar 28, 2019 2:51 AM

A lot of the columns for the first level are already completed. Does anyone know if the garage going up across the street to the south is part of this project?

jaga185 Mar 28, 2019 3:19 AM

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Originally Posted by starvinggryphon (Post 8521245)
A lot of the columns for the first level are already completed. Does anyone know if the garage going up across the street to the south is part of this project?

The garage is for HEB employees.

txex06 Jan 17, 2020 6:58 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/fLvtDVsj/20200117-125137.jpg
Since this forum is slow I thought I'd post a pic for an update.

jaga185 Jan 18, 2020 12:07 AM

That area looks crazy dense right now, I love it. Hopefully, HEB builds a MIXED use building to the right in this pic.


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