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oldmanshirt Mar 2, 2011 4:39 AM

Census 2010 Numbers
 
City and Place (I've bolded those that grew more than 15% between 2000-2010; places that lost population are in red; in addition to the official metro cities, I included county seats or significant cities from surrounding counties)

Place 2000 2010 num pct
Alamo Heights city 7,319 7,031 -288 -3.93%
Balcones Heights city 3,016 2,941 -75 -2.49%
Bandera city 957 857 -100 -10.45%

Bigfoot CDP 304 450 146 48.03%
Blanco city 1,505 1,739 234 15.55%
Boerne city 6,178 10,471 4,293 69.49%
Bulverde city 3,761 4,630 869 23.11%
Canyon Lake CDP 16,876 21,262 4,392 26.03%

Castle Hills city 4,202 4,116 -86 -2.05%
Castroville city 2,664 2,680 16 0.60%
Charlotte city 1,637 1,715 78 4.76%
China Grove town 1,247 1,179 -68 -5.45%
Cibolo city 3,035 15,349 12,314 405.73%
Comfort CDP 2,358 2,363 5 0.21%
Converse city 11,508 18,198 6,690 58.13%
Cross Mountain CDP 1,524 3,124 1,600 104.99%
Elmendorf city 664 1,488 824 124.10%
Fair Oaks Ranch city 4,695 5,986 1,291 27.50%

Floresville city 5,868 6,448 580 9.88%
Fredericksburg city 8,911 10,530 1,619 18.17%
Garden Ridge city 1,882 3,259 1,377 73.17%
Grey Forest city 418 483 65 15.55%
Helotes city 4,285 7,341 3,056 71.32%

Hill Country Village city 1,028 985 -43 -4.18%
Hollywood Park town 2,983 3,062 79 2.65%
Hondo city 7,897 8,803 906 11.47%
Johnson City city 1,191 1,656 465 39.04%
Jourdanton city 3,732 3,871 139 3.72%
Karnes City city 3,457 3,042 -415 -12.00%
Kerrville city 20,425 22,347 1,922 9.41%
Kirby city 8,673 8,000 -673 -7.76%
Lackland AFB CDP 7,123 9,918 2,795 39.24%
LaCoste city 1,255 1,119 -136 -10.84%
Lakehills CDP 4,668 5,150 482 10.33%
La Vernia city 931 1,034 103 11.06%
Leakey city 387 425 38 9.82%
Leming CDP NA 946 946 NA
Leon Valley city 9,239 10,151 912 9.87%
Live Oak city 9,156 13,131 3,975 43.41%
Luling city 5,080 5,411 331 6.52%
Lytle city 2,383 2,492 109 4.57%
McQueeney CDP 2,527 2,545 18 0.71%
Marion city 1,099 1,066 -33 -3.00%
Medina CDP 2,960 3,935 975 32.94%
New Berlin city 467 511 44 9.42%
New Braunfels city 36,494 57,740 21,246 58.22%
Olmos Park city 2,343 2,237 -106 -4.52%
Pearsall city 9,146 7,157 1,989 27.80%
Pleasanton city 8,266 8,934 668 8.08%
Poteet city 3,305 3,260 -45 -1.36%
Poth town 1,850 1,908 58 3.14%
Randolph AFB CDP NA 1,241 1,241 NA
St. Hedwig town 1,875 2,094 219 11.68%
San Antonio city 1,144,646 1,327,407 182,761 15.97%
San Marcos city 34,733 44,894 10,161 29.25%
Scenic Oaks CDP 3,279 4,957 1,678 51.17%
Schertz city 18,694 31,465 12,771 68.32%

Seguin city 22,011 25,175 3,164 14.37%
Selma city 788 5,540 4,752 603.05%
Shavano Park city 1,754 3,035 1,281 73.03%

Somerset city 1,550 1,631 81 5.23%
Staples city NA 267 267 NA
Terrell Hills city 5,019 4,878 -141 -2.81%
Three Rivers city 1,878 1,848 -30 -1.60%

Timberwood Park CDP 5,889 13,447 7,558 128.34%
Universal City city 14,849 18,530 3,681 24.79%

Uvalde city 14,929 15,751 822 5.51%
Von Ormy city NA 1,085 1,085 NA
Windcrest city 5,105 5,364 259 5.07%

County
Atascosa County 38,628 44,911 6,283 16.27%
Bandera County 17,645 20,485 2,840 16.10%
Bexar County 1,392,931 1,714,773 321,842 23.11%
Comal County 78,021 108,472 30,451 39.03%
Frio County 16,252 17,217 965 5.94%
Gillespie County 20,814 24,837 4,023 19.33%
Guadalupe County 89,023 131,533 42,510 47.75%
Hays County 97,589 157,107 59,518 60.99%
Karnes County 15,446 14,824 -622 -4.03%
Kendall County 23,743 33,410 9,667 40.72%
Kerr County 43,653 49,625 5,972 13.68%
Live Oak County 12,309 11,531 -778 -6.32%
Medina County 39,304 46,006 6,702 17.05%
Uvalde County 25,926 26,405 479 1.85%
Wilson County 32,408 42,918 10,510 32.43%

San Antonio-New Braunfels MSA
2000: 1,711,703
2010: 2,142,508
#Chg: 430,805
%Chg: 20.11


+ Kerr County: 2,192,133 (in response to a question SKW asked recently, the commuter interchange rate between the Kerrville mSA and the SA-NB MSA is around 18% as of 2009)

sirkingwilliam Mar 2, 2011 7:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanshirt (Post 5183895)
+ Kerr County: 2,192,133 (in response to a question SKW asked recently, the commuter interchange rate between the Kerrville mSA and the SA-NB MSA is around 18% as of 2009)

Thanks. What does the percentage have to be to have them included in a larger CSA? Or would they be included in a SA-NB MSA?

Good work btw.

Also, one last question, when will SA start doing a 10 digit dial? Nashville is about to start doing it and they're a lot smaller population wise than SA.

oldmanshirt Mar 2, 2011 1:30 PM

It would have to be 20% interchange before the two could agree to become a CSA, but not until it reaches 25% would they be automatically combined.

texastarkus Mar 2, 2011 11:26 PM

Hays County
 
I hate to break it to you but San Marcos/Hays County isn't in San Antonio Metro....It's in Austin. That's not to say this whole area isn't becoming one inter-related region.

oldmanshirt Mar 3, 2011 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texastarkus (Post 5184904)
I hate to break it to you but San Marcos/Hays County isn't in San Antonio Metro....It's in Austin. That's not to say this whole area isn't becoming one inter-related region.

Yep, I know. Like I said at the top, I've included significant cities in surrounding counties outside the metro to show what's going on just outside the SA area. This also explains why Kerrville, F'burg, Uvalde, Pearsall and Three Rivers are on there.

Keep-SA-Lame Mar 3, 2011 12:47 AM

Interesting that Alamo Heights, Olmos Park and Terrell Hills all lost population.

miaht82 Mar 5, 2011 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keep-SA-Lame (Post 5185010)
Interesting that Alamo Heights, Olmos Park and Terrell Hills all lost population.

Doesn't surprise me much. There could be a few reasons for that; # of empty homes (foreclosed), empty nest (a house with 2 adults and 3 teenagers in 2000 now has only 2 adults,) homes getting larger (building homes on double lots, where there were 2 homes, there is now only 1,) etc.
I don't see any of the 3 gaining any significant population, even if AH adds more condos near UIW and OP adds more condos/townhomes near Hildebrand. Only hope would be if redevelopment of retail space along McCullough (in OP) or Broadway (in AH) would include residential above retail, but even that is doubtful. Its a shame considering that AH, TH and OP can net on the higher end of rents.

JACKinBeantown Mar 5, 2011 7:06 PM

Where did you get the numbers from? The US Census website doesn't have anything more recent than 2009 estimates posted.

oldmanshirt Mar 7, 2011 5:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACKinNYC (Post 5188405)
Where did you get the numbers from? The US Census website doesn't have anything more recent than 2009 estimates posted.

http://txsdc.utsa.edu/txdata/2010/redistrict/

Texas State Data Center has tables of both county data and place data.

JACKinBeantown Mar 7, 2011 5:01 PM

Thanks.


(And now I'm just typing extra words because I got a notice telling me that "Thanks" is not long enough. Hmmm...) :shrug:

adtobias Mar 8, 2011 5:09 AM

Why would people be moving out of Alamo Heights and Olmos Park and Terrell Hills. I thought that was the place to be.

JACKinBeantown Mar 8, 2011 2:46 PM

The rich are constantly getting a bigger piece of the pie, and those are expensive places to live. Maybe they're buying up adjacent land and creating bigger lots for themselves. Maybe grown children are moving out of their parents' houses and creating empty nests. Maybe the non-super-rich just can't afford to live there anymore.

Keep-SA-Lame Mar 8, 2011 6:23 PM

I think its a combo of kids moving out and the replacement of single family houses with condos/townhomes that don't sell.

sirkingwilliam Mar 8, 2011 9:33 PM

Or the numbers aren't accurate?

Keep-SA-Lame Mar 8, 2011 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam (Post 5192092)
Or the numbers aren't accurate?

Could be the previous numbers were counting the populations high for some reason?

KevinFromTexas Mar 8, 2011 11:44 PM

The previous numbers were only estimates, not hard physical counts. Estimates are nice, but they're mostly useless until the actual Census comes out, and it too will be useless if people don't participate in it. It's not that the numbers aren't accurate, it's that people are too lazy to sit down for 5 minutes and fill it out. The Census is sort of like voting/elections. You can't complain about the results if you don't participate in it.

What Jack and Keep-SA-Lame say is true. There are now two empty houses in my neighborhood that likely did not get any counts during the last Census. Our elderly neighbor passed away last year. She had been living there alone, but became ill and so she moved in with her son, but kept the house. Now that house is empty and waiting for its next use. My grandma also passed away, and my aunt was staying at her house for a while. She's since moved out, so the house is empty. So that's two houses across the street from each other that are empty because of uh, generational changes going on. Those houses will likely be purchased later on with at least 2 people living in each, maybe 3 or more. There was also another house on my street that was surely empty during the Census, so it too didn't have anyone to be counted. But then just today I noticed some people moving into it.

JACKinBeantown Mar 9, 2011 3:55 AM

Sorry about your grandma, Kevin. Your neighbor too.

oldmanshirt Mar 25, 2011 11:35 PM

Now that all the census results are in, we know that the SA metro area has passed Cleveland, Cincinnatti and Orlando for 25th place in the MSA rankings. It had passed Kansas City two years ago for 28th place and is now less than 13,000 behind Sacramento for 24th.

Interestingly, Orlando had passed SA in population back in 2000, but would appear to have fallen victim to Florida's housing bust towards the end of the decade.

miaht82 Mar 27, 2011 4:18 PM

More of a long shot, but we are also 83,000 behind Portland. Granted, they added to their population too, but we both might surpass Pittsburgh by 2015.

Schertz1 Mar 28, 2011 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanshirt (Post 5183895)
+ Kerr County: 2,192,133 (in response to a question SKW asked recently, the commuter interchange rate between the Kerrville mSA and the SA-NB MSA is around 18% as of 2009)

OMB recently changed the automatic threshold from 25% to 15%, so a CSA should happen soon.


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