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Docere Oct 7, 2019 5:13 PM

Asian American demographics by city
 
What are the leading Asian groups in various US cities? And is the community overwhelmingly professional or does it include a sizeable working class Asian population as well.

Just to clarify will stick to the US Census definition of East and South Asians.

Docere Oct 7, 2019 5:14 PM

College degrees (Asian Americans) for selected MSAs:

Atlanta 56.2%
Boston 62.2%
Chicago 65.1%
Detroit 64.6%
Houston 57.4%
Los Angeles 53.1%
New York 53.1%
Philadelphia 57.3%
San Francisco 54.1%
Seattle 54%
Washington 65%

TexasPlaya Oct 7, 2019 10:54 PM

^^really surprised by Philly, a city I don't know much about demographically.

What's going on in Detroit and Chicago?

LMich Oct 7, 2019 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasPlaya (Post 8710248)
^^really surprised by Philly, a city I don't know much about demographically.

What's going on in Detroit and Chicago?

The auto industry in Detroit, and for a long time. It requires quite a bit of engineering to make modern automobiles.

As for the make-up of the metro population, the largest group by far is South Asians (1.8% of the total metro population), then followed distantly by "other" Asian (0.7%) and then Chinese (0.6%), Filippino (0.4%), Korean (0.3%), Japenese (0.2%), and Vietnamese (0.2%).

TexasPlaya Oct 8, 2019 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LMich (Post 8710264)
The auto industry in Detroit, and for a long time. It requires quite a bit of engineering to make modern automobiles.

As for the make-up of the metro population, the largest group by far is South Asians (1.8% of the total metro population), then followed distantly by "other" Asian (0.7%) and then Chinese (0.6%), Filippino (0.4%), Korean (0.3%), Japenese (0.2%), and Vietnamese (0.2%).

That makes sense, Houston has the same thing going except for the O&G industry.

Docere Oct 8, 2019 3:32 AM

Top Asian group by metro:

Atlanta Indian 102,000 1.8%
Boston Chinese 133,000 2.8%
Chicago Indian 205,000 2.2%
Dallas Indian 140,000 2%
Detroit Indian 71,000 1.7%
Honolulu Filipino 148,000 15%
Houston Indian 124,000 1.9%
Los Angeles Chinese 507.000 3.8%
New York Chinese 740,000 3.7%
Philadelphia Indian 109,000 1.8%
Sacramento Chinese 61,000 2.7%
San Diego Filipino 158,000 4.8%
San Francisco Chinese 462,000 10.1%
San Jose Chinese 166,000 8.5%
Seattle Chinese 97,000 2.6%
Washington Indian 151,000 2.5%

#2 Asian group:

Atlanta Korean 45,000 0.8%
Boston Indian 76,000 1.6%
Chicago Filipino 112,000 1.2%
Dallas Vietnamese 84,000 1.2%
Detroit Chinese 24,000 0.6%
Honolulu Japanese 146,000 14.8%
Houston Vietnamese 115,000 1.8%
Los Angeles Filipino 417,000 3.2%
New York Indian 620,000 3.2%
Philadelphia Chinese 80,000 1.3%
Sacramento Filipino 57,000 2.5%
San Diego Chinese 58,000 1.7%
San Francisco Filipino 250,000 5.5%
San Jose Indian 156,000 8%
Seattle Indian 79,000 2.2%
Washington Chinese 103,000 1.7%

Capsicum Oct 8, 2019 3:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Docere (Post 8709792)
College degrees (Asian Americans) for selected MSAs:

Atlanta 56.2%
Boston 62.2%
Chicago 65.1%
Detroit 64.6%
Houston 57.4%
Los Angeles 53.1%
New York 53.1%
Philadelphia 57.3%
San Francisco 54.1%
Seattle 54%
Washington 65%

I wonder what cities would have the lowest % stats? I'm guessing Sacramento (history of working class Asian Americans, including farm workers), Honolulu (or in Hawaii more broadly, many descendants of Asian labor migrants). Or possibly Las Vegas (large service/entertainment industry)?

Docere Oct 8, 2019 3:49 AM

Or Minneapolis where the Asian population is mostly Hmong.

Chef Oct 8, 2019 4:05 AM

I don't know about now but when I moved to the Twin Cities in the late '80s Ramsey County (St Paul) had the highest unemployment rate and poverty rate for Asians among urban counties in the US. Refugees generally have a different economic arc than immigrants and take longer to establish themselves. This was especially an issue for the Hmong who were living a very primitive rural lifestyle before they got sucked into the wars in southeast Asia and ended up in the US. They came here completely unprepared to live in an urban, developed country.

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Originally Posted by Docere (Post 8710625)
Or Minneapolis where the Asian population is mostly Hmong.

The Hmong are the largest Asian ethnicity in the Twin Cities but they are only a little more than half of the Asian population. They probably get the most press because there aren't a lot of Hmong in the rest of the country. There are also a fair number of Vietnamese, Cambodian, Lao and Chinese in the Twin Cities.

Capsicum Oct 8, 2019 4:25 AM

How is social mobility like now among the US-born and later-born generations of the Indochinese refugees now?

I'm guessing the foreign-born share isn't increasing given the duration of time since the end of the Vietnam war has passed and the native-born share is making up a large proportion?

I'm guessing there are a lot of 20-30 year olds now who would be college aged or later, born and raised in the Minneapolis area now.

The Somali community is a bit more recent, isn't it? How are they faring -- are they also gradually getting settled in and coming to, along with the Hmong, become very established in the area? Ilhan Omar seem well-liked and respected locally as a homegrown politician.

CaliNative Oct 8, 2019 6:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Docere (Post 8710593)
Top Asian group by metro:

Atlanta Indian 102,000 1.8%
Boston Chinese 133,000 2.8%
Chicago Indian 205,000 2.2%
Dallas Indian 140,000 2%
Detroit Indian 71,000 1.7%
Honolulu Filipino 148,000 15%
Houston Indian 124,000 1.9%
Los Angeles Chinese 507.000 3.8%
New York Chinese 740,000 3.7%
Philadelphia Indian 109,000 1.8%
Sacramento Chinese 61,000 2.7%
San Diego Filipino 158,000 4.8%
San Francisco Chinese 462,000 10.1%
San Jose Chinese 166,000 8.5%
Seattle Chinese 97,000 2.6%
Washington Indian 151,000 2.5%

#2 Asian group:

Atlanta Korean 45,000 0.8%
Boston Indian 76,000 1.6%
Chicago Filipino 112,000 1.2%
Dallas Vietnamese 84,000 1.2%
Detroit Chinese 24,000 0.6%
Honolulu Japanese 146,000 14.8%
Houston Vietnamese 115,000 1.8%
Los Angeles Filipino 417,000 3.2%
New York Indian 620,000 3.2%
Philadelphia Chinese 80,000 1.3%
Sacramento Filipino 57,000 2.5%
San Diego Chinese 58,000 1.7%
San Francisco Filipino 167,000 3.7%
San Jose Indian 156,000 8%
Seattle Indian 79,000 2.2%
Washington Chinese 103,000 1.7%

The fastest growing Asian groups in many U.S. cities are Filipino and Indian. Filipinos are #1 in San Diego, probably because SD is a Navy town (lots of Filipinos served on navy ships).

CaliNative Oct 8, 2019 6:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Docere (Post 8710625)
Or Minneapolis where the Asian population is mostly Hmong.

The Minni climate must take some getting used to for people coming from tropical climates.

Shawn Oct 8, 2019 12:35 PM

Fun trivia: Long Beach has the highest number of Cambodian Americans in the country. Number two? Lowell, Mass. 13% of the city is Cambodian. Lowell and a few bordering towns have about 30,000 Cambodians and people of mixed-Cambodian background. All from the late 70s wave of refugees. Long Beach, Lowell, and Seattle are the three American cities with Cambodian US Consular Offices.

Docere Oct 8, 2019 7:11 PM

More specifically, Tacoma. Cambodians seem to have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities.

Capsicum Oct 8, 2019 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Docere (Post 8711259)
More specifically, Tacoma. Cambodians seem to have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities.

Do working class minorities (Asians or otherwise) have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities in newer growth metros?

Like are there analogues to the working class parts of Mississauga, Surrey and Brampton among Asian Americans?

Capsicum Oct 8, 2019 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8710701)
The Minni climate must take some getting used to for people coming from tropical climates.

I'm sure people adjust. If you go to really big ethnically diverse big cities like Chicago, NYC, or Toronto (yes, I know all three are less cold than Minni), you'll see no one batting an eye at black or brown people dressed in their winter scarves and boots headed off the work on a chilly winter morning, or assuming that someone can handle less cold because of where their ancestors came from.

In fact, even towns and cities in Arctic Canada (though tiny in number) is getting some (really small, but present) amount of immigrants from places like the Philippines and India, as Canada attempts to get more people to settle the north and spread around immigrants so they don't centralize into only big crowded cities.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...lism-1.1260176

Capsicum Oct 8, 2019 7:50 PM

One thing I've regularly wondered about -- why is the US so good at resettling refugees in rural/small town areas, compared to Canada. Like the Somalis and Hmong in Minneapolis, but tons of other examples too. You'll find of cases all over, from Seattle to Houston, from the Midwest to the South.

In Canada, the big issue is overcrowding immigrants and newcomers into the same expensive cities, and even when immigrants are settled into small towns, they leave and head for Toronto or Vancouver.

But in the US, it seems like this is less of a problem. Burmese, or Eritrean, Cambodian or Hmong refugees deciding to pack up and head to New York or LA or Chicago isn't as heavily talked about, but refugees in, say, Nova Scotia or somewhere, packing up and moving to the GTA is.

Ironically, the US seems to have more mobility among its domestic-born population than Canada (more people move and work between states than between provinces), yet refugee communities are really good at staying put and growing a local community so that kids and grandkids of small town 70s-era refugees are still around growing the community, not packed up and left for the nearest big metro.

Docere Oct 8, 2019 8:04 PM

Since when is Minneapolis rural or small town?

Docere Oct 8, 2019 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Capsicum (Post 8711290)
Do working class minorities (Asians or otherwise) have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities in newer growth metros?

Like are there analogues to the working class parts of Mississauga, Surrey and Brampton among Asian Americans?

Long Beach and Tacoma are more akin to Oshawa or Hamilton not Mississauga.

CaliNative Oct 8, 2019 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Docere (Post 8711259)
More specifically, Tacoma. Cambodians seem to have a tendency to live in blue collar satellite cities.

Also Cambodian immigrants are major operators of independent donut shops. Probably #1 operators in U.S. of independent donut shops. Indians are big owners of independent motels and 7-11 type stores. Initially, first and second generation immigrants tend to specialize. Later generations then move into other professions as they assimilate.


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