PHILADELPHIA | 200 Race | 230 FT | 19 FLOORS
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https://i.imgur.com/1mRuYoQ.jpg?1 200 Race St http://www.phila.gov/historical/meet..._IC-lowres.pdf Title: 200 Race Project: Apartments, hotel, ground floor retail Architect: Adjmi Architecture Developer: Revolution Development Location: 200 Race Street, Philadelphia, PA District: Old City Floors: 19 Height: 230 FT |
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Didn't see that coming. Isn't there something under construction near there (between there and Christ Church) already?
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While i like the design, my big concern is the lack of space for loading and other back of house issues, especially trash removal. If loading is going to take place on 2nd Street, there won’t be room for passenger drop off/pick up when this is happening. I also find it to be a stretch that the trash for a hotel of this size will just be brought out to Race Street; more dedicated space is needed for the operations to be practical (not to mention for the commercial component ops).
I love the height, the high-end condos and the street life this will add, but this could be a really tough sell to the neighbors for the reasons mentioned above (as this will need a variance to get built). |
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Also, the National consists of additional apartments that are going up on the east side of 2nd between Race and Arch; these along with 218 Arch street (another 150-or-so apartments) is really going to change the amount of foot traffic over here. |
I love this proposal and hope it gets built ASAP.
In addition to the 401 Race St development mentioned above, and The National -- don't forget PMC Property has nearly completed this one at 218 Arch: https://pmcpropertygroup.com/sites/d...amp=1522947467 https://pmcpropertygroup.com/sites/d...amp=1522947467 https://pmcpropertygroup.com/properties/218-arch-street |
^Yep, I did mention that one above as well :)
It's really wild how many large developments are going up all over Old City. There are a few other smaller projects as well - 313 Race Street, 3rd between Market and Arch, Vine between 2nd and 3rd, an Astoban condo project immediately east of the Arch St. side of the National and row homes going up on Front and near the Ritz. Hopefully that damn billboard/surface parking lot on the opposite corner to this proposal will be the next lot to be developed, as I'd imagine this project would make that corner that much more appealing; the billboard lot is also in a special bridge approach overlay that is much more permissive from a zoning perspective, so that alone should increase the value of the land. |
A big part of it is that OCCA used to deny every single project that required community review, and then when they died -- because when you're a community group that says "No" to everything, you run into insurance issues; who knew? -- it suddenly opened up that part of Old City for a development gold rush.
As long as the Architectural Committee isn't populated by aesthetic cretins of the type you find in the main development thread, this thing should get approved largely as-is. It really is one of the handsomest and most aesthetically pleasing proposals we've seen on this board in quite a while, IMO, and I really love how it's bringing this Chelsea look to Old City. |
I think this proposal would work (and be fantastic) IF the bottom portion was a genuine, historic industrial brick building with a modern overbuild. But the base is new construction and therein lies the problem. I get what they're going for, but I question if they can achieve that industrial/modern "Soho/Chelsea" look since the industrial aspect of it is contrived. Because the base is new construction, I don't know that they will achieve that jarring contrast you need for something like this to work (Pennovation is a good example of this style). Although, I'd love to eat my words b/c I really like the concept (again, if only the base was a true industrial building) and I think the contemporary part is really well designed.
Kudos to the developer/architect for thinking outside the box and putting forward a bold proposal. Sometimes it's good to shake things up with buildings that elicit strong love-it-or-hate-it opinions. |
Definitely doing some cribbing off of the architecture of Lower Manhattan and architects like Tamarkin and Adjmi.
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Mark me down as someone who really likes this design.
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I like this design as well. I think it would look great at street level and when looking at the building from a distance.
My only concern is with the west elevation, I hope the metal panels look good. Hopefully the logistics as mentioned by El Duderino can be worked out. |
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Architecture Committee notes from the preliminary project review (starts on page 23): http://www.phila.gov/historical/meet...18%20draft.pdf
Synopsis of discussion: not a bad looking building, but doesn't fit character of neighborhood and is out of scale, most feedback from neighbors was negative, some recommended they go even more modern throughout This is non-binding feedback, but it wouldn't surprise me if there we some adjustments made based on the decreased likelihood of passing muster by the higher authority of the Historical Committee. Hopefully it will evolve slightly but still retain most of the height and overall look. This intersection (2nd and Race) would be a fantastic location for 3 modern towers that would be a grand entrance/exit for Old City (the third location being where the surface lot/billboard are...Mr. Barstool shouldn't go anywhere). The buildings this would replace provide little architecture value, are in disrepair, and do little to add to the overall character of the area, despite what the vocal meeting attendees claim. |
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They are pissed about the south view being obscured and the amount of traffic this would add to that corner. I would expect a pretty good amount of push back on this. I made a total idiot out of myself at the Bridge at a 4th of july party there when this came up. I was like "oh you saw that?! Yeah that looks aweso.....oh you hate it? Oh yeah, me too, me too...." Anyway, I hope they can figure this out. The buildings currently on this site are terrible. This would really open up things there. |
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Basically, this is the ultimate pot calling the kettle black...and I say that as someone who lives in this immediate vicinity and will be just as impacted by the project (for the record, i want this to happen for sure). |
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