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I wonder what brand it will be.

Something boutique probably.

This is a handsome design. This along with the Witte Building proposal can do a lot for the 100 block of E Commerce. I'm looking forward to seeing how this develops.

This is an awesome design. Hopefully it is approved by the HDRC. We could use from freshness with the older architecture we have. It also looks as though they want to put a restaurant at the bottom with chairs lining the street. Sweet!

I so hope this goes through, it looks amazing & I believe it'd spur more development downtown.

I agree.

There are three surface parking lots to the east of this site. Two small lots and one large lot. Those three need to be developed. This would encourage that. Though I'm hearing the large parking lot may be part of one of the proposals for the new CPS headquarters. Hope my source is right ad I hope CPS picks it. We'll see.

It looks like its across from the Aztec theater in the renderings too! The location's great!

Yes. The hotel would replace the Fish Market building at the nw corner of St. Mary's and Commerce St.

The VERY busy bus stop adjacent to the Fish Market building will be relocated.

It will only replace the Sullivan building at the corner. The Fishmarket building is to stay. The bus stop won't be relocated.

Good location, and really liking the design. Hopefully this gets approved.

Any word on an actual height proposal on the CPS building? I heard that
they suppose to be announcing something this month....:shrug:

Technically, we are both correct. Ben Olivo goes into detail here about the name of both buildings being Fish Market.

You are correct about the bus stop. I remembered this nearly two year old article incorrectly. As the article states, the bus stop will reduce the number of routes it serves from 12 to 3. I do appreciate the correction.

Ambitious design. I like it.

BTW, been hearing some bad news about CPS HQ. May not move. Hope it's wrong.

This looks very similar to a proposal from a few years back that I cannot quite remember the name of.

Definitely an improvement over what is there, and it incorporates the old whitish stone building with the three dark windows into the base.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=78214...28.48,,0,-1.65

nice design. could this possibly the W hotel that was proposed a few years back?

Hearing from where?

This is a great design! I am really liking the potential of that restaurant space and it's got a good connection to the river. Will be exciting to see some more cranes downtown.

Please don't screw this up HDRC

It seems to have a bit of a modern taste of the Hilton Palacio del Rio with its stackable rooms, with a twist. Not the same obviously, but with modular rooms stacked at different angles with some glass and other design elements thrown in.

This looks nice. Is there any media coverage on it saying how many rooms it'll have?

Not a peep from the media yet, I guess we'll see something tomorrow.

197 rooms.

My wife works there
 

Apparently officially, staying put is an option, but probably not a likely one.

Yes, I know this. Has been known since the CEO decided to put out bids. But you said you heard news that they would stay at their current site, which surprised me because I hadn't heard that and everything I've told is they're really happy with the bids they got in.

Are you saying you misinterpreted the details about there being an option to stay put as them saying they were staying put?

Article from MySA.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/downtow...ar/#29859101=0

All I was saying was
 

That word from management to the employees is that a move is not certain.

Possibly parroting the official stance given the public. With 20 or so proposals to look at, I would think they could find something they like.

I don't know. Different location and different design.

http://groupstructural.com/ssp_direc...g/Picture2.jpg





The last Fish Market proposed hotel was intended to be boutique, so this one might follow suit. If so, I wonder if this will spur a W Hotel development.

Different owner last time.

Also, as stated in the agenda for the building and reiterated by Ben Olivo today, if the HDRC denies the demo then Chris Hill would have no choice but to add density aka height to the development.

They'll more likely approve demo'ing the building as they have already once approved demo'ing the same building. However, if they did deny it, that might not be such a bad thing if that means a taller building.

It's not viable if he doesn't add density, which he's proposing now. If the demolition of the Sullivan Bank building is denied, then he would be back to the drawing board of how he could develop an economically viable project without the demo of the Sullivan Building. His quote is taken out of context, or somewhat misunderstood.

That wouldn't mean a taller building. This entire development (18 floors or taller) is dependent on the demolition of the Sullivan Bank Building.

Yeah, that quote seemed to be taken out of context. Well, regardless, the demo will more than likely be approved, paving way for this awesome building to get built.

This building will change and improve the design standard/quality for downtown.

I'm quite excited!

I do wish it had a residential component.

I agree. I don't think that this will be much of an issue with HDRC. This tower, IMO will appear to add more density to the skyline than what it really will, at least from certain angles. I'm excited about this too.

If it's just another hotel, then I would prefer it not get built.

Same here. It's just too hard to sell residential units at a property like that...no onsite parking is the biggest problem. What a developer could offer at a unique location like this, a developer could offer more amenities and onsite parking somewhere near the Pearl or along Broadway for much cheaper, which we're seeing more of. A hand full of residential units wouldn't be too difficult in theory, but then the actual management and design side gets a little cloudy. You start having to answer questions on the management of those residential units vs the hotel rooms, will the residential units share elevators/ other amenities with hotel guests, etc.

There are other particular properties in the CBD that a prime for residential components. Whether we see something on these lots is another story.

I made the gif below when the massing rendering came out for the new Frost HQ. I messed with it and added THE HOTEL development (blue building) to show its potential affect on the skyline.

This the skyline looking east from the UTSA campus. That is IH10 running north and south.

That frost building will drastically change the skyline!?

Yes, especially from this view.

The massing model in the renderings had the proposed tower at twice the height of the current Frost HQ.

The final height may be taller too. We'll just have to wait and seem.

Nice job with the GIF
 

Can't wait to see what designs the Weston group comes out with for the Frost tower.

Even though the Hotel is shorter than the Drury, looks like some decent infill.

It was previously posted that CPS was going to make an announcement sometime this month.....I guess we'll just have to wait if it's good or bad news for the skyline of San Antonio.

This is awesome news! I can't wait for a timeline of this project.

Yay can't wait to see this go up.

This is a nice building! It just makes me more curious as to who will run it.

I'm looking forward to seeing the final design. This is a very nice looking project.

this project is now approved! This will spur dev. downtown. Excited!


http://therivardreport.com/esquire-o...sign-approved/

We're all excited about this development but you're posting day old news in multiple threads. It's unnecessary.

San Antonio's business journal has some nice larger renderings of it:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...=image_gallery

Passed through the area where this hotel will be built and it is going to make a huge impact in aesthetics in the area. Hopefully, propelling more development in the area and downtown. :tup: to Chris Hill for believing in S.A.

Well I will have a good view of the construction progress..that is until I move into the former Frost Bank Building.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...JoskeCrane.jpg

Isn't this totally different, this is the W hotel and the site here is Martin Street and St. Mary's where today the old abandon high rise is sitting, NW corner from Greyhound Bus station. On the far left is the old Crown Plaza hotel that has it's name changed every year.

Yes, the two developments (or rather proposed developments) are not related whatsoever.

This was the most recent proposal before this newly approved 18-story boutique hotel:
http://s.lnimg.com/photo/full/b1dc13...eeb71a5b30.jpg