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De Minimis NY Jul 10, 2018 5:05 PM

I agree that the building looks a little stout in that rendering, but I think it will actually look much better in real life.

The rendering is set from the one perspective from which the view of the building is completely unimpeded by any of its neighbors. In reality you will almost never see this thing from that angle, though--there will always be multiple buildings in the way obscuring portions of the base.

The higher floors will be more visible, but by time you get to the higher floors the proportions are much nicer. This is a saving grace of 30 Hudson Yards as well; it's base is deceptively thick but once everything else is complete you will only see the slimmer top portion peaking above the canopy.

shakman Jul 10, 2018 7:19 PM

I like'm "clunky" :D

TechTalkGuy Jul 10, 2018 10:16 PM

This is a nice building. :D
Honest! ;)

TransitEngr Jul 11, 2018 11:30 AM

Why isn't this listed as U/C??

TechTalkGuy Jul 11, 2018 6:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TransitEngr (Post 8247723)
Why isn't this listed as U/C??

Actually, it is. ;)

Zapatan Jul 12, 2018 1:45 AM

From the rendering I get the impression this building will be very fat.

It's not terrible though, I guess it adds nice balance to the skyline since a lot of new towers going up are super thin.

NYguy Jul 13, 2018 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 8248556)
From the rendering I get the impression this building will be very fat.

It's not terrible though, I guess it adds nice balance to the skyline since a lot of new towers going up are super thin.

It will be fat, as will the Spiral across the street from it.

Hudson11 Jul 13, 2018 2:09 AM

both will be extra... well, you know

https://i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/029...9205926971.gif

NYguy Jul 17, 2018 3:47 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BlRTLi1g...c.lilianmarlen

https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...5uIf2-Q0Qw1VCu



https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...WLLRr67iNyjaaM



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https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...t8dOJn9dWgfOqP

TechTalkGuy Jul 17, 2018 3:58 AM

:goodpost: Fascinating construction pics, up close! :tup:
Spider-Man would be proud. ;)

Prezrezc Jul 30, 2018 10:40 PM

Wait a minute...I have to be missing something here...If this is supposed to be 1,011', why does the YIMBY forum still have it listed as 985'?

NYguy Jul 31, 2018 4:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 8267079)
Wait a minute...I have to be missing something here...If this is supposed to be 1,011', why does the YIMBY forum still have it listed as 985'?



Closer to 1,012 ft.



http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...eUbUdn5.d1.JPG



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tjr101 Aug 1, 2018 3:05 AM

The 1,011 ft is that elevation or from ground to roof and is this going to be taller than 35 Hudson?

Prezrezc Aug 1, 2018 3:43 PM

I'm pretty sure that the 1,039' figure for 35 uses the AMSL calculation.

NYguy Aug 2, 2018 3:58 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl3eIFWH...by=intheskynyc

https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...10270464_n.jpg



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JMKeynes Aug 2, 2018 12:25 PM

Another jewel in the crown of the Financial Capital of the Worldl!! :cheers::cheers:

NYguy Aug 7, 2018 2:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjr101 (Post 8268595)
The 1,011 ft is that elevation or from ground to roof and is this going to be taller than 35 Hudson?

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

Quote:

Building Height (ft.): 1,011
Building Stories: 58

NYguy Aug 10, 2018 2:56 AM

30 Hudson topped out as 50 Hudson begins it's slow climb out of the ground...(and for good measure, notice the Spiral beginning to wake up).


https://www.instagram.com/p/BmR8Xc7l...n-by=ozedigger


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NYguy Aug 11, 2018 1:48 AM

The "Battle of the Beasts" heats up...

50 Hudson Yards vs the Spiral
1,011 ft vs 1,031 ft



https://www.instagram.com/p/BmTCMgfh...by=luckygregor

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NYguy Aug 19, 2018 3:30 PM

50 Hudson, the Spiral, and 3 Hudson all ready to shoot up out of the ground. Each massive office towers that would probably be the largest office tower going up anywhere else in the country, just to put it into perspective.


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl_xkdun...en-by=ericznyc

https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram...MzM3NA%3D%3D.2

chris08876 Aug 22, 2018 7:52 PM

https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/...ell-Nelson.jpg
Credit: Andrew Campbell Nelson

Prezrezc Aug 22, 2018 9:26 PM

Why is it that just today, YIMBY upped their "official" figure for this tower to the 1,011' that everyone else--i.e. SSP--was reporting?

And they're asking rhetorically whether this will perceptibly change the design....What's 26 feet more or less, gents???

InTheLoopFromNYC Aug 22, 2018 10:29 PM

Tad off topic but what's up with the scaffolding above the HY subway entrance in post #522? Is that for water leakage repair?

chris08876 Aug 22, 2018 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 8290028)
Why is it that just today, YIMBY upped their "official" figure for this tower to the 1,011' that everyone else--i.e. SSP--was reporting?

Sometimes because of the weekend, they publish on a Monday. So if something was found out lets say Friday afternoon, it'll make news Monday or sometime the next week. They draw info from various sources, insider user info, or u/c updates from either the forums, elsewhere or even her sometimes.

NYguy Aug 28, 2018 1:24 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm_uLMlA...-by=luxigon_la

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ILNY Sep 4, 2018 2:36 AM

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NYguy Sep 4, 2018 3:24 PM

Massive pit for a massive tower.



https://www.instagram.com/p/BnSSqLHF...n-by=ozedigger

https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...04337408_n.jpg




Just for scale, that second setback is higher than the UN building...



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NYguy Sep 20, 2018 4:39 AM

Don't know who this is for, but cool shots...


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn5Ggzhl...n-by=ozedigger


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NYguy Sep 27, 2018 3:53 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoNH7qil...en-by=maticmax

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https://www.cpexecutive.com/post/thy...ards-contract/

Thyssenkrupp Secures $130M Hudson Yards Contract
The Germany-based company will design and install more than 100 elevators and escalators across Related Cos. and Oxford Properties Group’s 18 million-square-foot, mixed-use development on Manhattan’s Far West Side.



SEP 26 2018
by Barbra Murray


Quote:

At the 2.9 million-square-foot 50 Hudson Yards office skyscraper, thyssenkrupp will provide as many as 40 elevator systems in one shaft. Twenty-seven elevators will be installed at the 1.3 million-square-foot 55 Hudson Yards office tower, and 12 elevator and escalator units will be put in place at The Shed, a 200,000-square-foot multi-arts center. The contract also calls for thyssenkrupp to deliver building transportation solutions for the 1 million-square-foot The Shops & Restaurants at Hudson Yards retail center.
Quote:

Thyssenkrupp will employ its TWIN elevator system at the 50 Hudson Yards building. TWIN, which the company also plans to install in the elevator test tower at its $200 million U.S. headquarters development in metropolitan Atlanta, facilitates the independent functioning of two elevator cars in a single shaft, thereby allowing for a more efficient use of space and the accommodation of as much as 40 percent more passengers.

NYguy Sep 30, 2018 12:55 AM

50 Hudson (right) and the Spiral...


https://www.instagram.com/p/BoUFTYzB...=archartdescon

https://scontent-lhr3-1.cdninstagram...OTY3NQ%3D%3D.2

mrnyc Oct 1, 2018 2:01 AM

nice angle of both pits --- and very cool crane shots up there --- wow!

NYguy Oct 1, 2018 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 8331199)
nice angle of both pits --- and very cool crane shots up there --- wow!

We're going to be watching these two massive office towers rise up at the same time, as well as 3 Hudson across the street. It's going to be fun, sort of like watching the WTC rise.

NYguy Oct 1, 2018 2:45 PM

A look at who's in the neighborhood so far...


http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...jdbo2aJ.d9.JPG



http://a4.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/1/...V1w8Q5.d10.JPG




I notice from both of the renderings done by this firm that the "hat" is gone. I hope that is truly the case.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnUVPptg...-by=luxigon_la


https://scontent-amt2-1.cdninstagram...ODk4Mw%3D%3D.2

Eidolon Oct 3, 2018 11:56 PM

Current availabilities in the tower...

https://image.ibb.co/kZ9hGz/50HY.png

ILNY Oct 16, 2018 3:18 AM

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1965/...500a11ca_o.jpg


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NYguy Oct 16, 2018 1:55 PM

Not that long ago, there was a drive thru McDonald's on this site.

Zapatan Nov 1, 2018 7:28 PM

This, The Spiral and 3 Hudson are going to be such monsters together :cheers:

Zapatan Nov 1, 2018 11:41 PM

Not sure if this has been posted but there's a mockup :yes:

Photo credit: (Instagram links were not working)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoHwxoHXEC/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoHkRVnLVP/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfoHkRVnLVP/

JMKeynes Nov 2, 2018 2:41 AM

That doesn’t match any rendering we’ve seen. I wonder if we’ve seen the final design. It may have been tweaked somewhat.

NYguy Nov 2, 2018 3:49 AM

Posted earlier, but a look at the render as well. It's gonna be a classy building. Maybe a little large, but it's neighbors will be large as well.




JMKeynes Nov 2, 2018 4:01 AM

I can see it on the close-up. It looks great.

patriotizzy Nov 2, 2018 3:52 PM

Good filler. Nothing special about it.

JSsocal Nov 2, 2018 5:15 PM

It's sad when a 1,000 tower is just 'filler'. Easy on the eyes no doubt- but they could have been more ambitious here. While NY's residential architecture has really been to some amazing places the last several years - the commercial development has not gotten there.

antinimby Nov 2, 2018 5:40 PM

^ They got a large site, lots of air rights, little restrictions and yet all they can come up with is a glass podium with a fat glass box on top.

My fear is that Foster knows NY now (don't go for the fancy stuff like 2 WTC with the diamonds and stuff because that will just get valued engineered out or rejected. Go for the economical box) and this is the formula he has for all his future NY commissions, i.e. Chase's 270 Park Ave.

For the Chase tower, he might even go daring a bit and throw in a few gimmicky cross bracings to give the skin some visual interest and watch all of the fanboys here lap it up. :rolleyes:

JMKeynes Nov 2, 2018 7:07 PM

By the same token, no American city remotely approaches the quality of office towers rising in NY. Chicago is the master of ennui in terms of office construction, and other US cities, like Dallas, Atlanta, and Charlotte, are building a handful of small, cheap boxes. Not to mention, the boutique buildings rising in the MP District have unparalleled quality.

Crawford Nov 2, 2018 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 8366281)
^ They got a large site, lots of air rights, little restrictions and yet all they can come up with is a glass podium with a fat glass box on top.

The office market in NYC is finance-oriented, which demands huge floorplates and trading floors, and the grid/zoning generally requires box-on-podium design. Architects align design to market demand and regulatory requirements.

In any case, there are lots of examples of skinny supertalls, then people complain "too skinny". When we get a fat supertall, it's apparently "too fat".

Zapatan Nov 2, 2018 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8366422)
The office market in NYC is finance-oriented, which demands huge floorplates and trading floors, and the grid/zoning generally requires box-on-podium design. Architects align design to market demand and regulatory requirements.

In any case, there are lots of examples of skinny supertalls, then people complain "too skinny". When we get a fat supertall, it's apparently "too fat".

Right,

I like the mix of some really skinny + fat supertall buildings personally.

I think this building will be extremely imposing and it'll work well with its neighbors (new and old)

I do hope that Phase II of the HY will yield a taller tower than 30HY though. Or maybe one of the other adjacent sites.

antinimby Nov 2, 2018 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8366422)
The office market in NYC is finance-oriented, which demands huge floorplates and trading floors, and the grid/zoning generally requires box-on-podium design. Architects align design to market demand and regulatory requirements.

In any case, there are lots of examples of skinny supertalls, then people complain "too skinny". When we get a fat supertall, it's apparently "too fat".

You do realize that complaining about something being too skinny (not that I did) does not mean that a fat building is good, right?

And I don't really have a problem with fat per se if the design was good. It being a box is my issue with it.

JMKeynes Nov 2, 2018 8:16 PM

Compared to 110 North Wacker or the new CNA tower in Chicago, 50 HY is spectacular, let alone compared to the new NCR "tower" in Atlanta or the new Ally or BofA towers rising in Charlotte, etc. The same is true with fat lame boxes rising in Denver and Dallas.

In fact, while NY is heads and shoulders above all other cities in terms of office tower design, at least Chi., Atl., Dallas, Denver, LA, SF, Charlotte, and Houston are building office towers. Most US cities are not.

NYguy Nov 3, 2018 1:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 8366281)
For the Chase tower, he might even go daring a bit and throw in a few gimmicky cross bracings to give the skin some visual interest and watch all of the fanboys here lap it up. :rolleyes:

Foster designed exactly what Related wanted for the site. A meaty office tower with large floor plates, the kind of tower the Hudson Yards was specifically rezonned for. And they are building it right next to 30 Hudson, a tower of the same size. There was no reason for Related to do anything other than what they are building on this site. It will be one of the city's top office towers, and I'm not talking about the height. It's the type of office tower that makes New York City business districts what they are. Sure there are flashier office towers, but its towers like this that hold it all together. It just so happens that because this tower is being built now, and not 50 years ago, its taller than other towers of similar size, gaining supertall status. But in a city of so many tall towers, supertall status no longer means skyline defining. They're not all going to be ESB's or WTC's. And BTW, if you're not a "fanboy", what are you doing on a skyscraper website???


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