Should Winnipeg Have It's Own Specific Section (Local) within the Man./Sask. Forum
 

Manitoba and Saskatchewan posters please vote Yes or No .

Would you like to see Winnipeg have it's own SSP: Local Section similiar to these examples:

Vancouver:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/foru...hp?forumid=161

Edmonton:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/foru...hp?forumid=648

Please leave your thoughts and comments and any questions. Thanks.

I would vote yes.

While we currently have threads for specific topics and projects they sometimes get lost in the shuffle and the main construction thread just becomes a catch all. A more organized local would help prevent that and help keep discussion about specific topics in their appropriate threads.

Vancouver's seems like overkill for Winnipeg, but having some logic is nice. Edmonton's is a bit of a dog's breakfast.

Given that there's only about fifteen to twenty really active topics in MB/SK for Winnipeg right now. The Edmonton structure would probably work. The threads at the bottom of the Edmonton section are a year old. I think it boils down to how active are other Winnipeg forums outside of SSP. If there are pretty active ones then even splitting Winnipeg out from MB/SK is probably overkill in the first place. That said, I like Vancouver's even though a few sections haven't been touched in a month or two.

As far as the split goes in the first place. I'm in the no camp. Not quite enough traffic to warrant it. The threads are lively, but there's not enough threads that it is killing the rest of MB/SK.

No.

I dislike the "local forum" setup with a deep burning passion.

Makes things more complicated for the users to accomplish something that really only matters in some sort of a city versus city dick measuring contest of perceived national importance in the world of SSP.

And that's all I have to say about that.

No. Why does the question even need to be asked again? If we move to the local model can I ask for a poll every six months to change it back to the way it was before?

If for some reason we move to a local model, I can't say that I would have any interest in navigating the Vancouver-type forum-within-a-forum.

EDIT: drew nailed it, this seems to be mainly of interest to teenagers who look at it purely as an issue "well if Halifax and their CMA population of 390,328 has one, then why don't we??"

^Stop being old and rational. :haha:

Reg: thread creation in general:

I'd love to see more posters becoming active in creating new threads on projects, development and issues if the need arises in Saskatchewan or Manitoba ( check back through previous pages first to limit duplication of threads).

eg: Would anyone be interested in starting a Retail Discussion thread for Regina? :)

Has it been three months already? Time flies since the last time someone asked this question.

No. Who cares if other cities have it. It sucks. This layout is totally fine.

I liked this board better when all of Western Canada was on one page. It's nice to see what's going on in different cities and to hear out of town perspectives. As an added plus, it kept some of the inane conversations down. I can only imagine how quickly the Winnipeg Restaurants thread would devolve into the Winnipeg Drive-thru Dumpout thread if this community became any more insular.

^totally. I have always been against compartmentalizing this forum. Each time the boxes get smaller, the discussion is less diverse and interesting.

Okay I'm swayed, change my vote to NO!

Having its own thread is just a way to organize information and make it easier to find information and opinions you are looking for without having to read through all kinds of posts that are not relevant. It provides a thread on a topic. If you look on the Canada thread, the topics jump around all over the place because in many cases people post items there instead of under the city they are discussing.While not preventing that, it would help minimize that if each major city had their own thread. Winnipeg is big enough to have its own thread.

I agree - this is the question that should have been asked a long time ago. I read other parts of the forum for other places. I come here to read about my provincial capital, for the most part.

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I can't stand anything Saskatchewan related.

How about just a subsection of this section for development related posts, and the original section can hold all the other discussions?

To be honest. I'd be happy with one thread.

It totally kills the discussion to break everything out. It's not about finding information. It's a discussion. Right now Winnipeg's is like a chat among friends on a few topics. When every little thought gets its own section/thread it kills the flow and dialogue. Those local forums are like a spreadsheet for doing research. Winnipeg has a good thing going. We have for years. Just leave it. It works well. I see no benefit.

It gets asked three times a year.

It has nothing to do with being big enough. It has to do with creating good discussion. Our section has that. Don't bugger it up just because we are 'big enough'.

The Canada section is not a good comparison. It actually works much like the Winnipeg section. It's a handful of topics. Locals become every building or bit of news getting its own topic.

It's clear that the numbers are pointing towards people wanting a local section, so all I can do at this point is to plead for an Edmonton-style local (which would basically be a single catch-all for everything Winnipeg related) as opposed to a Vancouver-style local with all of its numerous subforums, which in my opinion would be disastrous to the discussion flow.

The latter arrangement would only make sense if there were hundreds or thousands of posts a day and breaking it up was the only way to manage the flow of information... obviously we are far from that level of activity. At any given time there are no more than a few dozen Winnipeg-related threads active in a given month which is easily accommodated in a single forum.

Hmm..The last actual poll of this type, (forum related) was taken in March of 2013, before that one Aug.2010 ?

Either way it helps forum administration make their decision if change is warranted or not.

^^ Their are some other examples of the format you speak of.

San Antonio
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/foru...hp?forumid=447

Me neither. It will turn into a bunch of bulletin boards with narrow topics and no conversation. The forum used to be about discussion -- I wouldn't want to see it converted into an over-organized Wikipedia.

The only way that this is fair is if three subforums are created: Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina.

90% of the threads are Winnipeg related so I don't see the big fuss. It will look the same. Just without the three Saskatchewan topics going on. I'm all for it.

Sure, why not? :)

Saskatoon and Regina only account for a small percentage of conversation in this forum and do not merit their own sections at this point. Winnipeg dominates by a wide margin which is why the suggestion is being made.

Yeah. If change is needed for the sake of change. At least leave a thread like 'Winnipeg Construction' so there can be a place for the free flowing discussion that makes this forum interesting.

I don't get why we need a topic for every development. There are not enough to warrant that in my opinion, but I get that people want to feel as important as everywhere else and for whatever reason dividing it up appears to do that for some people.

I hope it doesn't ruin a good forum for no perceptible reason.

It shouldn't be an SSP local, but rather a sub forum like there is for Edmonton. That would be the best, IMO.

^ 2 options available if a change is decided upon.

Examples: Vancouver/Calgary layout or Edmonton/San Antonio layout. Vid did mention a link with only construction/development separated for the City in question. Interesting suggestion.

I agree with you but this is probably the closest thing we are going to get for a while long while. Also to all the people that think the forums will become to much strict we just want the Winnipeg forums separated from Saskatchewan's nothing else.

Yeah, this is all I thought it was about -- just one extra level of organization to keep the Winnipeg threads separate from the Regina/Saskatoon threads. No change to the threads themselves.

There is already. It's called the the Manitoba & Saskatchewan forum.

:brickwall:

We could easily avoid splitting altogether if we used discussion icons for different cities, similar to what they do in the general construction section of the forum.

if it goes ahead please make it Edmonton-style.

^^ I agree with the Edmonton style. Vancouver's is just a mish mash.

If we "hide" the Winnipeg topics into their own section what is left will be a relatively inactive forum. As much as Winnipeg having its own section makes sense I think we need to keep the status quo to help prop up the other areas.

If you took the time to look at this forum's thread listing and went through top 20 threads on it right now, there are 11 Winnipeg threads, 7 Saskatchewan threads, a general mixed thread and this thread.

I'm not sure how 55% suddenly turned into 90%.

And I never said giving three seperate subforums was a good idea, all I said is that's how it would be fair, given the three major cities within this region. I voted No to the poll because the volume of threads in this section doesn't deserve subforums.

I don't care what happens, but being curious I just counted this forum and 39 of 50 threads on this page are Winnipeg related.

Just leave it. No reason to change. I enjoy seeing whats happening elsewhere, not just in Winnipeg.

Poll has been Closed.

Decision on any changes to the format is under review by website administration.

Since when was there a Poll on this? I watch this forum on a daily basis pretty much, and only now do I see a Poll on Separating MB and SK forums. Andthat Poll's first discussion post timestamp was Jan 22, 2016. And this Poll is now closed, after 5 days!

Who's pullin the wool over our eyes, eh?

If you're gonna have a proper poll, should it not be active for at least a month, to make sure most everyone gets a vote?

In any event, mark me down as YES (for separation). That makes 50 YES and 37 NO...Is that not a majority?

Bookmarks. baby.:cool:

The poll was open since January 22.

I asked this question like two years ago and got bitched out to no end for it :P haha

Glad to see the sensible side won the poll.

Yes, and my point is that a mere 4½ - 5 days is not enough time.

We did get a lot of responses but just 5 days is pretty short. I'd have given at least a week.

Looks like the majority has spoken. I guess we will see if the democratic process is adhered to in the coming days or simply ignored, as what has happened in the past around here.

Where did it say that this forum is a member-run democracy?

I make that "assumption" based on one of the great foundations that make this a great country, that's all :)

It's a benevolent dictatorship and we bow down to those in power.