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deja vu Jan 19, 2009 3:25 PM

Brutalist Buildings in Your Region
 
Edited and links updated 12/29/2010:

Brutalism: Sculptural, geometric, massive urban playgrounds made of concrete, places where skateboarding would be a blast (and probably banned), or smaller-scale exercises in form and space. Since brutalism's heyday in the 1960's and 1970's, Pittsburgh has seen a rich variety of brutalist structures go up, and I'm interested in how many buildings of this type exist in other cities, especially new projects. Please post images of your favorites (or least favorites).

I'll get the ball rolling with my school:

Carnegie Mellon University: Wean Hall

http://www.samizdata.net/~pdeh/20050...dsc00611sm.jpg

photo credit http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archiv...to_differ.html

University of Pittsburgh: Barco Law Building

http://www.essential-architecture.co...ding_thumb.jpg

Photo Credit http://www.essential-architecture.co...E/STY-M11A.htm

University of Pittsburgh: Posvar Hall

http://www.tour.pitt.edu/images/bigp...ur-040-big.jpg

photo credit http://www.tour.pitt.edu/tour-040-photo.html

University of Pittsburgh: Hillman Library

http://www.tour.pitt.edu/images/bigp...ur-075-big.jpg

photo credit http://www.tour.pitt.edu/tour-firstmap.html

University of Pittsburgh: David L. Lawrence Hall

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...wrenceHall.jpg

Photo Credithttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DavidLawrenceHall.jpg

Evergrey Jan 20, 2009 1:34 AM

Unfortunately, the University of Pittsburgh essentially doubled in size almost overnight after it went from private to "state-related" in 1966... which just so happened to be the beginning of the short-lived brutalist movement... ushering in a wave of cold, inhuman brutalist structures within Pitt's previously elegant campus... the whole Forbes Quadrangle is a lifeless harsh dismal zone of blank concrete

deja vu Jan 20, 2009 1:38 AM

And who can forget the notorious Boston City Hall? The epitomy of good intentions gone wrong.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...onCityhall.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...onCityhall.jpg

jetsetter Jan 20, 2009 3:08 AM

Just about the most depressing form of architecture ever conceived.

Jibba Jan 20, 2009 3:46 AM

Not sure if this qualifies as a legitimate example of the style, but I have always liked 55 West Wacker here in Chicago:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/...a5713c2978.jpg
Mark 2400-flickr

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/...7ae6e6.jpg?v=0
Mark 2400-flickr

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/203/5...4c3ffa20c6.jpg
24gotham-flickr

Some of my own photos:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1...3090701is6.jpg

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5...3100468nq2.jpg

Ch.G, Ch.G Jan 20, 2009 4:17 AM

^ 55 W Wacker would be so much nicer with transparent glazing.

It seems like most forms of progressive architecture undergo a period of popular contempt and derision that gradually gives way to enjoyment, even adoration. Sometimes it's a matter of familiarity, but more often I think it's a new context created by newer styles. I think anti-Brutalist sentiment, of which there is no shortage even among enthusiasts of Modernism, is a perfect example. In fifty years, when new technologies become more widely adopted and give birth to forms we have only previewed or yet unseen, popular opinion will swing towards Brutalism.

LMich Jan 20, 2009 5:06 AM

I'm never exactly sure how to differentiate Brutalism from simple Modernism, most of the time, but I think the Michigan Capitol Complex in Lansing is an example of Brutalism:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/...bdbd616e_o.jpg

dchan Jan 20, 2009 7:55 AM

How about pretty much all of SUNY Albany?

http://www.albany.edu/chemistry/nerfi/albany06.jpg

The campus looks pretty good during the summer and sunny days. But it's unbelievably drab and depressing on a snowy or cloudy day. My brother happened to be visiting it on one of these drab days after some snowfall - the school was offering him a boatload of shit besides a full scholarship, but I knew he wasn't going there after seeing how dreary the campus looked.

staff Jan 20, 2009 8:18 AM

The Landstadt Building in Malmö is the kind that has its "guts on the outside"..

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...berg_karin.JPG

Bergenser Jan 20, 2009 2:15 PM

^ I like it, it's so different, It wouldn't be nice if the whole city were filled with it, but I think it fits when buildt in small numbers.

manyin Jan 20, 2009 5:32 PM

Ex London Bank, Buenos Aires, Argentina, built by the architect Clorindo Testa

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/...d594d01939.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/...e2763621ed.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1395/...0bf0d1872c.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1178/...28b990ec68.jpg

I like it.. I think it has beautiful details

Jibba Jan 20, 2009 5:39 PM

Double.

Jibba Jan 20, 2009 5:49 PM

^Wow, that is quite fantastic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch.G, Ch.G (Post 4036096)
^ 55 W Wacker would be so much nicer with transparent glazing.

It seems like most forms of progressive architecture undergo a period of popular contempt and derision that gradually gives way to enjoyment, even adoration. Sometimes it's a matter of familiarity, but more often I think it's a new context created by newer styles. I think anti-Brutalist sentiment, of which there is no shortage even among enthusiasts of Modernism, is a perfect example. In fifty years, when new technologies become more widely adopted and give birth to forms we have only previewed or yet unseen, popular opinion will swing towards Brutalism.

I agree about 55WW in some respects. Part of what appeals to me about Brutalist-style structures is the apparent (often actual) structural exaggeration--they're just so heavy-duty looking and expressive. If you contrast this aspect with more transparent glass that allows for a glimpse into the "fragile" (by comparison with the structure, anyway) human occupancy within, the results can be really amazing. 55WW, as a result of its opaque glazing, is still in-your-face but with no depth--kind of a conflicting mix.

I also agree that Brutalism will improve with age, and mostly for the reasons you stated.

flar Jan 20, 2009 5:54 PM

McMaster Health Sciences Centre, Hamilton, Ontario.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ster/pano2.jpg


from http://www.aia.org/nwsltr_print.cfm?...0051019_change
Quote:

The McMaster Health Sciences Centre (MHSC) in Hamilton, Ontario, designed in 1972 by Craig, Zeidler, & Strong Architects, commemorates an important moment in hospital design. To keep a step ahead of the rapid changes taking place in medicine, Zeidler created an infinitely flexible space, deliberately designed never to be finished. This utopian vision, a concept of ever-changing architectural form, is demonstrated clearly in MHSC’s design, function, and image as a prototype of the “plug-in machine” modern hospital. While critics rejected the high-tech mechanical image of the hospital, others understood Zeidler’s intentions and appreciated his achievement. Even today, 30 years after the building was completed, its presence is powerful...MHSC, which was designed never to be finished, did not change in accordance with the original vision. The building did not follow its intended master plan, the expansion possibilities were not fulfilled, and the interior redevelopment was limited in scope. In this way, the vision that had intended to create an infinitely flexible and dynamic structure resulted in a static monument. Still, the importance of this project cannot be underestimated. MHSC is now an icon in the history of the modern high-tech hospital. Its bold design, which continues to raise many tough questions, denies any compromise in the expression of its utopian concept. It has stimulated the transition toward the postmodern hospital.

photoLith Jan 20, 2009 6:08 PM

I dont think there are any examples of it where I live and im glad for that.

muppet Jan 20, 2009 6:31 PM

London Ugly, ...worst to best

Guy's Hospital, tallest hospital in the world
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ital_tower.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/24...c20507.jpg?v=0


Trellick Tower, so ugly it's become an icon, and a listed building for Notting Hill's yuppies:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/...0bc958b6bf.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/30/50...3510c419fa.jpg http://www.urban75.org/photos/london/images/lon570.jpg

http://www.archinect.com/gallery/alb...rellick-04.JPG http://www.artofthestate.co.uk/photo...roke_grove.jpg

http://www.wingateprint.com/userimages/trellickBlue.jpg http://floatingworld.typepad.com/flo...lick_goods.jpg

Luxury brutalism, million dollar apartments at the Barbican Centre (also listed)

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-imag...arbican460.jpg http://londonist.com/attachments/tik...ican%2001r.jpg

http://www.niknkim.com/images/200803..._4073-edit.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8789/img1887gh7.jpg

http://www.c20society.org.uk/images/...ican_small.jpg http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/art/barbican4602.jpg

Brutalist rowhomes, Rowley Way

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ay_16-3-07.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2187/...62538a33e2.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/24...074b2e.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3039/...9b9777.jpg?v=0 http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...a/P1010135.jpg

http://www.xippas.com/i/artistes/gal...y/yb05_26a.jpg

bryson662001 Jan 20, 2009 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch.G, Ch.G (Post 4036096)
^ 55 W Wacker would be so much nicer with transparent glazing.

It seems like most forms of progressive architecture undergo a period of popular contempt and derision that gradually gives way to enjoyment, even adoration. Sometimes it's a matter of familiarity, but more often I think it's a new context created by newer styles. I think anti-Brutalist sentiment, of which there is no shortage even among enthusiasts of Modernism, is a perfect example. In fifty years, when new technologies become more widely adopted and give birth to forms we have only previewed or yet unseen, popular opinion will swing towards Brutalism.

You are so right. When I was young in the '60's and '70's Victorian and other late 19th and early 20th century styles were what everyone spit on. Young people today can't get enough of it. The question with Brutalisim is will it survive long enough to come back into fashion? Everywhere you look people are trying to "remodel" it or otherwise stamp it out.

deja vu Jan 20, 2009 7:16 PM

Ex London Bank, Buenos Aires, Argentina has amazing detail and I can't even grasp the shear scale of the Barbican Centre. It's also interesting to note how the McMaster Health Sciences Centre merges two strikingly different materials, glass and concrete.

ardecila Jan 20, 2009 7:47 PM

Habitat 67, Montreal - Moshe Safdie

http://urbalis.files.wordpress.com/2...tat-67-005.jpg

Johnland Jan 21, 2009 12:46 AM

Amazing thread. I didn't realize London has so many Brutalistic buildings.

Seeing Forbes Quadrangle reminded me of its sheer enormity. I think I read once that its the largest educational use building based on square footage.

CGII Jan 21, 2009 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMich (Post 4036202)
I'm never exactly sure how to differentiate Brutalism from simple Modernism

Brutalism, to me, is the concrete brand of Modernism. It's really kind of an arbitrary term to apply to fortress like concrete buildings.

muppet Jan 21, 2009 12:53 AM

London's got loads, and they're mostly terrible. Thankfully about 4-500 highrise apartment blocks in brutalist stylee have since been bulldozed since the 1960's, when they were all the rage.

They weren't nice brutale if you know what I mean but cheap, rain stained, dangerous brutale housing thousands in crime ridden conditions.

These are some survivors, London's worst areas:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SE9 (Post 30174894)
Some of Southeast London's worst areas...

As has been remarked before, they tend to be the housing projects... but here, they sprawl for blocks:


South Thamesmead
Used in various film sets for its 'rough' look.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...tavybridge.jpg


Ferrier Estate in Kidbrooke.
One of the most notorious locales in the area. Also used in film sets for its 'rough' look.

http://i42.tinypic.com/mafjao.jpg

Woolwich
The Woolwich area served an important function for the military, employing thousands at the barracks. As they shut down, they left thousands jobless. The north of Woolwich, near the River Thames, is lined with housing estates (projects) like the ones below. It is in the top 5% most deprived wards (local areas) in the United Kingdom:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/SE9/woolwich.jpg

I actually live in the area above, next to the chimney^

yyzer Jan 21, 2009 1:48 AM

Toronto's got a few 'brutes'....Robarts Library at the University of Toronto is probably the best/worst example....this flickr pic by lumina93...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/...999fdd07_b.jpg

StethJeff Jan 21, 2009 1:51 AM

:omg: :yuck: :runaway:

How did any of this stuff ever get built? Simply terrible.

HooverDam Jan 21, 2009 4:05 AM

http://tomforst.com/StateCaps/Arizona/Az07209.jpg

The Arizona state Capitol Executive Tower is pretty brutal and awful.

Not my photo though, I found it via googling on Tomforst.com

CGII Jan 21, 2009 4:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StethJeff (Post 4037981)
:omg: :yuck: :runaway:

How did any of this stuff ever get built? Simply terrible.

Having been to the Barbican personally, I think it's spectacularly beautiful-it really feels like some great natural monument.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/696/112qj8.jpg

Jibba Jan 21, 2009 5:33 AM

Those concrete row homes in London are dope.

Some weird hospital in Chicago (my photo):
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7...5768085zk0.jpg

Love this thing.

Xelebes Jan 21, 2009 6:09 AM

Some brutalism from the 70's: University of Alberta Hospital

http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/denti...es/dental1.jpg

Source: University of Alberta website.
http://www.dent.ualberta.ca/gpr.cfm

pj3000 Jan 21, 2009 6:36 AM

Fiorello Laguardia HS, NYC
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1169/...68c85b8c_b.jpg


Cleveland State University
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2205/...b6b69c.jpg?v=0


Dallas City Hall
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/4...0f585f.jpg?v=0


Stephen P. Clark Government Center, Miami
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mentcenter.jpg


photo credits: flickr

Loopy Jan 21, 2009 7:19 AM

One of the better examples of academic campus Brutalism
Humanities Building - University of Wisconsin-Madison
1969, Harry Weese and Associates

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3379/dsc00104zf2.jpg

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2618/dsc00105cm7.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/339/dsc00107gf3.jpg

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6305/dsc00108cb0.jpg

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/369/dsc00110hp6.jpg

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6520/dsc00111kg4.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3258/dsc00127ic2.jpg

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5584/dsc00133vf8.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3479/dsc00130vj3.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9339/dsc00137om6.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1307/dsc00139jg9.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/972/dsc00142ek0.jpg

plorenc Jan 21, 2009 7:36 AM

Atlanta-Fulton County Public Library
 
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/...distant(5).jpg

It grows on me every time I see it. Still, it is a giant block of concrete.

olga Jan 21, 2009 9:14 AM

Great thread. I'm a big fan of brutalism - when it's well done. Like any other style there are good and bad examples. A great example is Barbican IMO, I think it's fantastic.

MolsonExport Jan 21, 2009 1:13 PM

I work in this brutalist ooglie in London (Ontario). The Social Science Centre, University of Western Ontario.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/images/ssc-spring.jpg
source: UWO

staff Jan 21, 2009 8:47 PM

Some lovely stuff in here - and some less lovely stuff as well.

Atomic Glee Jan 21, 2009 9:03 PM

There's not a ton of this...stuff...around here, and frankly I don't want to give it any acknowledgement by posting photos of it. I have never seen a brutalist structure that wasn't horrible in at least some ways, and usually in all of them.

pj3000 Jan 21, 2009 9:44 PM

^ Fort Worth and Dallas actually have quite a bit of this "stuff"... unfortunately. Since this is a thread for crappy brutalist architecture, I gotta post some of the highlights... sorry.

Fort Worth's got a gem of a Brtualist city hall:
http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/municipl.jpg

and the city's tallest building is one helluva Brutalist monstrosity:
http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/burnett4.jpg

and who could forget the beautiful Texas Workforce Commission:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/...5f212899_o.jpg

photo credit: flickr

Evergrey Jan 21, 2009 10:01 PM

nice shot of the depressing interior of Posvar Hall.. the worst aspect of my University of Pittsburgh education was having to spend every waking moment inside this abomination...

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/scenc...cs/Posvar1.jpg

Atomic Glee Jan 21, 2009 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 4039516)
photo credit: flickr

No kidding - that's my own photo, actually. :haha:

Just because it exists doesn't mean we have to give it any sort of acknowledgement. It's better to let everybody forget about brutalism and then wipe it clean off the face of the Earth, and issue a proclamation that it shall never be constructed again.

pj3000 Jan 21, 2009 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic Glee (Post 4039542)
No kidding - that's my own photo, actually. :haha:

Just because it exists doesn't mean we have to give it any sort of acknowledgement. It's better to let everybody forget about brutalism and then wipe it clean off the face of the Earth, and issue a proclamation that it shall never be constructed again.

:haha: I think we need to document it so we do not construct such evil in our cities and on our college campuses ever again.

pj3000 Jan 21, 2009 10:28 PM

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Minato Ku Jan 21, 2009 11:15 PM

A common style in Paris

Mairie d'Ivry district

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC01622.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC01625.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC01627.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC01631.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC01636.jpg


Saint Denis Basilique district

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC02009.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC02013.jpg

Jibba Jan 22, 2009 12:38 AM

Another Harry Weiss, but a more refined and evolved Brutalist style:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4...4686376jj5.jpg

muppet Jan 22, 2009 12:42 AM

wow, this is fantastic. This gives brutalism a good name.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/DSC01622.jpg

CGII Jan 22, 2009 12:49 AM

No kidding. Brutralism looks awesome with overgrowth.

muppet Jan 22, 2009 1:01 AM

There's a really gorgeous example of brutalism in Oslo, some govt building. Anyone know its name?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/79/22...cf6f92.jpg?v=0 http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/4...408cdb.jpg?v=0

I think the frieze is by Piccasso. It's the tower behind that is perfectly composed, can't get a shot of its form though.

Minato Ku Jan 22, 2009 2:00 AM

Massena fire station in Paris

http://fr.structurae.de/files/photos...pompiers_7.jpg

http://fr.structurae.de/files/photos...pompiers_2.jpg

flar Jan 22, 2009 4:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 4038672)
I work in this brutalist ooglie in London (Ontario). The Social Science Centre, University of Western Ontario.
http://psychology.uwo.ca/images/ssc-spring.jpg
source: UWO

I did some time in there. Weldon Library is another brutalist building on campus that I actually like a bit.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Ontario_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Ontario_1.jpg


I'm surprised you didn't mention London, Ontario's notorious example, the court house:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ndon/00205.jpg

deja vu Jan 22, 2009 4:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evergrey (Post 4039540)
nice shot of the depressing interior of Posvar Hall.. the worst aspect of my University of Pittsburgh education was having to spend every waking moment inside this abomination...

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/scenc...cs/Posvar1.jpg

It reminds me of a prison, in many ways - which is ironic for a higher institution of learning.

eduardo88 Jan 22, 2009 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGII (Post 4038233)
Having been to the Barbican personally, I think it's spectacularly beautiful-it really feels like some great natural monument.

I really quite like Barbican Centre, but then again, i'm biased since i lived there for 2 semesters :P

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ll_bastion.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...side-large.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8...arbicandv6.jpg

TANGELD_SLC Jan 22, 2009 9:02 AM

Brutalism in Salt Lake City
 
LDS Church Office Building
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/63...ea756973_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/63...ea756973_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/3...14bcdcdca9.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/151/3...14bcdcdca9.jpg

I'd post more, but can't find the pics I want :irked:


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