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rgolch Oct 25, 2005 7:22 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInTheZone
slick!
as for competing with the fordham spire, does the chrysler building detract from the empire state? no! two spectacular buildings are better than one.
I think having two very tall, modern structures so close to each other (and having such a different look than the rest of the skyline) may be what people dislike. The ESB and Chrysler building have more distance between each other. I'll wait to see more renderings before making final judgement. And again, why talk about it in relation to fordham spire? As steely and tom think, FS has a low probability of becoming a reality.

chicago Oct 25, 2005 7:42 PM
The problem is that this is literally 100 yds (I checked on google maps) from the Fordham tower. It would be like the old WTC...but taller, and not matching buildings.

CTroyMathis Oct 25, 2005 7:47 PM
Quickie visual with less emphasis on complete accuracy:

http://dallasmetropolis.com/urbantem...gi-edited2.jpg

Segun Oct 25, 2005 7:54 PM
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rgolch Oct 25, 2005 7:57 PM
That makes me want it even more.

rgolch Oct 25, 2005 7:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CTroyMathis
Quickie visual with less emphasis on complete accuracy:

http://dallasmetropolis.com/urbantem...gi-edited2.jpg
Not as bad as I thought.

Steely Dan Oct 25, 2005 8:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CTroyMathis
Quickie visual with less emphasis on complete accuracy:

http://dallasmetropolis.com/urbantem...gi-edited2.jpg
nice work, troy.

is there anyway you could manipulate the image so that the Tall Tower stood immediately south of the river from fordham spire? i would think that these two fanciful behemoths on opposite banks of the river mouth would create one hell of a gateway statement, like something out of ancient mythology.

HowardL Oct 25, 2005 8:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInTheZone
slick!

why dont you all like it? imagine the view from an observation deck that high... almost twice the height of ESB, and you can see something like 60 miles from up there. it would be a landmark, it's too slim for the shadow to make much difference, and it wont add traffic to the surrounding area save for the people who would go to the deck. as for competing with the fordham spire, does the chrysler building detract from the empire state? no! two spectacular buildings are better than one.
Hmm, I think you may have swayed my thinking a bit. This morning I wasn't digging it too much. But you do have a point, you do.

LMich Oct 25, 2005 8:05 PM
I guess I'm the only one that likes it. I'm not a fan of twisting towers, at all. Still, everyone's right about the location.

Steely Dan Oct 25, 2005 8:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LMich
I guess I'm the only one that likes it.
that's not true at all (did you even bother to read my post where i likened it to a giant evil sky penis ;) ), many in this thread have said that they like the tower (myself included), it is merely the location that most are concerned about.

LostInTheZone Oct 25, 2005 8:22 PM
in that rendering showing the two of them, i think they look nice and balanced. theyre similar proportions. i do agree that it would be much better to have them on either sides of the mouth of the Chicago river. that would be an awsome gateway.

Stu Oct 25, 2005 8:28 PM
I've been waiting for this design since Steely first mentioned it a few years back. Back when it was clandestined information. :D

It is not disapointing. Looks more skyscraperish than telecom tower, which is good IMO. The location, from the quick rendering above, with Fordham, is actually awesome IMO. Kind of a King and Queen chessboard effect.

Me want close-up renderings.

jcchii Oct 25, 2005 8:31 PM
I think HDTV likely will wind up in fordham plans.

conspiracy theory would point to the last line of the Trib story:

"Beitler's partner, LR Development, also is co-owner of the site that developer Carley would buy for the Calatrava tower."

Steely Dan Oct 25, 2005 8:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu
I've been waiting for this design since Steely first mentioned it a few years back. Back when it was clandestined information. :D
yeah, i first saw plans for this tower roughly 3 years ago, but was more or less sworn to secrecy, all i was allowed to give out at the time were those vague and cryptic messages. it's been so long since i've heard anything about it that i simply asumed it was dead. fortunately, i was wrong.





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Originally Posted by Stu
Me want close-up renderings.
tom said that he probably still has the old scans from the B&W elevations and renders i had. he's gonna look for them when he gets home from work and post them.

rgolch Oct 25, 2005 8:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu
Kind of a King and Queen chessboard effect.
Excellent analogy!

Stephenapolis Oct 25, 2005 8:42 PM
I really like it. At first I did not like the location. Not completely sure if I still do. But it does give a gateway appearance. If they do not want it in Chicago, they could always put it in Minneapolis. ;)

spyguy Oct 25, 2005 8:43 PM
Come home from a bad day and BAM! Another 2000 ft building.

JACKinBeantown Oct 25, 2005 8:51 PM
These two towers, along with Trump and the others at or around 1,000 feet would definitely make Chicago's skyline the most impressive in the world. Dubai would have the tallest building and others that are tall, but Chicago would have six or seven supertalls.

Daquan13 Oct 25, 2005 8:53 PM
I wonder what Trump has to say about THIS one.

yoyoniner Oct 25, 2005 8:58 PM
If I read that article correctly, it looks like all the financing are already in place? Is that right?

So is this pretty much a for sure go? What are the hurdles?

Oh yeah.... was it also mentioned when they want to break ground? We know Carley wants to break ground in Spring for the Fordham Spire.... what about Beitler with this Tower?


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