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JACKinBeantown Mar 11, 2018 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8115345)
No, just that they have lots of space for their plans, and tall stuff generally happens where space is limited.

The location right next to the highway interchange means the view won't likely be impeded for a long time. So it's smart to take advantage of it regardless of how much property they own nearby. At the same time, if they build something smart it sets a positive track record for people wanting to be involved in any future developments on their other property.

micahinsa Mar 11, 2018 8:18 PM

When do they usually start putting renderings out for HDRC submissions? The next meeting is on the 21st, will we likely not see anything before then?

Spoiler Mar 11, 2018 10:42 PM

We likely won't see anything before then, and even at the HDRC meeting I'm guessing they will just show a rendering for massing, not design.

JACKinBeantown Mar 12, 2018 2:58 AM

The massing rendering will still be interesting to see.

ryan5021 Mar 16, 2018 11:54 PM

There are renderings on the HDRC agenda but i don't know how to upload.

jaga185 Mar 17, 2018 12:06 AM

It's a glass wall.... -_-

jaga185 Mar 17, 2018 12:10 AM

https://3snpdc2ba9m5uwuk62n8cs84-wpe...27.00-PM-1.png

https://therivardreport.com/wp-conte...2.26.23-PM.png

https://therivardreport.com/wp-conte...2.26.43-PM.png

Rynetwo Mar 17, 2018 12:16 AM

Very modern and at 260 feet I’d love for this to be built.

jaga185 Mar 17, 2018 12:21 AM

I kind want them to make it taller, like split the top part in half and put it on top of one another.
But I don't hate it. It's current.

Rynetwo Mar 17, 2018 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 8122919)
I kind want them to make it taller, like split the top part in half and put it on top of one another.

I can see that. I wonder if they would have said that would be taller than the area can handle?

AwesomeSAView Mar 17, 2018 12:31 AM


:cheers:
Like it! I hope with a few tweaks, this one gets built as well!!:tup:

jaga185 Mar 17, 2018 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rynetwo (Post 8122923)
I can see that. I wonder if they would have said that would be taller than the area can handle?

Possibly. It would also make it one of the tallest buildings in the city for sure as well, maybe they didn't want that.

JACKinBeantown Mar 17, 2018 1:00 AM

Is that a massing model? Hopefully, because in its current form it looks like something you'd see coming into Houston on I-10.

SAguy Mar 17, 2018 1:16 AM

Are you all not tired of seeing these wall like buildings?

This first one is the Grand Hyatt. If approved, the next one will be Hemisfair. And now? I feel like we are just settling cause of the height.

Here's hoping HDRC says, no.

Rynetwo Mar 17, 2018 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SAguy (Post 8122952)
Are you all not tired of seeing these wall like buildings?

This first one is the Grand Hyatt. If approved, the next one will be Hemisfair. And now? I feel like we are just settling cause of the height.

Here's hoping HDRC says, no.

Wrong. I like the design and the height. I think the rendering makes this look more wallish than it is. That lat is not big at all.

As for the suburban Houston comment? This interacts with the ground level very nicely. The HDRC has asked to make it work even better for the pedestrian.

This is a forum of opinions.

Spoiler Mar 17, 2018 1:36 AM

It's pretty plain.

Rynetwo Mar 17, 2018 1:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8122974)
It's pretty plain.

If this was proposed for Houston I’d agreed. San Antonio has to start with something “basic” modern. Not every building will be the Frost tower.

Spoiler Mar 17, 2018 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rynetwo (Post 8122981)
If this was proposed for Houston I’d agreed. San Antonio has to start with something “basic” modern. Not every building will be the Frost tower.

I disagree. I've heard this tired refrain "We can't do that here, this is San Antonio" my entire life. It's nothing but a self-fulfilling prophecy. we don't need to build a modern building in 2018 that is no improvement from buildings that were built fifty years ago, like this one:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5201...2!8i6656?hl=en

Rynetwo Mar 17, 2018 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8123000)
I disagree. I've heard this tired refrain "We can't do that here, this is San Antonio" my entire life. It's nothing but a self-fulfilling prophecy. we don't need to build a modern building in 2018 that is no improvement from buildings that were built fifty years ago, like this one:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5201...2!8i6656?hl=en

I have no idea what your google image is trying to convey.

This is a modern design, but if they improve it I am all for it. That said, I’d love it built as designed.

The ATX Mar 17, 2018 3:03 AM

Here's the link to the presentation that includes the renderings and a lot of other info:

https://sanantonio.legistar.com/Legi...5-3DF7B76BEF13

According to the presentation it will have 18 occupied above ground floors. The rendering looks to be missing two hotel levels. The 20 floors not including the mechanical level breakdown as:

2 - underground parking
3 - above ground parking with retail on the first level
4 - office
1- amenity level
10 - hotel


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