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JJG May 27, 2008 1:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepSanAntonioLame (Post 3568932)
actually I love San Antonio. keep san antonio lame is supposed to be like keep austin weird.

Sorry to get off topic and pull up an old post....... but, keep San Antonio lame?

Well, if it works.....
I know that's the last slogan my city needs.....

Anyway, San Antonio has a pretty nice skyline. But do anyone of you know why San Antonio isn't building taller?

KeepSanAntonioLame May 27, 2008 1:10 AM

I understand it to be because SA has few large businesses, and alot of those chose to locate their campuses in the burbs.

alexjon May 27, 2008 2:05 AM

San Antonio has a good deal of large businesses, but where the problem lies is the archaic laws the conservation society has forced on the city.

Cheaper and easier to build campuses

KeepSanAntonioLame May 27, 2008 2:08 AM

I wouldn't say the Conservation Society is being completely unreasonable. Without them we wouldn't have a lot of structures that make SA unique.

The Model May 27, 2008 2:13 AM

About Vidorra,
I heard that some of the customer that had purchased units during the design phase, were very upset with the change in design for the condo.
I talked to someone in there sales office, and they said it was the historical society, complaining about the building not fitting in with the St. Pauls Square area.:slob:

My beef, about the conservation society, is that they did nothing to save the Brackenridge Swiss Sky ride, which was a great way to experience the SA skyline.

ScizzoTX May 27, 2008 4:46 AM

I actually like the new Vidorra design more than the original one with the fins. The original design looked like it was more suited for the Pearl District here in Portland than San Antonio. What "looks cool" in one city doesn't necessarily fit in another. I'm glad the historical society was able to get the design changed.

In the future I'd like to see a couple of buildings like the Vidorra show up in River North.

sirkingwilliam May 27, 2008 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepSanAntonioLame (Post 3576124)
I wouldn't say the Conservation Society is being completely unreasonable. Without them we wouldn't have a lot of structures that make SA unique.

This is unique? This is San Antonio? This downtown.

:yuck:

http://www.all-hotels.com/images/hot...ntaccfront.jpg

Raining Inside May 27, 2008 9:50 AM

I think the Conservation Society is doing its best to keep San Antonio lame. ;)

Schertz1 May 27, 2008 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sirkingwilliam (Post 3576627)
This is unique? This is San Antonio? This downtown.

:yuck:

http://www.all-hotels.com/images/hot...ntaccfront.jpg



Every city has cheesy mid level hotels downtown. Don't expect too much from the new Embassy Suites; it will not look any better.

sakyle04 May 27, 2008 4:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schertz1 (Post 3576855)
Every city has cheesy mid level hotels downtown. Don't expect too much from the new Embassy Suites; it will not look any better.

I don't know.... I think the Embassy Suites will either go with the colorful look (Valencia) or the faux-historic look. I can't see the HDRC approving another building that looks like the Holiday Inn on the Riverwalk...and I don't think that a building on Houston Street and the Riverwalk could ever be quite as cheesy as the La Quinta at the intersection of Parking lot and Interstate.

KeepSanAntonioLame May 27, 2008 10:45 PM

I'm not saying the CS is perfect, far from it. Lots of times I think they go after the wrong things, and then something more important gets torn down. But if they didn't exist there would be no one to preserve historic structures in a historic city. They just need to prioritize.

KeepSanAntonioLame May 28, 2008 2:21 AM

Found something about the AT&T site:

http://www.sanantonioriver.org/sbc_site.html

This is probably completely outdated, since its SBC. But hey, its something.

sirkingwilliam May 28, 2008 9:21 AM

The best thing was the Mayor downsizing the HDRC. That'll help in the long run.

sirkingwilliam May 28, 2008 9:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KeepSanAntonioLame (Post 3578034)
Found something about the AT&T site:

http://www.sanantonioriver.org/sbc_site.html

This is probably completely outdated, since its SBC. But hey, its something.

It is very outdated. The building (drawing) to the left is actually a SAHA's development.

KeepSanAntonioLame May 28, 2008 10:10 PM

http://www.ihgplc.com/index.asp?Page...d=allothernews

ydoc14 May 29, 2008 2:47 AM

Taken by schriver @ Flickr

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/...a18e6238_b.jpg

oldmanshirt May 29, 2008 3:09 AM

Two questions:

A) Is there some ordinance besides "no building can be visible behind the Alamo" that's preventing those parking lots from being something other than, well, parking lots?

B) Why the heck does Days Inn need that many signs?

ydoc14 May 29, 2008 4:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanshirt (Post 3580232)
Two questions:

A) Is there some ordinance besides "no building can be visible behind the Alamo" that's preventing those parking lots from being something other than, well, parking lots?

B) Why the heck does Days Inn need that many signs?

A. Don't think so other than a building can't be visible behind the Alamo.

B. Looks like there's three different Days Inns?

kornbread May 29, 2008 4:46 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanshirt (Post 3580232)
Two questions:

A) Is there some ordinance besides "no building can be visible behind the Alamo" that's preventing those parking lots from being something other than, well, parking lots?

B) Why the heck does Days Inn need that many signs?

A) No ordinance, there is just no reason to build anything.
B) This photo actually captures another dimension that shows the sign gaining strength and moving to take over downtown.

jaga185 May 29, 2008 9:18 AM

I see great residential potential right here. Low-rises, 3-5 stories, mixed-use, bottom retail or office, underground parking.


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