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my favourite recent perimeter criticism is still the vet clinic opposed to his clients soon having to use an access road to get to his business... imagine one business thinking they're important enough to alter the safety and functionality of nationally significant piece of infrastructure LOL
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That said, it seems there is finally enough global support for a limited access freeway that MI can take their stand rather than caving for localized opposition of people losing their private access to Perimeter. The media definitely loves to get one contrarian opinion every time there's a government proposal out so its no surprise St Mary's deer guy made it to CTV news. |
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If it takes someone 1 minute longer. nope zero support. They'd rather jut out across the roadway in high speed traffic.
The vet will actually have the road 8E interchange just a half mile away. So they'll have pretty good access from the west. They'll have nothing to the east as the get blocked in by the railway. Would need to head south and connect to PR 330. Not sure what time frame the 8E interchange would be though. Seems like it would be quite low on the priority list. However it would be one of the cheaper interchanges. |
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IMO this is too big to be shut down by some local people. Even if they get organized Seems like there have been extensive consultations done already with many options to choose from.
Specific to Oak Bluff, I think they've dealt with that area fairly well. Pushed the highway away from the town, minimizing noise, etc. The new interchange cleans up the road network very well. |
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When I was over in the UK driving around I really liked the design of the interchanges on the UK motorways like the M1 where they have a separate big roundabout above/below grade-separated from the main motorway. So you end up having 2 bridges crossing the motorway as the big roundabout handles the traffic for through-traffic on the non-major road only and any entering/exiting traffic from the main motorway. This leaves the main motorway free-flowing through the entire thing either above or below. It's too bad I've never seen this kind of design here. Takes only slightly more space than a diamond yet it works at least as well as a parclo without taking up nearly as much land. This is pretty much the most common type of interchange you'll see throughout the UK yet I've never seen them in North America. Example: https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/0d/9f/LZKnhjUe_t.jpg https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c0/22/cdZwjqd1_t.jpg |
The people that would complain with the vet (and the vet) are the same people complaining about all the accidents and deaths around there. Too stupid to realize the former is how you solve the latter.
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The problem is when the interests of the thousands of daily highway drivers are overlooked because one resident or business owner along the way kicks up a fuss over the prospect of having to drive an extra kilometre or whatever, and then the local MLA intervenes and gets the highways department to change its plans as has happened in the past. The end result is you have dangerous access points left open, contrary to the principles of good expressway design. So really, the issue here isn't when concerns are raised so much as it is what happens when those concerns are acted upon. ;) |
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Of course public consultation, notification, hearings, appeals, etc. should be part of the process. But in Manitoba it seems the loudest cry of "but I wasn't consulted!" often trumps vision, policy, and design. |
Any words on this from the premier at today's lunch?
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RCMP member killed yesterday at 1630 in head on collision near 101 and 7. Tragic
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