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metrocity567 Jan 10, 2015 6:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bushman61988 (Post 6870033)
You guys should check out this architects website. He has some pretty amazing renderings of built project and visionary stuff. This idea is probably my favorite... and why not?

http://joecordelle.com/images/san%20diego%20icon006.jpg

http://joecordelle.com/images/aerial%20copy.jpg

That supertall skyscraper looks amazing for the city of San Diego. Looking forward to see this building in San Diego in the future.

tyleraf Jan 10, 2015 4:44 PM

I emailed David Malmuth of the IDEA Partners and he informed me that they are targeting groundbreaking for IDEA1 in October with completion planned for 20 months later. New renders should be released soon.

Leo the Dog Jan 10, 2015 4:53 PM

While the super tall is probably an elegant structure, I wouldn't be in favor of it for San Diego.

It would dwarf and minimalize our existing photogenic skyline, especially given the location on the waterfront.

SDCAL Jan 10, 2015 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo the Dog (Post 6870243)
While the super tall is probably an elegant structure, I wouldn't be in favor of it for San Diego.

It would dwarf and minimalize our existing photogenic skyline, especially given the location on the waterfront.

I disagree, I think it kind of anchors downtown and adds some depth to the skyline. The way we are going now with the height limit, our skyline looks like a low plateau, not very attractive IMO. The problem with the rendering above (other than it being complete fantasy :) ) is that waterfront developments like lane field etc. aren't reflected in it (I'm guessing it's a really old rendering) so it has this mega tall tower that looks like it's in the middle of barren waterfront land. I think with the other waterfront projects filled-out, this would anchor downtown. Anyway, it's not as if this city is going to build anything like that in my lifetime, or maybe when I'm 70 or 80 years old :(

eburress Jan 10, 2015 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 6870333)
I disagree, I think it kind of anchors downtown and adds some depth to the skyline. The way we are going now with the height limit, our skyline looks like a low plateau, not very attractive IMO. The problem with the rendering above (other than it being complete fantasy :) ) is that waterfront developments like lane field etc. aren't reflected in it (I'm guessing it's a really old rendering) so it has this mega tall tower that looks like it's in the middle of barren waterfront land. I think with the other waterfront projects filled-out, this would anchor downtown. Anyway, it's not as if this city is going to build anything like that in my lifetime, or maybe when I'm 70 or 80 years old :(

Agreed. On top of that, ideally, this wouldn't be the only >500ft building downtown/

All that said, the best case scenario for SD getting a high rise like that is ~50 years...and maybe that's optimistic.

bushman61988 Jan 11, 2015 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eburress (Post 6870584)
Agreed. On top of that, ideally, this wouldn't be the only >500ft building downtown/

All that said, the best case scenario for SD getting a high rise like that is ~50 years...and maybe that's optimistic.

Also agreed. The great height of the tower helps break up the plateau of the skyline and maybe having a tower so tall would help usher in new buildings that would also help break up the height monotony. It look around 1,000 feet tall in this picture, but I think it would be amazing even if it was 700 or 800 feet. Maybe if it was simple, completely clad in a blue glass facade that is lit up at night... I also love the dome adjacent to the tower... kind of reminds me of the California Tower relative to the Museum of Man Dome.

I think this is more of a fantasy kind of rendering, but I would prefer a tower like this rather than a Ferris Wheel. Maybe the architect/artist who did this rendering could submit a design for this building with a location at the G-Street Mole instead of the Ferris Wheel proposal.

My problem with the Ferris Wheel is that it's already been done in London and now Vegas... why can't San Diego be unique or come up with something original? (Rhetorical question, I guess).

Or what if the Tower/Dome concept this architect proposes is combined with this Quigley/Saskai Concept for a complete re-design of Seaport Village (everyone forgot about this re-design proposal that won the competition):

http://www.robquigley.com/Project_Pa...borfront1.jpeg

http://www.robquigley.com/Project_Pa...borfront3.jpeg

http://www.robquigley.com/Project_Pa...borfront5.jpeg

Dariusb Jan 11, 2015 5:09 AM

Wow, looks like San Diego has some good stuff on board!

metrocity567 Jan 11, 2015 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman61988 (Post 6870609)
Also agreed. The great height of the tower helps break up the plateau of the skyline and maybe having a tower so tall would help usher in new buildings that would also help break up the height monotony. It look around 1,000 feet tall in this picture, but I think it would be amazing even if it was 700 or 800 feet. Maybe if it was simple, completely clad in a blue glass facade that is lit up at night... I also love the dome adjacent to the tower... kind of reminds me of the California Tower relative to the Museum of Man Dome.

I think this is more of a fantasy kind of rendering, but I would prefer a tower like this rather than a Ferris Wheel. Maybe the architect/artist who did this rendering could submit a design for this building with a location at the G-Street Mole instead of the Ferris Wheel proposal.

My problem with the Ferris Wheel is that it's already been done in London and now Vegas... why can't San Diego be unique or come up with something original? (Rhetorical question, I guess).

Or what if the Tower/Dome concept this architect proposes is combined with this Quigley/Saskai Concept for a complete re-design of Seaport Village (everyone forgot about this re-design proposal that won the competition):

http://www.robquigley.com/Project_Pa...borfront1.jpeg

http://www.robquigley.com/Project_Pa...borfront3.jpeg

http://www.robquigley.com/Project_Pa...borfront5.jpeg

I am looking forward to see this to be built in San Diego. I love this city!!

Streamliner Jan 11, 2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bushman61988 (Post 6870609)

My problem with the Ferris Wheel is that it's already been done in London and now Vegas... why can't San Diego be unique or come up with something original? (Rhetorical question, I guess).

Not to mention Singapore, Seattle, Melbourne, and our sister city Yokohama.

Leo the Dog Jan 12, 2015 12:08 AM

I would be in favor of a supertall being built in the core of DT buildings, not along the waterfront.

It's a fun fantasy because we all know this would never happen. (In our lifetimes).

spoonman Jan 12, 2015 3:28 AM

All that needs to happen is move the airport...lol. Maybe that can happen inside of 30 or 40 years

eburress Jan 12, 2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6871412)
All that needs to happen is move the airport...lol. Maybe that can happen inside of 30 or 40 years

After having sunk a bunch of new money into the airport, it will be at least that long before the city could justify moving it.

dtell04 Jan 12, 2015 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6870237)
I emailed David Malmuth of the IDEA Partners and he informed me that they are targeting groundbreaking for IDEA1 in October with completion planned for 20 months later. New renders should be released soon.

I was looking forward to this starting soon. So much for first quarter.

metrocity567 Jan 12, 2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6871412)
All that needs to happen is move the airport...lol. Maybe that can happen inside of 30 or 40 years

If that happens, San Diego will get supertall skyscrapers in it's downtown area of San Diego.

mello Jan 13, 2015 4:41 AM

I think the perfect place aesthetically for a 700 to 850 foot tower which could be realistic if height limits were lifted would be the lot freed up by the new court house on Broadway (Between Union and Front). It would be right in the center of the skyline and when viewed from the pretty much every angle it would be a focal point and then step down to the 500 foot plateau completely surrounding it.

Northparkwizard Jan 13, 2015 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 6872542)
I think the perfect place aesthetically for a 700 to 850 foot tower which could be realistic if height limits were lifted would be the lot freed up by the new court house on Broadway (Between Union and Front). It would be right in the center of the skyline and when viewed from the pretty much every angle it would be a focal point and then step down to the 500 foot plateau completely surrounding it.

So there are plans to put the old courthouse & property up for sale once the new one is operational? The current one is nearly 2 and a half city blocks and connected to SD Central Jail. Wonder if there's a subterranean tunnel to SD Central Jail for the new courthouse? Plans for a new Jail?

mello Jan 13, 2015 10:09 PM

Yes there are plans to build a tower on Broadway when the new Courthouse is finished. I'm sure the new facility will have some kind of underground connection to jail. There is no way the City wants to have that terrible rotting structure sitting there on a prime lot on Broadway.

SDfan Jan 14, 2015 1:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 6873406)
Yes there are plans to build a tower on Broadway when the new Courthouse is finished. I'm sure the new facility will have some kind of underground connection to jail. There is no way the City wants to have that terrible rotting structure sitting there on a prime lot on Broadway.

From what I remember reading, neither the city nor the state had designated funds to demo the old county courthouse on Broadway. The plan, from what I remember, was to mothball the site until they could figure out what redevelopment would be feasible for the site.

HurricaneHugo Jan 14, 2015 6:05 AM

The stupid Ferris Wheel survives its first test:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/...heel-port-bay/

SDfan Jan 14, 2015 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 6873924)
The stupid Ferris Wheel survives its first test:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/...heel-port-bay/

This won't get passed the coastal commission.


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