CHICAGO | St. Regis Chicago (Vista) | 1,191 FT | 101 FLOORS
Height: 1,186 ft
Floor count: 98 Location: 375 East Wacker (Lakeshore East) Construction end: 2018 Architect: Studio Gang Architects Developer: Wanda Group and Magellan Development Group (joint venture) http://www.llnyc.com/wp-content/uplo...16/04/1x-1.jpg |
http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/...ik-d4cw2di.png
:cheers: Jeanne Gang tower??? This plan seems pretty advance, funding won't be an issue, as long as there are no road-blocks. |
Better article of the Wanda Group hotel project.
http://www.nzweek.com/business/wanda...hicago-114885/ |
Beat me to it ndrwmls10
|
Good God, hell yes to this news.
|
Sooo this is the Jeanee Gang tower we are concluding?
|
Quote:
|
this is great, but i hope it doesn't hurt the spire's ability to get funding, I know spire will be condo's, but Related did have interest in building some apts in the spire
|
Article and pix:
http://english.sina.com/business/p/2...08/716632.html |
|
Gang designed that?...
|
A 6 story increase from May.
|
This seems more likely than a supertall Spire. Hope this news is true.
|
At 350m, that would make this the third tallest building in Chicago. And the John Hancock would be fifth!
|
Quote:
|
dont' really like it, honestly feel i would rather have a box than this one, it just looks like 3 buildings stacked next to each other....maybe if the tallest section was in the middle it would seem more unified
|
Like the height, ok design
|
Sorry but I'm just not feelin it. :runaway:
|
^^ If the corners had balconies - 1/2 with the walls receding behind you, and 1/2 with the corner looming over your head.
|
Confimed by a more mainstream source:
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/chinas-...&mg=reno64-wsj I'm even suprised how accurate my sketch was: http://imgur.com/b4ag5iS.jpg |
Not sure how I feel about the design. I think it would be better as two tall sections on each side. Something more like this... (quick job to give the idea)
http://kngkyle.com/uploads/2014-07-08_2147.png Perhaps cut the height of the middle section in half as well. |
ugh yea, this design is bothering me more and more as i look at it, Its great to have a super tall in chicago, but unlike LA's Wilshire, SF salesforce, and Philly's Comcast, or the spire all of which will be instant classics, this design is a turd, the three diff heights.....just really makes it look like 3 sep buildings...IMO if it was just slightly thinner and looked liked a single tower vs 3 thing tower it would look great.
Honestly, LouisVanDerWright, your sketches are 100000000x better, i hope to god this isn't the final design |
YEE HAW!!
Now we're back in business! Even if this tower looks like something from Dubai... I expected a little more refinement out of Jeanne Gang... Also, this doesn't look like 350m tall. Possibly in the 900'-1000' range though. |
Maybe this isn't the design? The first reports in May had the tower at 83 stories.
|
Hmm, yeah, really underwhelmed by this. I guess it's like when you think a movie is going to be so amazing and then it's just ok.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Well I personally love the Gang design. It is the most adventurous Chicago highrise design since the Spire. I'm so sick of glass boxes and halfbaked concrete pomo designs. This is a refreshing departure even if Gang is a master at green washing.
|
Well, nice to get something other than another bland box that we always seems to get. Nevertheless, my first reaction is a little guarded. Not sure I love it. It does seem a little ungainly, and chunky. Definitely not from the tall and thin school of thinking. Maybe it'll grow on me over time :shrug:.
EDIT: It looks better after I zoom the image and notice a lot more detail. |
If this is the real design indeed, then I'm more than satisfied with it at this location. There's still the site at LSE that hugs LSD, and this design is far superior and more interesting than 111 wacker by an immeasurable margin. There could potentially be 2 more supertalls within a few hundred yards of this futuristic building- if built. I think most of us chicago folks are in no position to be anything less than excited about this. We'll see how legit this financing is, and only time will tell whether this is realistic. However, I'm excited to even see something like this pop up and grab my interest for now.
|
More trivia than anything else, but a building there would kill most of the view of Aqua from the river (meaning the tour boat crowd would see less of it). I guess Gang probably wouldn't care since the thing blocking the view of her building is also her building.
|
CHICAGO | LSE - Wanda Group Tower | 1,148 FT | 89 FLOORS |
Yowzer!!!!
Me likey very much. |
I feel the need to relink Can We Please Stop Drawing Trees on Top of Skyscrapers?
|
Quote:
I'm not feeling it either. The third piece looks out of place. Maybe AT&T would use this building to advertise its 5 bar reception service though :shrug: |
Quote:
I would almost like to see a smooth, curved look as opposed to the angled look, it would fit with Aqua better. This: ( ) ) ( ( ) ) ( ( ) as opposed to this: \ / / \ \ / / \ \ / And with the highest portion, continue the contour, even just a skeleton, and have a spire that adds 200' or so. |
This is cool
|
Quote:
|
Some initial thoughts -
-I agree the massing is kind of awkward. (Maybe it could be mitigated by having a lighter color or feel to the tallest protruding portion, and a heavier color or feel to the lower portions, or some other commonly-deployed visual sleight of hand.) I wonder why the center and west portions are so short; it would look better if they were taller by a frustum or two. After all, rents are higher on higher floors. -Magellan will no longer be in control, as Wanda is buying 90% of the project. With Magellan retaining only 10%, and this being a new 5-star hotel market entry for Wanda, maybe we can expect much less VE-ing? -Despite it becoming a Wanda project, they're sticking with Gang and the basic plans she and Magellan came up with. This seems it could raise the prospect that other successful local developers could become "pre-developers" who prepackage location identification, parcel and approvals preparation, programs, and designs for Chinese or other information-poor, capital-abundant developers who come in and take over. (Probably what Davies was thinking at the Post Office, although he found a local partner, so far.) It goes beyond just raising debt or equity from those parts of the world; it provides an excellent, easy conduit for foreign developers to successfully, quickly enter the Chicago market, and also could allow our local developers to quickly free their teams to start looking at further projects. -This height would exceed NYC's One57 and most supertalls proposed there, other than three that are impossibly thin and would be impressive if completed but are hardly assured of reaching that stage. -If there wasn't a Chinese word for "frustum" yet, there sure will be now. |
Wow. This thing is gonna be huge! Can't wait to see better renderings. I'm really sick of blue glass; hopefully it gets darker. Idk. Cool massing though.
|
I understand the apprehension towards the design. It's definitely different, but it has an oddly "Chicago" flair to it...in the sense that these tube-like structures of three different heights are aligned in a row in a way that's not unlike the 9 bundled tubes of the Willis Tower. Kind of like a strange love-child between Willis and Trump. Also it's clear that this rendering is preliminary and that the design will likely be fine-tuned somewhat.
I'll wait and see. I just still want them to build The Chicago at Michigan and Roosevelt XD |
Didn't see this article posted. I thought it read better.
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...akeshore-east/ |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Hopefully it will look better once its completed. |
IDK, it's a pretty ugly tower IMO
|
I like the design AND the height! This spot is screaming for a supertall just like this! :)
But I can't help but feel "Where's the Spire?" (Hence, the Chicago Spire!) |
Quote:
I've loved pretty much every project she's done in Chicago |
Quote:
|
^^ Think the reference there was to God, not Gang.
At any rate, my initial reaction to the rendering is a bit on the underwhelmed side as well, however that could be just as much or more a function of incredibly high expectations as anything else. It's got potential - and a lot of potential to grow on me as well. Wondering of course just how 'final' the design is in this rendering..... Also, the wsj article seemed to imply a total project cost of no more than approximately $250 million. Seems to me to be at least somewhat on the low side to build what's in that rendering (and keeping in mind luxury hotel and condos for the residential)........Actually, scratch that - that up to $250 million would only be the equity investment I'm assuming.....total cost including debt of course could be much more........I have a feeling the leverage here will likely end up being quite a bit lower than other 'similar' projects..... |
Simply brilliant exchange between LVDW and Pilsenarch. Pretty much spot-on. Bravo!
Quote:
Quote:
|
I want to judge this negatively just as I judge the Spire negatively but in both I think the materials will look much different from the actual renders so this might be a masterpiece or a turd depending on the materials.
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 8:22 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.