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iheartthed Jul 22, 2019 7:16 PM

Where are millennials moving?
 
Per Haven Life's newly released study of large metros, western U.S. metropolises lead the nation in growth of millennial aged population over the most recent 5 year period. The top 5 metros by percentage growth were Portland, Seattle, Denver, San Francisco, and Austin. No metro area in the northeast made the top 20, and while two metro areas did from the Midwest. Those two metros were Columbus, OH (#19) and Minneapolis (#20).

Counterintuitively, the metro area that suffered the worst loss of millennial aged residents was also in the west: Tucson, Az. Virginia Beach and Rochester, NY, were the only other two metros to show negative growth in millennial aged residents.

Growth rates in the U.S.'s three largest metropolises were mostly mediocre. New York performed the best of the three, coming in at the #30 on the list, with a 5.5% growth rate. Los Angeles's* (tied at #33) millennial population grew by 3.2% and Chicago's (#38) by 2%.

*The Inland Empire (#35) grew at a similar 3.1%.

Full list here: https://havenlife.com/blog/where-are...nnials-moving/

mhays Jul 22, 2019 9:39 PM

Wow, their headline writer is an idiot.

It's about population change, not just where anyone is moving. Obviously there are other factors.

badrunner Jul 22, 2019 10:02 PM

But there aren't any new millennials being created, just as there aren't any new gen Xers being created. Any percentage change has to be a result of the movement of people.

xzmattzx Jul 22, 2019 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by badrunner (Post 8638839)
But there aren't any new millennials being created, just as there aren't any new gen Xers being created. Any percentage change has to be a result of the movement of people.

Millennials are people born in what years?

dubu Jul 22, 2019 10:29 PM

theres a bunch of millennials that move to portland from all over. i was talking to one guy here in bend that said he moved to portland from the uk. he was visiting here

James Bond Agent 007 Jul 22, 2019 10:35 PM

I am sooooo glad I'm not a millennial.

badrunner Jul 22, 2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xzmattzx (Post 8638867)
Millennials are people born in what years?

'81-96 according to that article

dubu Jul 22, 2019 10:46 PM

ive waisted 3946 days of my life posting on forums. but ive found so much cool music and stuff on the internet so its worth it i guess. the generation befor me is even worse.

xzmattzx Jul 22, 2019 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by badrunner (Post 8638883)
'81-96 according to that article

So it is possible that Millennials are being "created", since this mentions growth over a 5-year period. Those years are 2012-2017, but in 2012, Millennials born in the 1990s were either in high school or college. Now they are in the workforce.

Pedestrian Jul 22, 2019 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8638651)
Counterintuitively, the metro area that suffered the worst loss of millennial aged residents was also in the west: Tucson, Az.

This should be no surprise to anyone (and it's not "counterintuitive"). Tucson is a large college town, cram packed with students at the University of Arizona. On the other hand, it has a limited supply of jobs for those the U of A educates (most jobs in the metro are either low skill/low wage or blue collar except for the University staff and a few outliers like Raytheon). In San Francisco it often seems like half the people I meet are from Arizona, frequently Tucson. There is generally a huge "brain drain" of UofA grads to California coastal cities (my house cleaner in Tucson has two college educated kids--she's very middle class--who both moved to CA).

mhays Jul 23, 2019 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badrunner (Post 8638839)
But there aren't any new millennials being created, just as there aren't any new gen Xers being created. Any percentage change has to be a result of the movement of people.

It looks like you're responding to my post. But if so you're not getting the point.

maru2501 Jul 23, 2019 12:27 AM

It's time to start writing about where Gen Z is going, since they are the ones leaving college now. A lot of millennials are well into their 30s, with kids, which is called an adult

millennials were 24 and glued to their phones... 10 years ago

SpawnOfVulcan Jul 23, 2019 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8638651)
Per Haven Life's newly released study of large metros, western U.S. metropolises lead the nation in growth of millennial aged population over the most recent 5 year period. The top 5 metros by percentage growth were Portland, Seattle, Denver, San Francisco, and Austin. No metro area in the northeast made the top 20, and while two metro areas did from the Midwest. Those two metros were Columbus, OH (#19) and Minneapolis (#20).

Counterintuitively, the metro area that suffered the worst loss of millennial aged residents was also in the west: Tucson, Az. Virginia Beach and Rochester, NY, were the only other two metros to show negative growth in millennial aged residents.

Growth rates in the U.S.'s three largest metropolises were mostly mediocre. New York performed the best of the three, coming in at the #30 on the list, with a 5.5% growth rate. Los Angeles's* (tied at #33) millennial population grew by 3.2% and Chicago's (#38) by 2%.

*The Inland Empire (#35) grew at a similar 3.1%.

Full list here: https://havenlife.com/blog/where-are...nnials-moving/

Wow, the writer's idea of regions in the US is horribly warped. Grouping Denver with Seattle? Portland and Austin? Surrrrrrrrrrrre, those are "western" cities.

badrunner Jul 23, 2019 5:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xzmattzx (Post 8638892)
So it is possible that Millennials are being "created", since this mentions growth over a 5-year period. Those years are 2012-2017, but in 2012, Millennials born in the 1990s were either in high school or college. Now they are in the workforce.

Those millennials are not a part of the study:

Quote:

The Pew Research Center’s definition of millennials is people born from 1981 to 1996. In 2012, the youngest millennials were still in their teens. In order to exclude those who were likely still in school, the analysis was done only on people who were at least 20 in 2012, i.e. born between 1981 and 1992.

badrunner Jul 23, 2019 5:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mhays (Post 8638969)
It looks like you're responding to my post. But if so you're not getting the point.

What exactly is your point then? The headline is perfectly accurate, if you understand the data being presented.

mhays Jul 23, 2019 6:02 AM

Read the article then look at the headline. It should be clear the two aren't saying the same thing. Let me spell it out...

1. The article says "Where are millennials moving?"

2. The list in the article is about net population change.

Get it?

iheartthed Jul 23, 2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhays (Post 8639187)
Read the article then look at the headline. It should be clear the two aren't saying the same thing. Let me spell it out...

1. The article says "Where are millennials moving?"

2. The list in the article is about net population change.

Get it?

All millennials existed on Earth five years ago. The only way for local populations to increase would be through migration.

PhilliesPhan Jul 23, 2019 1:01 PM

People are still writing about Millennials? It's time to start writing about my generation, Gen Z! Your typical Millennial is in their 30s nowadays.

Handro Jul 23, 2019 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilliesPhan (Post 8639275)
People are still writing about Millennials? It's time to start writing about my generation, Gen Z! Your typical Millennial is in their 30s nowadays.

"Millennial" became the catchall for "young people" to the Boomer/older Gen X generations when they want to complain about "kids today." To people over 50, you're a millennial, too.

CherryCreek Jul 23, 2019 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartthed (Post 8639263)
All millennials existed on Earth five years ago. The only way for local populations to increase would be through migration.

True. Lol. If no millennials have been born in a city in the last five years (true everywhere), then all the new millennials in a city must have moved there. Hence, the headline is correct. As Spock would say, it's logical!


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