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Cyro Apr 3, 2017 10:23 PM

Saskatoon Construction III
 
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Cyro Apr 3, 2017 10:25 PM

A few previous Posts from the last thread. If anyone would like to edit past present or future projects in the OP please let me know.

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Originally Posted by Davidson (Post 7755597)
Agreed. No matter where these companies are from, it's great to see Sask. Based companies investing in projects to create jobs within the province. And as a former Regina guy now living in Saskatoon, I'm loving seeing some of my fav. Regina watering holes like Leeopold's and Cathedral Social House setting up shop here in YXE.

Regina gets the gov't town label but there a nice class of YQR entrepreneurs also investing in Saskatoon. As you say, a win-win for both cities and the province

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Originally Posted by Stormer (Post 7755671)
I agree and was clearly joking. A little sibling rivalry is fine. I have lived in Saskatoon and have a business there. I will be there the next few weekends. Love it. I follow this thread hoping to see the latest great development for Saskatoon and Saskatchewan. :tup:

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Originally Posted by The Bess (Post 7756033)
I think most of us knew you were joking Stormer, lol

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Originally Posted by roryn1 (Post 7756803)
I bet Brandt sponsors the new arena downtown ;) will probably call it the Brandt Centre

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Originally Posted by mitchellk12 (Post 7757160)
wouldnt surprise me lol

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Originally Posted by gowest (Post 7758066)
Watching the live coverage of the bridge this morning. The two big backhoe operators are back again showing how to work together as a team. Worth looking at.

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Originally Posted by hunter12 (Post 7758088)
Here is a very interesting article regarding the challenges facing public transit.

http://www.newgeography.com/content/...blic-that-s-us

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Originally Posted by The Bess (Post 7758371)

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Originally Posted by Davidson (Post 7759234)
Interesting take on this topic. SaskTel Centre has done a remarkable job of sustain a 15,000 seat facility without the benefit of a major anchor tenant (I don't consider the Rush to be an anchor because they only play 9-10 home games per season). If there was a downtown arena in Saskatoon's future I could see potential for an AHL team to move here, though that would likely mean the Blades relocating elsewhere. I think the NHL is a pipe dream, at least as long as Bettman is commish. He's only interested in US markets.

On the other hand, Regina has the benefit currently of a deep-pocketed ownership group in QCPEG ( Semple's, et. al.) with motivation to upgrade or replace the Brandt Centre. I don't see a 15,000 seat arena being needed in Regina though. A modern 9,000-10,000 seater with luxury boxes & amenities would be suitable fir junior hockey, concerts and other events like the Brier.

Of course given current economics, I think the possibility of either city getting a new arena is many years away. But it's fun to speculate


Echoes Apr 4, 2017 3:50 AM

Thanks Cyro. I meant to put together a project compilation for the first post but have been too busy.

Cyro Apr 5, 2017 8:02 PM

^ Cool Echoes. If you ever have the time or feel like doing it just post it and I'll add it to the OP...

Brutopian Apr 7, 2017 6:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R9TiekxePo

Can you imagine all these Rush fans spilling out of Saskatoon's new downtown arena and heading to restaurants and pubs -- or going to restaurants and pubs before a Rush game? What an atmosphere it would create downtown.

(A guy can dream.)

prairieguy Apr 7, 2017 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutopian (Post 7765885)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R9TiekxePo

Can you imagine all these Rush fans spilling out of Saskatoon's new downtown arena and heading to restaurants and pubs -- or going to restaurants and pubs before a Rush game? What an atmosphere it would create downtown.

(A guy can dream.)

Absolutely right! Not a season ticket holder but will probably end up going to 5 games this year with the playoffs (going to 4th game this year tomorrow). There are 6 of us that all go together and we ALWAYS meet before the game for some food and beverages. Unfortunately, because of location of current arena we tend to head home after the game. I have no doubt we would also go for a beverage or 2 after the game if it was downtown given all the restaurant and pub options!

I too dream.....

SaskScraper Apr 9, 2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Davidson
Interesting take on this topic. SaskTel Centre has done a remarkable job of sustain a 15,000 seat facility without the benefit of a major anchor tenant (I don't consider the Rush to be an anchor because they only play 9-10 home games per season). If there was a downtown arena in Saskatoon's future I could see potential for an AHL team to move here, though that would likely mean the Blades relocating elsewhere. I think the NHL is a pipe dream, at least as long as Bettman is commish. He's only interested in US markets.

On the other hand, Regina has the benefit currently of a deep-pocketed ownership group in QCPEG ( Semple's, et. al.) with motivation to upgrade or replace the Brandt Centre. I don't see a 15,000 seat arena being needed in Regina though. A modern 9,000-10,000 seater with luxury boxes & amenities would be suitable fir junior hockey, concerts and other events like the Brier.

Of course given current economics, I think the possibility of either city getting a new arena is many years away. But it's fun to speculate
Would the Riders be considered anchor tenants for New Mosaic Stadium in Regina with only 10 games per season there? :shrug:

Current Brandt Centre if filled in with seats to capacity would be 8,000 seats, I'm not sure spending over $100 million on a new arena with only a thousand more seats than current arena has would make sense.

I don't see new arena's being built in Regina or Saskatoon in the next couple decades either but it also takes a decade or so from inception-to-completion for most facilities so i'm not surprised about talk about new arenas

blacktrojan3921 Apr 9, 2017 1:02 AM

Plus, I don't think the Blades would be relocated even if an AHL team were to move there. After all, Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver are doing pretty well at maintaining both their NHL and WHL teams.

watchedmofu Apr 9, 2017 3:13 AM

Brandt Centre only seats about 6500. They are doing a reno/expansion for the 2018 Memorial Cup. But that is only about 500 more seats

EpicPonyTime Apr 9, 2017 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921 (Post 7767075)
Plus, I don't think the Blades would be relocated even if an AHL team were to move there. After all, Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver are doing pretty well at maintaining both their NHL and WHL teams.

Those cities aren't really comparable to Saskatoon, though. A better comparison would be Winnipeg with the Jets and Moose, and even then the city is three times the size of ours.

Davidson Apr 11, 2017 4:40 AM

[QUOTE=SaskScraper;7767064]Would the Riders be considered anchor tenants for New Mosaic Stadium in Regina with only 10 games per season there? :shrug:

An apples to oranges comparison. Mosaic Stadium is an outdoor facility which doesn't require HVAC on a 24/7/365 basis like an indoor facility like SaskTel Centre or Brandt Centre requires.

Yes, the offices, team facilities, Rider store, etc. inside Mosaic obviously need heating & air conditioning, but not the entire facility itself. The field can be dormant six months/year. Not so with an arena. Its needs more event dates to help cover operating costs (like a hockey team that plays minimum 36-40 home games/year).

Also not saying the Rush aren't an important and valuable tenant at SaskTel Centre, just that 8-12 home dates/season by itself doesn't justify a multi-hundred million dollar downtown arena. That's all.

Davidson Apr 11, 2017 4:44 AM

Current Brandt Centre if filled in with seats to capacity would be 8,000 seats, I'm not sure spending over $100 million on a new arena with only a thousand more seats than current arena has would make sense.

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On that point, $278M was spent to build New Mosaic Stadium and it has the exact same seat count of 33,000 as the old Mosaic/Taylor Field. The priority is on amenities, fan experience and new revenue-generating opportunities like suites and luxury boxes.

Davidson Apr 11, 2017 4:45 AM

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Originally Posted by blacktrojan3921 (Post 7767075)
Plus, I don't think the Blades would be relocated even if an AHL team were to move there. After all, Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver are doing pretty well at maintaining both their NHL and WHL teams.

I would have to disagree. With the Rush drawing fans and with the size of the city, I don't think Saskatoon would be big enough to support the Blades, the Rush and an AHL team. Not enough population and corporate base to support that many teams.

Davidson Apr 11, 2017 4:49 AM

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Originally Posted by watchedmofu (Post 7767140)
Brandt Centre only seats about 6500. They are doing a reno/expansion for the 2018 Memorial Cup. But that is only about 500 more seats

Brandt Centre is just about the right size for a junior hockey market. Too much bigger and you lose some of the urgency around scarcity of tickets. I'm sure the Blades would tell you SaskTel Centre, outside of a Memorial Cup, is too large a venue for them. The Edmonton Eskimos have the same issue with Commonwealth Stadium, 60,000 seats is too big for today's CFL. It's why the Riders didn't build capacity above 33,000.

watchedmofu Apr 11, 2017 5:58 AM

Regina is missing out on alot of touring acts. I am behind the scene alot at Brandt Centre and the old barn is showing its age. The only way i can see a new barn being built is with private money. Other then that i dont think Regina will have a new facility.

roryn1 Apr 11, 2017 2:43 PM

This is a great read on what has revitalized American cities in the past 5 years - and boy have they revitalized, in Chicago alone 300,000 jobs moved downtown in the last 5 years, mainly thanks to corporations moving out of their small town offices. Things in the large centers usually happen 5-10 before centers like Saskatoon so maybe there's an opportunity for Saskatoon here. https://www.wsj.com/articles/chicago...sla=y&mod=e2fb

Bourgault I'm looking at you to come to Saskatoon.

prairieguy Apr 11, 2017 9:13 PM

I don't believe anyone was saying that the RUSH were 'anchor tenants' that justify a new arena downtown. They were simply used as one example of a stable draw of 15,000 over 10 games (150,000 people) plus playoffs, that could be injecting even more life into Saskatoon's downtown core if an arena existed there. Sasktel Centre ranks right up there as one of the busiest arena's in North America in terms of days booked per year for events. And certainly, continues to be THE facility in Saskatchewan for touring music acts (except for the large outdoor touring acts which will go to Mosaic).

It is just frustrating for those of us who go to RUSH games and major concerts here in Saskatoon at the inadequacy of the facility to handle large crowds and the total lack of additional entertainment options (i.e. restaurants, pubs, bars) in the vicinity.

It is not too early to talk of a new facility, given it will likely take 10 years. My god....look how long it is taking to get the 3,000 seat Uni arena built!!

SaskScraper Apr 11, 2017 9:22 PM

^^Ditto what PrairieGuy said

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Originally Posted by Davidson (Post 7769067)
...not saying the Rush aren't an important and valuable tenant at SaskTel Centre, just that 8-12 home dates/season by itself doesn't justify a multi-hundred million dollar downtown arena. That's all.

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Originally Posted by Davidson (Post 7769069)
On that point, $278M was spent to build New Mosaic Stadium and it has the exact same seat count of 33,000 as the old Mosaic/Taylor Field. The priority is on amenities, fan experience and new revenue-generating opportunities like suites and luxury boxes.

8-12/yr Rush games doesn't require spending $100 million on downtown arena

8-12/yr Rider games did require $278 M priority on amenities, fan experience and new revenue-generating opportunities like suites and luxury boxes

completely makes sense..
I don't care either way, just seems like shakey logic.

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Originally posted by Davidson
..With the Rush drawing fans and with the size of the city, I don't think Saskatoon would be big enough to support the Blades, the Rush and an AHL team. Not enough population and corporate base to support that many teams.
Swift Current has enough population to support Broncos'. If Saskatoon population ever can't support the Blades they should move to The Battlefords where they can have a better chance with its better population/corporate base for "..new revenue-generating opportunities like suites and luxury boxes" :cheers:

jigglysquishy Apr 11, 2017 9:37 PM

Aren't the Broncos the biggest money losers in the CHL?

WoodlandCritter Apr 12, 2017 2:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SaskScraper (Post 7769874)
If Saskatoon population ever can't support the Blades they should move to The Battlefords where they can have a better chance with its better population/corporate base for

What about Lloydminster, they are about double the size of the battlerfords are they not? probably have a better corporate base there too?


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