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KevinFromTexas May 2, 2019 2:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeSAView (Post 8559288)
There is an article in the Rivard Report today that this project was given the go ahead to begin construction.:cheers:

That's for the HDRC meeting. I believe the city council still has to approve it. Isn't that right?

Montirob May 2, 2019 3:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 8559292)
That's for the HDRC meeting. I believe the city council still has to approve it. Isn't that right?

I don't believe so. Once you get your Certificate of Appropriateness from the HDRC, you can apply for your building permit. Now, you can always APPEAL the HDRC decision, but (and fortunately I have never had to) I can't remember if it is to the Board of Adjustments, City Manager, or Council.

That said, the application was for CONCEPTUAL approval, not the final, so the team will still need to return to HDRC for another review.

sirkingwilliam May 2, 2019 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Montirob (Post 8559665)
I don't believe so. Once you get your Certificate of Appropriateness from the HDRC, you can apply for your building permit. Now, you can always APPEAL the HDRC decision, but (and fortunately I have never had to) I can't remember if it is to the Board of Adjustments, City Manager, or Council.

That said, the application was for CONCEPTUAL approval, not the final, so the team will still need to return to HDRC for another review.

City manager has final say, not council.

KevinFromTexas May 5, 2019 1:16 PM

So it's likely that we'll still see some building elevations then. That's good news. That first document seemed a little preliminary by only showing some renderings and giving a general overview of it, but fewer details on the technical side of it.

Txdev May 5, 2019 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 8562780)
So it's likely that we'll still see some building elevations then. That's good news. That first document seemed a little preliminary by only showing some renderings and giving a general overview of it, but fewer details on the technical side of it.

Yes, on a project like this they will typically request conceptual design approval before spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on more detailed structural and MEP plans.

Final HDRC approval will require full plans sufficient for a building permit.

SAguy Nov 28, 2019 9:20 PM

SA Express News- 11/27/19

Jefferson Bank’s new headquarters

Jefferson Bank is planning to build a 12-story tower downtown to house its headquarters. Executives bought 1.7 acres at Broadway and East Grayson last year, kitty-corner to the Credit Human complex.

The land has already been cleared and the bank plans to break ground in the first half of 2020, spokeswoman Lindsay Armstrong said.

Jefferson Bank will continue using its current headquarters on the North Side as a banking center, but executives and lenders will start moving downtown in April 2022, she said.

AwesomeSAView Dec 4, 2019 1:39 AM

There is an article on the SA Heron website: www.saheron.com about the Jefferson Headquarters building. Article states building maybe as tall as 15 stories. :yes::tup::cheers:

jaga185 Dec 4, 2019 3:27 AM

That means it could become over 200ft. Woot!

Txdev Dec 12, 2019 6:52 PM

I don’t think it’s getting taller, but we should see new renderings this week showing full block.



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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 8766129)
That means it could become over 200ft. Woot!


jaga185 Dec 14, 2019 8:50 PM

The PDF from the meeting this coming Wednesday states it will be 175ft. It says 275... but this document starts at 100ft as well. Not sure why.

Also, looks like "Still Golden" will have to move. Again.

Keep-SA-Lame Dec 14, 2019 9:24 PM

That's really too bad, the neighborhood is more interesting with it there. Oh well I guess.

Love that they've apparently turned the Valero into a vibrant and beautiful pedestrian plaza... these dishonest architectural renderings are really out of control sometimes, it's become pet peeve of mine.

KevinFromTexas Dec 14, 2019 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 8776146)
The PDF from the meeting this coming Wednesday states it will be 175ft. It says 275... but this document starts at 100ft as well. Not sure why.

Also, looks like "Still Golden" will have to move. Again.

The actual height is a little taller than that. If you look on page 53 of the PDF for the Grayson Street elevation, the building drops down another 3 feet 1 inch below the 100 foot baseline number. So, you have to subtract the 3 feet 1 inch from 100 feet, which gives you 96 feet 11 inches. That is the number you subtract from the 275 feet 3 inches, giving you a height of 178 feet 4 inches. It also looks like it'll have 13 floors including the terrace level.

Montirob Dec 15, 2019 4:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jaga185 (Post 8776146)
The PDF from the meeting this coming Wednesday states it will be 175ft. It says 275... but this document starts at 100ft as well. Not sure why.

Also, looks like "Still Golden" will have to move. Again.

100 ft is a common baseline for elevations if you aren't using the actual sea-level elevation (664'-9").

jaga185 Dec 15, 2019 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Montirob (Post 8776423)
100 ft is a common baseline for elevations if you aren't using the actual sea-level elevation (664'-9").

Thanks for clarifying that for me!

Glad someone updated this headline for us. :cheers:

Spoiler Dec 15, 2019 7:00 PM

The roof is my favorite part, not really a fan of the lower level much but I guess it will be okay

https://i.imgur.com/TMc73hZ.jpg

By the way, regarding Still Golden, I've seen some social media posts by Jaret Pena indicating that he wasn't a big fan of the building his bar was in and also made some hints that he expects to reopen in a space in the new building when it's built.

UltraDanPrime Dec 15, 2019 11:34 PM

I see new meets old in this. The stone grand entrance & arches along with the glass tower. Really cool. Something The SATX should strive for.... new meets old.

Spoiler Dec 16, 2019 12:54 AM

I would say that new meets old has been a defining aesthetic of San Antonio for over a hundred years. Another defining aesthetic, since the mid-80s at least, has been "Hill Country Tuscan", which is fine because the rough limestone complements the rustic style. But this is something closer to "Hill Country Romanesque" which I think looks inauthentic and cheesy, at least in the renderings. But I bet the finished product will look better and function well, so no big deal.

UltraDanPrime Dec 16, 2019 6:20 PM

I would say that SA has been beige meets old, which some of that isnt bad, but I'm talking glass, modern, Frost like meets old! That's what I'd like to see, & I have a feeling I'm not the only one.

JACKinBeantown Dec 17, 2019 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 8776729)
The roof is my favorite part...

Designed to match Human Credit, the name which conjures up all sorts of 1960s/70s dystopian sci-fis.

Video Link

Spoiler Dec 17, 2019 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown (Post 8778168)
Designed to match Human Credit, the name which conjures up all sorts of 1960s/70s dystopian sci-fis.

Not to harsh your dystopia, but the name of the place is Credit Human. That may be worse though. :borg::raygun:


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