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Clarkkent2420

Oct 26, 2016 9:55 PM

Kngkyle

Oct 26, 2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarkkent2420 (Post 7604591)

Is a static sculpture is more impressive than what's planned? At 3,000 square feet, cost is probably close to $4-5million.

I believe they are referring to a sculpture for the public park space outside of the building.

rlw777

Oct 26, 2016 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kngkyle (Post 7604599)

I believe they are referring to a sculpture for the public park space outside of the building.

Yeah I don't consider it public art if it's in the lobby

Clarkkent2420

Oct 27, 2016 2:56 AM

Mr Downtown

Oct 27, 2016 3:43 PM

^Difference might be whether the indoor space is a public "winter garden" that's required to be open to the public, or a typical office building lobby where the security guards see it as their sworn duty to prevent any rubbernecking or—horrors!—photography.

Henry Moore's Large Interior Form at Three First National Plaza comes immediately to mind. At least Louise Nevelson's Dawn Shadows at Madison Plaza is still visible from the public sidewalk.

KWILLSKYLINE

Oct 27, 2016 3:52 PM

The Winged Victory of Samothrace --- Citadel Center

LouisVanDerWright

Oct 27, 2016 4:08 PM

Also I just don't consider a giant wall of LED displays to be art. It's not permenant, it's technology and will be out of date in less than a decade. So while the concept and the content is awesome, I just see it as a way to display art and not art itself. A statue or mobile (like the sick Calder in the Sears) is far more permenant. I don't dislike the LED concept, but it's bound to break down or be replaced over time.

Then again this building is sculptural enough on it's own that I don't mind all that much! Maybe they could commission something that plays off the structural theme in the same way as Calatrava's little plaza art did in the spire design? Maybe balance a huge cone of rock on it's point or something cool like that?

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7605149)

At least Louise Nevelson's Dawn Shadows at Madison Plaza is still visible from the public sidewalk.

What happened with this one anyhow? Was the art there first and then they built the building around it or did the art go up with the building and the lobby was a later addition?

pilsenarch

Oct 27, 2016 4:38 PM

the latter... lobby expansion was an addition...

aaron38

Oct 27, 2016 5:01 PM

I hadn't realized the lobby was "sunken" like that, that the windows didn't meet the floor on the west.

Clarkkent2420

Oct 27, 2016 5:20 PM

Ned.B

Oct 27, 2016 5:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aaron38 (Post 7605248)

I hadn't realized the lobby was "sunken" like that, that the windows didn't meet the floor on the west.

The lobby is more or less level with the sidewalk on Randolph, maybe a foot or two higher, but the park to the west rises up and over the ground level parking deck. So it's not so much that the lobby is sunken, bu that the park is one floor above grade at the north end of the site.

LouisVanDerWright

Oct 27, 2016 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarkkent2420 (Post 7605265)

I don't disagree - opportunity for "Vegas-level hokiness" is high. But every major modern art museum in the world has a digital media exhibition space, and you only have to look at guys like Villarreal (dude who did bay bridge installation) to know that this is a "legitimate" subset of the fine art space. It is encouraging to read the snippet that says that they are liaising with "Chicago Cultural institutions", which I infer as being museums...suggests that the aspiration is "gallery space" and not "weather channel".

To be clear, I'm not worried about it being tacky, I just think that LED screens do not, by themselves, constitute "public art" or art at all. The content displayed will be great I'm sure, but it's just that, displayed artistic content, inherently transient. A scuplture or painting or mobile on the otherhand is a concrete and permenent work of art that doesn't simply disappear when the power is turned off or a circuit on a computer board fails.

Near North Resident

Oct 27, 2016 7:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 7605149)

Henry Moore's Large Interior Form at Three First National Plaza comes immediately to mind. At least Louise Nevelson's Dawn Shadows at Madison Plaza is still visible from the public sidewalk.

you won't be able to see either as Moore's LIF is gone as of a few months ago

based upon the 'lipstick on a pig' renovation they are doing to the building, I can't imagine the ugly POS that is going to replace it

SolarWind

Oct 31, 2016 4:36 AM

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