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METALMiKE Oct 23, 2007 9:45 PM

New student housing planned at UTSA
 
The University of Texas at San Antonio (UTSA) will get a new $28 million student housing development near the school to serve the growing campus.

The new development is called Hill Country Place and it will feature 1, 2 and 4-bedroom units specially designed for college students. Each unit has its own private bath.

The complex will also have a clubhouse, gaming center, activity room, fitness center, tanning bed, basketball court, sand volleyball court, a swimming pool, grilling stations and carports. Hill Country Place also will be gated.

Hill Country place should be ready in time for a July 2008 opening, according to The Place/BV Student Housing LLC, a real estate investment fund specializing in the development of student housing.

The Place/BV Student Housing is a joint venture between Atlanta-based Place Properties LP and Blue Vista Capital Management LLC in Chicago. The company is investing in the UTSA project, which is the venture's third in Texas.

http://sanantonio.bizjournals.com/sa...ml?jst=b_ln_hl

sirkingwilliam Oct 24, 2007 5:22 AM

Looks like it'll be east of the campus.

http://www.hillcountryplace.info/images/MAP.jpg

BSofA04 Oct 24, 2007 8:01 AM

So much for the "commuter" campus image.

JACKinBeantown Oct 24, 2007 2:22 PM

Good... less traffic.

21bl0wed Oct 24, 2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JACKinNYC (Post 3123703)
Good... less traffic.

Probably not. All the people who cause the traffic are locals...the ones who are from out of town stay around utsa...no point in livin in a dorm if you already live in the same city...but i know some will argue that. :rolleyes:

JACKinBeantown Oct 25, 2007 10:11 PM

Not an argument, just a fact... there will be lots of kids who won't want to live with mom and dad anymore and may move into the dorms.

TXlifeguard Oct 26, 2007 10:00 AM

These aren't dorms, and are in no way affiliated with the university. The reporter was either rushed, sloppy, misinformed, or purposely misleading readers. I don't care to speculate as to the reasons why.

The headline and tone of the article seem to indicate a relationship between the property and the university, which is not the case. These are inexpensively built apartments geared towards students with individual lease liability. The site is about a mile from campus proper, past Valereo, on land owned by the Santikos family. Will it be primarily for UTSA students? Sure, cause I cant imagine a family of three moving in there; most of the complexes close to campus are pretty rowdy sometimes. But to also refer to it as a 'UTSA project' as in the last paragraph could lead some readers to assume that this was done in partnership with the university itself, or would take students as part of the regular university housing stock, which it wont.

UTSA has actually moved away from housing partnerships, and back into direct ownership and management of housing complexes on campus. The University Oaks Apartments is built and managed by the former Century Housing, now known as CLV on land leased to the company until 2017. They also are the managers of the Chisholm Hall dorm complex. Together, these two complexes make up about 60% of the beds on campus. University Oaks was built with some substantial design flaws, and CLV lost most of what trust they had with the university in 2002 when toxic mold was found in the dorm complex. CLV knew about it and acted slowly to fix the situation, putting the students in danger and the university at risk. Most of the then residents lost a majority of their possessions and it was a PR embarrassment for the university. Shortly thereafter UTSA went back into the housing business for the first time in a decade with new construction. It's pretty apparent that there is no love lost on CLV from the university's standpoint; the master plan for the university shows the student apartments being bulldozed at the first available date per the contract and replaced with other housing, and; a careful reading of the university housing website pretty much tells potential students how to avoid getting placed into a CLV property when applying for student housing.

Yeah, way more than anyone cares to know about housing at UTSA, but even the title of this thread is misleading; it should read 'New student housing planned near UTSA.' Yeah, there is a need for more housing immediate to campus, but I'm not impressed with this property (from the pictures of similar properties in the state). If this was a UTSA development, it would actually look better.

JACKinBeantown Oct 26, 2007 2:29 PM

Anyone have recent photos of the UTSA campus?

21bl0wed Oct 26, 2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JACKinNYC (Post 3126918)
Not an argument, just a fact... there will be lots of kids who won't want to live with mom and dad anymore and may move into the dorms.

And you really think UTSA prioritizes locals when it comes to dorm living? They are last on the list to get a pick at dorms. And with the way the numbers are theres no way any locals are going to get into any dorms unless they make thousands more.

So still same traffic situation.

alexjon Oct 26, 2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TXlifeguard (Post 3127926)
and CLV lost most of what trust they had with the university in 2002 when toxic mold was found in the dorm complex. CLV knew about it and acted slowly to fix the situation, putting the students in danger and the university at risk. Most of the then residents lost a majority of their possessions and it was a PR embarrassment for the university.

That's a lie.

The trust was lost as a result of the company acting properly; while the testing of the rooms was done at cost (with inconclusive results), the fact that they did nothing to mitigate paranoia amongst students and parents forced the campus' hand in having to put all the students up in a hotel because the company did not have a plan B.

And for the record, I got every single item I owned back, as did the majority of my friends.


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