SAN ANTONIO │ Urban Core Development Rundown
Decided to do away with the development scorecard and instead make a urban core development map that shows all the urban core developments either under construction or proposed. UNDER CONSTRUCTION RESIDENTIAL UNITS: 2,063 │ HOTEL ROOMS: 295
PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL UNITS: 4,313
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I was looking at the scorecard which has a line about Pearl development proposing 800 units (separate from the Cellars). I don't recall seeing anything. Is that an actual proposal or just something mentioned with regards to the properties they own off Broadway and on the river?
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I've opened the thread to allow for scoreboard related discussion.
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Thank god for the CCDO pushing most of these projects, would hate to see where we would be at development wise if that department was never created.
anyway, i'd like a link to the CPS highrise proposal, any renderings out yet? Or are we just assuming stuff? Edit: just saw CPS thread. "doesn't have to be something grand" yet wants to establish a presence in the skyline..hmm in SA a 10 story tower can do that. Hopefully it'll be something more substantial. |
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The CPS move is listed as proposed, but that's not really the case. They have put the idea out there for a private developer to add new office space to downtown, and they would be willing to lease. I understand them wanting to move into new modern offices. However, I would not be surprised to see them move into upgraded offices in the old at&t campus on the river. It's hard to imagine someone else moving into those spaces anytime soon. USAA had the chance, instead they chose some old strip space out in the burbs (way to commit to the city:???:)
If this is a catch all for development, then the Federal Courthouse is also missing. |
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The reality of a new office building being ready for move-in is likely 3 years away. That would mean nothing can be done with the CPS building for 3 years. Wouldn't you expect something has to happen sooner for the parties involved in that proposed sale? I don't know, I think anything can happen at this point.:shrug:
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The CEO wants something new that will improve the skyline. :cheers: |
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Anything going on at Florida and S Presa? I thought I heard about some apartments going up there. The reason I ask is because the building that is currently there is in the process of being demolished.
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Thanks for creating/updating this map sirkingwilliam. Great idea and it's great for the big picture of all the projects going on in San Antonio. Makes things way easier to track from the other side of the Country.
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Just curious. Is there any way to update the map (link) to indicate what is complete, under construction, proposed, etc.?
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JOSKE'S MIXED-USE │ MIXED USE TOWER OR TOWERS WITH RESIDENTIAL AND HOTEL │ DOWNTOWN
Is this still in the works? I have to believe, based upon history, that if there is even a hint of a shadow falling on the Alamo at 5 P.M. in December from these buildings, then it is a no go. |
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I have a question that popped into my head thinking about how downtown's changed in the last ten years and the new announcement at Hemisfair -
What changed from the last boom to this one that led to more interest in low rises along the fringe? During the last building cycle, we got 3 tall downtown residential options - Vistana, Vidorra, and Alteza. And one tower farther out - The Broadway. This time it's all been lower height options in Southtown and around Pearl. I understand the condo finance rules changed, but Vistana has been full since it opened. Yet no new mid-rise apartments 'til Hemisfair. Did construction costs go up? were those anamolies? ... Ideas? |
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2. It's much easier to finance apartments. 3. There's a proven market for apartments in Downtown, River North, Southtown in this exact form (Want to develop a property? Do what everyone else has done. Banks will easily finance that.) 4. The market isn't available for high rise condo living in San Antonio. |
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1. Stick frame has always been cheaper, but we still have these three steel frame projects. It's four again if you add the Cascada project, but that's from a few years earlier. And condo. 2. Completely right! 3. There's a proven market now, but there wasn't one back in '06 when these projects were starting. Nobody lived downtown, fewer employers, there was no Pearl, no river extensions, no main plaza, and no cycling culture. They still got built. Why? 4. If there isn't a market now, I'd imagine less of one in '06/'07. If the apartment rents still don't justify taller buildings today, I'd imagine the pro forma on a condo tower wouldn't balance either. Did it back then? Or were these projects just part of the housing bubble and never based on substantial demand? |
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That's an excellent point! I don't know if the City had a well-defined infill policy back then, but the current one is unit-based. Do you think that policy change was a primary driver? |
with all of the infill projects wrapping up and breaking ground, and with the new high rise proposals, I think it's time for a new map to properly visualize things!!!
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Here's a recap of the tallest buildings recently proposed for downtown.
FROST HEADQUARTERS │ OFFICE │ 400 FEET http://i.imgur.com/6WSQR4A.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/JQDLXDf.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/IkEUr8m.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/zRf3dLC.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/KWxHj4X.jpg?1 THOMPSON HOTEL AND RESIDENCES │ MIXED-USE │ 273 FEET http://i.imgur.com/l0yqwPu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wvJdskr.jpg CANOPY HOTEL │ HOTEL │ 247 FEET http://i.imgur.com/unAkCpp.jpg?1 JMJ TOWER RIVERWALK │ RESIDENTIAL │ 30 STORIES http://i.imgur.com/SJQKSaX.jpg This is only a massing rendering. It is not a final design. MAP http://i.imgur.com/XwPI0V5.png?1 |
AWESOME! They all NEED to get built!!:cheers:
Anything on the Cambria Hotel on Main St.?:yes: |
UPDATED recap of the tallest buildings proposed for downtown San Antonio.
FROST HEADQUARTERS │ OFFICE │ 400 FEET http://i.imgur.com/6WSQR4A.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/JQDLXDf.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/IkEUr8m.jpg?2 http://i.imgur.com/zRf3dLC.jpg?1 http://i.imgur.com/KWxHj4X.jpg?1 THOMPSON HOTEL AND RESIDENCES │ MIXED-USE │ 273 FEET http://i.imgur.com/l0yqwPu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wvJdskr.jpg CANOPY HOTEL │ HOTEL │ 247 FEET http://i.imgur.com/unAkCpp.jpg?1 CAMBRIA HOTEL AND OFFICE │ MIXED-USE │ 225 FT http://i.imgur.com/pLxAMhO.jpg http://i.imgur.com/10KgmmV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/c7Yqnzy.jpg JMJ TOWER RIVERWALK │ RESIDENTIAL │ 30 STORIES http://i.imgur.com/SJQKSaX.jpg This is only a massing rendering. It is not a final design. MAP http://i.imgur.com/4EcfCo6.png |
FAA permit for the Sunset Building. It lists the height as 61 feet. It's an office building. The location is at the southeast corner of East Sunset Road & US 281.
Are there any renderings of this one? Is there a thread for it? I couldn't find it. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...8099714&row=18 The crane permit lists the crane as 160 feet. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...58099719&row=1 |
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The sign that's on Google Maps has a rendering on it for a two (3?) story medical office building. The sign's been there for years though, so idk if that represents what's actually going to get built. |
I figured I'd post this here because it's really where I should have asked the question in the first place.
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Lisa Wong (owner of Rosarios) and now owner of the El Mirador property has indicated that she wants to demo the building for her new "Rosarios." I'll state it here...El Mirador > Rosarios. Their food was always on point and drinks were good. Rosarios is just another typical SA tex-mex joint. It's not bad but I'm not driving downtown to go there. I made trips to El Mirador.
https://saheron.com/el-mirador-demol...uest-rosarios/ |
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Maybe she will propose to repurpose the new into the old? I mean the current location's layout is a mess as it is. I really don't think anything she will do differently will be bad.
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The back part of the old main part of the restaurant is very old, apart from any sentimental attachment I have for the busienss. The part closest to the street is a modern addition, but the back part which used to be an old house has original limestone walls from who knows when, I'd bet the 1870s or 1880s at least. She'd be crazy to waste all that charm she paid for and HDRC would be crazy to allow her to do it. |
i don't see them allowing her to do it but if she has connections at the city, i bet she can put some pressure on them.
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What happened to the thread for the 393-foot building on Soledad? :???:
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Well now we know what Rosario's is planning on doing.
https://saheron.com/wp-content/uploa...1-1024x420.jpg https://saheron.com/rosarios-new-loc...5WEYiedv1Bg9Xo |
Welp, I stand corrected. Looks like this will be greenlit with the whole 35% thing. I do like the design and am a big fan of the rooftop terrace.
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Low tide in the SA forum.
https://jefflynchdev.files.wordpress..._tide_blog.jpg https://jefflynchdev.wordpress.com/2012/07/14/low-tide/ |
haha, so true. It's definitely been a ghost town for months now.
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Well I feel that its picking up again now
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To be fair, SA has always been slow in regards to development news compared to the other Texas cities. Maybe that is changing due to the recent quality of proposals we’ve seen.
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