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hunser Oct 2, 2011 7:51 PM

New York Supertalls
 
Last update: 05-31-2017

List of all 656ft+ / 200m+ skyscrapers in
New York City and Jersey City

(does not include visions, canceled, never-built, limbo and unsourced projects)


Areals featuring New York's 5 skyline clusters: Midtown, Downtown, Long Island City, Downtown Brooklyn and Jersey City.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8555/3...ae1300d9_b.jpg
UA 561 LGA-DEN 7:30am by takekaplan, on Flickr

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UA 561 LGA-DEN 7:30am by takekaplan, on Flickr

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Hudson Yards / Manhattan West project map, created by Vertical Gotham: http://i.imgur.com/FVrYwpy.jpg

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Useful NYC Metro Compilation Threads:

1) Chris' High Rise Compilation thread.
2) Chris' Mid/Low Rise Compilation thread.
3) Chris' Global Supertalls thread.

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New York City


Completed / Topped out*

1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1,776ft (541m) [roof 1,368ft / 417m]
2. 432 Park Avenue, 1,397ft (426m)
3. Empire State Building, 1,250ft (381m) [antenna 1,454ft / 443m]
4. Bank of America Tower, 1,200ft (366m) [roof 945ft / 288m]
5. Three World Trade Center, 1,080ft (329m)*
6. Chrysler Building, 1,046ft (319m) [roof 925ft / 282m]
7. New York Times Tower, 1,046ft (319m) [roof 745ft / 227m]
8. One57, 1,005ft (306m)


900 footers:

9. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (298m)
10. 220 Central Park South, 952ft (290m) *
11. 70 Pine Street, 952ft (290m) [roof 848ft / 258m]
12. 30 Park Place, 937ft (286m)
13. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (283m) [roof 900ft / 274m]
14. Citigroup Center, 915ft (279m)


800 footers:

15. 10 Hudson Yards, 895ft (273m)
16. 8 Spruce Street, 876ft (267m)
17. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262m)
18. Comcast Building, 850ft (259m)
19. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250m)
20. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248m)
21. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (248m)
22. Conde Nast Building, 809ft (247m) [antenna 1118ft / 341m]
23. Met Life Building, 808ft (246m)
24. Bloomberg Tower, 807ft (246m) [antenna 941ft / 287m]


700 footers:

25. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m)
26. 50 West Street, 783ft (239m)
27. 520 Park Avenue, 781ft (238m) *
28. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m)
29. 45 East 22nd Street, 777ft (237m) *
30. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m)
31. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m)
32. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m)
33. AXA Center, 752ft (229m)
34. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m)
35. 1251 Avenue of the Americas, 750ft (229m)
36. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m)
37. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m)
38. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m)
39. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m)
40. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m)
41. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m)
42. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m)
43. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m)
44. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m)
45. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m)
46. Three Manhattan West, 731ft (223m) *
47. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m)
48. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m)
49. 252 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m)
50. 100 East 53rd Street, 712ft (217m) *
51. 500 Fifth Avenue, 709ft (216m)
52. JPMorganChase World HQ, 707ft (216m)
53. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m)
54. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m)


600 footers:

55. Americas Tower, 692ft (211m)
56. Solow Building, 689ft (210m)
57. HSBC Bank Building, 688ft (210m)
58. 5 Beekman Street, 687ft (209m)
59. 55 Water Street, 687ft (209m)
60. 277 Park Avenue, 687ft (209m)
61. 1585 Broadway, 685ft (209m)
62. Random House Tower, 684ft (208m)
63. Four Seasons Hotel, 682ft (208m)
64. Sky, 676ft (206m)
65. 1221 Avenue of the Americas, 674ft (205m)
66. Lincoln Building, 673ft (205m)
67. One Court Square, 673ft (205m)
68. Barclay Tower, 673ft (205m)
69. Paramount Plaza, 670ft (204m)
70. 440 West 42nd Street, 669ft (204m)
71. Trump Tower, 664ft (202m)
72. Silver Towers South, 656ft (200m)
73. Silver Towers North, 656ft (200m)



Under construction

1,000 footers:

1. Central Park Tower, 1,550ft (472m)
2. 111 West 57th Street, 1,428ft (435m)
3. One Vanderbilt Place, 1,401ft (427m) [roof 1,288ft / 393m]
4. 30 Hudson Yards, 1,296ft (395m)
5. 9 DeKalb Avenue, 1,066ft (325m)
6. Tower Verre, 1,050ft (320m)
7. The Girasole, 1,050ft (320m)
8. 35 Hudson Yards, 1,039ft (317m)


900 footers:

9. One Manhattan West, 995ft (303m)
10. 15 Hudson Yards, 912ft (278m)


800 footers:

11. 125 Greenwich Street, 898ft (274m)
12. 425 Park Avenue, 893ft (272m)
13. One Manhattan Square, 831ft (253m)
14. 138 East 50th Street, 803ft (245m)


700 footers:

15. 111 Murray Street, 792ft (241m)
16. 55 Hudson Yards, 780ft (238m)
17. 118 Fulton Street, 758ft (231m)
18. 15 East 30th Street, 756ft (231m)
19. 281 5th Avenue, 728ft (222m)
20. Citypoint Tower 1, 721ft (220m)
21. 23 Park Row, 701ft (214m)

600 footers:

22. 242 West 52nd Street, 676ft (206m)
23. One Seaport, 670ft (204m)
24. 45 Park Place, 667ft (203m)



On hold

1,000 footers:

1. Two World Trade Center, 1,323ft (403m) [height change likely]


Site preparation* / Approved / Proposed

1,000 footers:

1. 80 South Street, 1,438ft (438m)
2. 666 5th Avenue, 1,400ft (427m)
3. Shvo Central Park Tower, 1,320ft+ (400m+)
4. 335 Madison Avenue, 1,320ft+ (400m+)
5. 151 East 60th Street, 1,240ft (378m)
6. 15 Penn Plaza, 1,216ft (371m) [Stale Proposal]
7. Two Manhattan West, 1,216ft (371m) *
8. 1 Park Lane, 1,210ft (369m)
9. 41 West 57th Street, 1,200ft+ (366m+)
10. 45 Broad Street, 1,127ft (344m) *[height change likely]
11. Hudson Yards Phase II Supertall, 1,100ft+ (335m+)
12. 520 West 41st Street, 1,100ft (335m) *
13. 262 5th Avenue, 1,050ft (320m)
14. 247 Cherry Street, 1,008ft (307m)
15. The Spiral, 1,005ft (306m)
16. 386 Flatbush Avenue, 1,000ft (305m)
17. 360 10th Avenue 1,000ft+ (305m+)
18. 237 Park Avenue, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
19. 341 Madison Avenue, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
20. 31 West 57th Street, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
21. Cetra Ruddy UES Tower, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
22. 1710 Broadway, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
23. 740 8th Avenue, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
24. 144 West 34th Street, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
25. 562-570 5th Ave, 1,000ft+ (305m+)
26. 989-993 6th Ave, 1,000ft+ (305m+)



900 footers:

27. 50 Hudson Yards, 985ft (300m) *
28. Court Square City View Tower, 984ft (300m)
29. SNCI NYC Tower, 950ft (290m)
30. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (286m) [Stale Proposal]
31. 520 5th Avenue, 920ft (280m) *
32. 80 Flatbush Avenue Tower II, 920ft (280m)
33. 29 - 37 41st Avenue, 915ft (279m)
34. 3 West 29th Street, 900ft+ (274m+)


800 footers:

35. 92 Fulton Street, 886ft (270m)
36. 20 Times Square, 856ft (261m) [Stale Proposal]
37. 130 William Street, 800ft (244m)*
38. 650 Madison Avenue, 800ft+ (244m+)


700 footers:

39. 260 South Street Tower I, 798ft (243m)
40. 8 West 30th Street, 796ft (243m)*
41. 321 East 96th Street, 760ft (232m)
42. 360 10th Avenue, 756ft (231m)
43. 55 Broad Street, 741ft (226m)
44. 260 South Street Tower II, 728ft (222m)
45. 43-30 24th Street, 725ft (221m)
46. 271 South Street, 724ft (221)
47. Hudson Rise, 720ft (219m) *
48. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m)
49. 309 11th Avenue, 701ft (214m)
50. Sutton Place Tower, 700ft (213m) *
51. 12 East 37th Street, 700ft+ (213m+)
52. Five World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+) [Stale Proposal]
53. 451 10th Avenue, 700ft+ (213m+)
54. 6 Columbus Circle, 700ft+ (213m+)


600 footers:


55. 200 Amsterdam Avenue, 666ft (203m)
56. 111 Washington Street, 656ft+ (200m+) *
57. Public New York, 656ft+ (200m+)
58. 31 West 57th Street, 656ft+ (200m+)


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Right now NYC has about 280 buildings exceeding 500ft / 152m!


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Jersey City



1. 55 Hudson Street, 1,000ft+ (305m+) - Proposed
2. Liberty Rising, 1,000ft+ (305m+) - Proposed
3. 99 Hudson Street, 900ft (274m) - Under construction
4. One Journal Square (City Center Towers) II, 800ft+ (244m+) - Approved
5. 30 Hudson Street, 781ft (238m) - Completed
6. Journal Squared Tower III, 742ft (226m) - Approved
7. Urban Ready Living I, 713ft (217m) - Topped out
8. Urban Ready Living II, 713ft (217m) - Approved
9. Urban Ready Living III, 713ft (217m) - Approved
10. One Journal Square (City Center Towers) I, 701ft (214m) - Approved
11. San Remo, 700ft+ (213m+) - Proposed


Last update: 05-31-2017

manchester united Oct 7, 2011 10:49 PM

In 5 years NYC skyline will be absolutely incredible !!!!

Rico Rommheim Oct 8, 2011 1:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchester united (Post 5437270)
In 5 years NYC skyline will be absolutely incredible !!!!

I think it already is.

marshall Oct 8, 2011 1:49 PM

Thanks for starting this thread and the great pics!

Amanita Oct 8, 2011 9:13 PM

Dayumn! Let's hope these approved proposals actually get built!

marshall Oct 9, 2011 3:12 AM

I like the Drake Hotel design a lot, looks like a simple tube-like tower. Cool to see NYC possibly get a non-office supertall on par with certain Far-East towers that are all residential!

scalziand Oct 15, 2011 3:27 AM

I wouldn't exactly say that 225 w57 is approved because no plans have been submitted to be approved. Not to say that approval should be a big deal since it will be an as of right tower.

hunser Oct 15, 2011 2:02 PM

^^ you're right, as far as I know there haven't been any DOB filings... I'll change it to proposed.

possible new render for the Manhattan West Towers:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/138661509/large.jpg

note that the final height remains uncertain.

other news: 3WTC is now 1080' tall, making it the 3rd tallest in New York (after ESB and BofA).

stormkingfan Oct 15, 2011 5:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5430821)

This was posted a couple years ago. Is this one still going to be built? If so, it'll probably steal the spotlight from the Empire State Bldg., but at least the ESB would have a friend.

imo, if a major building goes up that close to it, it should be just short of the 86th floor(ESB) so that, at least, the mooring mast & antenna are still that vicinity's highest point. The ESB should continue to dominate its neighborhood.

stormkingfan Oct 15, 2011 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 5438329)
I like the Drake Hotel design a lot, looks like a simple tube-like tower. Cool to see NYC possibly get a non-office supertall on par with certain Far-East towers that are all residential!

Its height and location remind me of the the long elevator ride Tom Cruise took at the end of Vanilla Sky (that tower was obviously CGed).

Personally, I think that if they build a square tower that tall, it should have a much larger foot print and floor area. Trump World Tower, by the UN, has a larger foot print and it's still a bit on the extreme side. And TWT is still well over 400' shy of this Drake.

hunser Oct 16, 2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormkingfan (Post 5445618)
This was posted a couple years ago. Is this one still going to be built? If so, it'll probably steal the spotlight from the Empire State Bldg., but at least the ESB would have a friend.

imo, if a major building goes up that close to it, it should be just short of the 86th floor(ESB) so that, at least, the mooring mast & antenna are still that vicinity's highest point. The ESB should continue to dominate its neighborhood.

Yes, it's going to be built as soon as a major tenant is found. 15 Penn is already approved, it's probably only a matter of time until we here some news about a tenant.

No, the ESB had it's time. NY needs to move forward; new (supertall) towers will rise near the ESB, whether we like it or not.

Zapatan Oct 17, 2011 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5446153)
Yes, it's going to be built as soon as a major tenant is found. 15 Penn is already approved, it's probably only a matter of time until we here some news about a tenant.

No, the ESB had it's time. NY needs to move forward; new (supertall) towers will rise near the ESB, whether we like it or not.


Agreed!

The ESB is great and all but it shouldn't stop taller buildings from rising. We don't want it to be another Philadelphia city hall...

MolsonExport Oct 17, 2011 3:37 PM

ESB will always be the king skyscraper and the Chrysler the most beautiful (in my opinion).

hunser Oct 19, 2011 9:40 AM

New render of 440 Park (the correct adress is actually 432 Park Avenue):

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/138975123/original.jpg
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj

MolsonExport Oct 19, 2011 1:32 PM

^I am amazed that this was approved, given proximity to central park and the trials experienced by the Tour Verre (The latter is in my view, either the coolest rendering in history or quite simply the best looking skyscraper of the past 50 years [along with Bank of China in HK)

hunser Oct 21, 2011 8:52 PM

^^ Yeah, Tower Verre certainly is a marvel. Shame it had a height reduction whereas this monster will likely be 400m tall. Seems to me there's no such thing as justice in the skyscraper world. :|

I quote myself:
Quote:

It's a real pity, Tower Verre should have been 400m and this dull box 320m! But no, the best design in like 40 years gets a height reduction...

rfiertek Oct 22, 2011 2:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormkingfan (Post 5445618)
This was posted a couple years ago. Is this one still going to be built? If so, it'll probably steal the spotlight from the Empire State Bldg., but at least the ESB would have a friend.

imo, if a major building goes up that close to it, it should be just short of the 86th floor(ESB) so that, at least, the mooring mast & antenna are still that vicinity's highest point. The ESB should continue to dominate its neighborhood.

Is that building the box the Empire State Building came in?

hunser Nov 2, 2011 6:54 PM

New renders for the Hudson Yards!

Shorter tower ~ 996ft, construction to begin 3rd quarter 2012
Taller tower: ~ 1278ft, construction to begin 4th quarter 2012

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139343751/original.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/...d4eb3252_b.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139327901/original.jpg

Danielson27 Nov 4, 2011 2:59 PM

It's great to see that we are finally getting a tower taller than ESB other than the WTC!!:banana::banana:

Roadcruiser1 Nov 9, 2011 3:55 AM

Yeah I am, and if the design is right, and if there is a demand then by all means build a 2,000 foot hypertall. Also yeah I hope something like that happens. Some sort of signature building for the Hudson Yards.

eennyc Nov 9, 2011 5:26 PM

Absolutly !!!!!!! I agree with you !!!!!!

eennyc Nov 9, 2011 5:31 PM

:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 5447091)
ESB will always be the king skyscraper and the Chrysler the most beautiful (in my opinion).

:)Yes !!!! is truth !!!

Rey88 Nov 9, 2011 6:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5473519)
Yeah I am, and if the design is right, and if there is a demand then by all means build a 2,000 foot hypertall. Also yeah I hope something like that happens. Some sort of signature building for the Hudson Yards.

Yes, in the future, a 2,000 foot tower can be build on Hudson Yards. A tower like this...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6526175...1308/lightbox/ ;)

gams Nov 11, 2011 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5465455)
New renders for the Hudson Yards!

Shorter tower ~ 996ft, construction to begin 3rd quarter 2012
Taller tower: ~ 1278ft, construction to begin 4th quarter 2012

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139343751/original.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/...d4eb3252_b.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139327901/original.jpg

hunser, do you have night renderings on the towers, am excited with the light designs. thank you

hunser Nov 11, 2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rey88 (Post 5474178)
Yes, in the future, a 2,000 foot tower can be build on Hudson Yards. A tower like this...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/6526175...1308/lightbox/ ;)

nice, the tower would need a redesign (especially the top), but I like the general concept. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gams (Post 5476460)
hunser, do you have night renderings on the towers, am excited with the light designs. thank you

here's one from the Hudson Yards thread:

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139385782/original.jpg

hunser Nov 11, 2011 6:16 PM

1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction
2. 432 Park Avenue, 1420ft (432,8m), Site Preparation (height not final; min: 1380ft / max: 1700ft)
3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction
4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1292ft (393,8m), Approved
5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire]
6. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
7. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
8. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed
9. 225 West 57th Street, 1200ft+ (365,8m+), Proposed
10. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction
11. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire]
12. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved
13. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved
14. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
15. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
16. Hudson Yards South Tower, 1017ft (310m), Site Preparation
17. One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction



900 footers:

1. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Under Construction
2. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed
3. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire]
4. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed
5. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved
6. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed
7. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed
8. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold)



800 footers:


1. Beekman Tower, 891ft (271,6m), Completed
2. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262,4m), Completed
3. Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved
4. GE Building, 850ft (259,1m), Completed
5. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
6. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248,1m), Completed
7. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (247,8m), Completed
8. Met Life Building, 808ft (246,3m), Completed
9. Hudson Yard Residential Tower, 800ft+ (243,8m+)


700 footers:

1. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m), Completed
2. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m), Completed
3. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m), Completed
4. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m), Completed
5. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m), Under Construction
6. AXA Center, 752ft (229m), Completed
7. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m), Completed
8. 1251 Avenue of the Americas , 750ft (229m), Completed
9. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
10. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
11. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m), Completed
12. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m), Completed
13. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m), Completed
14. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m), Completed
15. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m), Completed
16. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m), Completed
17. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m), Completed
18. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m), Completed
19. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m), Completed
20. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m), Completed
21. 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction
22. 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
23. 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
24. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved
25. JPMorganChase Tower, 707ft (216m), Completed
26. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m), Completed
27. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m), Completed
28. 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved


600 footers:

1. 500 Fifth Avenue, 697ft (212m), Completed
2. 107 West 57th Street, 697ft (212m), Proposed
3. Americas Tower, 692ft (211m), Completed
4. Solow Building, 689ft (210m), Completed
5. HSBC Bank Building, 688ft (210m), Completed
6. 55 Water Street, 687ft (209m), Completed
7. 277 Park Avenue, 687ft (209m), Completed
8. 1585 Broadway, 685ft (209m), Completed
9. Random House Tower, 684ft (208m), Completed
10. Four Seasons Hotel, 682ft (208m), Completed
11. McGraw-Hill Building, 674ft (205m), Completed
12. Lincoln Building, 673ft (205m), Completed
13. Citicorp Building, 673ft (205m), Completed
14. Barclay Tower, 673ft (205m), Completed
15. Paramount Plaza, 670ft (204m), Completed
16. 440 West 42nd Street, 669ft (204m), Completed
17. Trump Tower, 664ft (202m), Completed

In total: 56 buildings


500 footers:

120 buildings+

--> New York has about 240 buildings over 500ft. This city rulez.:cool:

manchester united Nov 12, 2011 2:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5476977)
1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction
2. 432 Park Avenue, 1350ft (411,5m), Site Preparation
3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction
4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1278ft (389,5m), Approved
5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire]
6. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
7. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
8. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed
9. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction
10. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire]
11. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved
12. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved
13. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
14. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
15. One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction
16. Hudson Railyard Development, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
17. 225 West 57th Street, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed


900 footers:

1. Hudson Yards South Tower, 996ft (303,6m), Approved
2. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Under Construction
3. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed
4. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire]
5. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed
6. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved
7. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed
8. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed
9. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold)


800 footers:


1. Beekman Tower, 891ft (271,6m), Completed
2. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262,4m), Completed
3. Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved
4. GE Building, 850ft (259,1m), Completed
5. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
6. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248,1m), Completed
7. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (247,8m), Completed
8. Met Life Building, 808ft (246,3m), Completed


700 footers:

1. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m), Completed
2. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m), Completed
3. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m), Completed
4. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m), Completed
5. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m), Under Construction
6. AXA Center, 752ft (229m), Completed
7. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m), Completed
8. 1251 Avenue of the Americas , 750ft (229m), Completed
9. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
10. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
11. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m), Completed
12. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m), Completed
13. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m), Completed
14. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m), Completed
15. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m), Completed
16. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m), Completed
17. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m), Completed
18. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m), Completed
19. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m), Completed
20. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m), Completed
21. 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction
22. 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
23. 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
24. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved
25. JPMorganChase Tower, 707ft (216m), Completed
26. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m), Completed
27. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m), Completed
28. 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved


600 footers: 56 buildings+
500 footers: 120 buildings+

--> New York has about 240 buildings over 500ft. This city rulez.:cool:

Absolutely fantastic !!!!!

MolsonExport Nov 12, 2011 4:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5476977)
1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction
2. 432 Park Avenue, 1350ft (411,5m), Site Preparation
3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction
4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1278ft (389,5m), Approved
5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire]
6. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
7. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
8. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed
9. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction
10. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire]
11. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved
12. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved
13. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
14. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
15. One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction
16. Hudson Railyard Development, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
17. 225 West 57th Street, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed


900 footers:

1. Hudson Yards South Tower, 996ft (303,6m), Approved
2. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Under Construction
3. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed
4. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire]
5. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed
6. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved
7. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed
8. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed
9. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold)


800 footers:


1. Beekman Tower, 891ft (271,6m), Completed
2. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262,4m), Completed
3. Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved
4. GE Building, 850ft (259,1m), Completed
5. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
6. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248,1m), Completed
7. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (247,8m), Completed
8. Met Life Building, 808ft (246,3m), Completed


700 footers:

1. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m), Completed
2. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m), Completed
3. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m), Completed
4. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m), Completed
5. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m), Under Construction
6. AXA Center, 752ft (229m), Completed
7. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m), Completed
8. 1251 Avenue of the Americas , 750ft (229m), Completed
9. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
10. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
11. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m), Completed
12. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m), Completed
13. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m), Completed
14. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m), Completed
15. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m), Completed
16. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m), Completed
17. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m), Completed
18. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m), Completed
19. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m), Completed
20. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m), Completed
21. 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction
22. 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
23. 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
24. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved
25. JPMorganChase Tower, 707ft (216m), Completed
26. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m), Completed
27. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m), Completed
28. 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved


600 footers: 56 buildings+
500 footers: 120 buildings+

--> New York has about 240 buildings over 500ft. This city rulez.:cool:


Outstanding summary. Right on NYC

hunser Nov 12, 2011 7:43 PM

List edited. I added a couple of 600 footers (till 657ft = 200m).

monctezuma Nov 13, 2011 9:51 PM

Very interesting thread ! Keep up your excellent work.

hunser Dec 8, 2011 8:59 PM

Model for 432 Park Ave:

http://elitedaily.com/elite/

http://cdn.elitedaily.com/elite/wp-c...lite_daily.jpg

scalziand Dec 8, 2011 10:08 PM

more accurate citation-http://elitedaily.com/elite/2011/yorks-super-building/

Zapatan Dec 14, 2011 7:06 AM

I love 432 park ave.!

manchester united Jan 15, 2012 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5476977)
1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction
2. 432 Park Avenue, 1350ft (411,5m), Site Preparation
3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction
4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1278ft (389,5m), Approved
5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire]
6. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
7. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
8. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed
9. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction
10. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire]
11. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved
12. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved
13. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
14. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
15. One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction
16. Hudson Railyard Development, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
17. 225 West 57th Street, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed


900 footers:

1. Hudson Yards South Tower, 996ft (303,6m), Approved
2. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Under Construction
3. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed
4. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire]
5. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed
6. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved
7. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed
8. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed
9. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold)



800 footers:


1. Beekman Tower, 891ft (271,6m), Completed
2. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262,4m), Completed
3. Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved
4. GE Building, 850ft (259,1m), Completed
5. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
6. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248,1m), Completed
7. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (247,8m), Completed
8. Met Life Building, 808ft (246,3m), Completed


700 footers:

1. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m), Completed
2. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m), Completed
3. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m), Completed
4. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m), Completed
5. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m), Under Construction
6. AXA Center, 752ft (229m), Completed
7. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m), Completed
8. 1251 Avenue of the Americas , 750ft (229m), Completed
9. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
10. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
11. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m), Completed
12. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m), Completed
13. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m), Completed
14. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m), Completed
15. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m), Completed
16. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m), Completed
17. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m), Completed
18. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m), Completed
19. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m), Completed
20. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m), Completed
21. 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction
22. 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
23. 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
24. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved
25. JPMorganChase Tower, 707ft (216m), Completed
26. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m), Completed
27. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m), Completed
28. 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved


600 footers:

1. 500 Fifth Avenue, 697ft (212m), Completed
2. Americas Tower, 692ft (211m), Completed
3. Solow Building, 689ft (210m), Completed
4. HSBC Bank Building, 688ft (210m), Completed
5. 55 Water Street, 687ft (209m), Completed
6. 277 Park Avenue, 687ft (209m), Completed
7. 1585 Broadway, 685ft (209m), Completed
8. Random House Tower, 684ft (208m), Completed
9. Four Seasons Hotel, 682ft (208m), Completed
10. McGraw-Hill Building, 674ft (205m), Completed
11. Lincoln Building, 673ft (205m), Completed
12. Citicorp Building, 673ft (205m), Completed
13. Barclay Tower, 673ft (205m), Completed
14. Paramount Plaza, 670ft (204m), Completed
15. 440 West 42nd Street, 669ft (204m), Completed
16. Trump Tower, 664ft (202m), Completed

In total: 56 buildings


500 footers:

120 buildings+

--> New York has about 240 buildings over 500ft. This city rulez.:cool:

Are there new skyscrapers to add to this fantastic list ?

hunser Jan 15, 2012 8:09 PM

^^ Not much. A couple of 500 and 600 footers are proposed and also some are U/C.

I'll make a small update later next week. :)

lulujune Jan 19, 2012 2:45 AM

magic cities and magic manhaton

DrNest Jan 24, 2012 12:17 AM

A great thread. Thanks for the useful info!

marshall Feb 14, 2012 11:36 PM

I too hope this building gets built, and the full height is attained. I am happy that 1WTC will soon be finished, but New York needs a 2,000 foot skyscraper. The Chinese and Arabs are building huge skyscrapers, the Burj Dubai is over 2,000 feet, hello!! While in the 1970s any building over 1,000 feet was considered great, and still is to a point, that is no longer the measuring stick. It is now 2,000 feet and beyond. New York needs to get back into the skyscraper game wholeheartedly. We need to stop spitting out designs and then cringing at the last minute and winding their heights back down...This only makes for more generic, boring-looking bland buildings. Any city can have 500-1,000 foot buildings, but this is New York for pete's sake. I don't mean have them all over the city, just having one great 2,000 footer would put New York back on the cutting edge and map of skyscraper buildings globally..I am not a huge fan of the Internationalist boxy styling, but I am sure there are creative people out there who could design a building with elements of the past and present, while making it safe and environmentally efficient too. All this being said, with things the way they are, and nothing ever seeming to get done in the way of big projects, I would guess that 1WTC (once completed) will likely be the tallest building in New York for many many years to come..

Zapatan Feb 14, 2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 5590745)
I too hope this building gets built, and the full height is attained. I am happy that 1WTC will soon be finished, but New York needs a 2,000 foot skyscraper. The Chinese and Arabs are building huge skyscrapers, the Burj Dubai is over 2,000 feet, hello!! While in the 1970s any building over 1,000 feet was considered great, and still is to a point, that is no longer the measuring stick. It is now 2,000 feet and beyond. New York needs to get back into the skyscraper game wholeheartedly. We need to stop spitting out designs and then cringing at the last minute and winding their heights back down...This only makes for more generic, boring-looking bland buildings. Any city can have 500-1,000 foot buildings, but this is New York for pete's sake. I don't mean have them all over the city, just having one great 2,000 footer would put New York back on the cutting edge and map of skyscraper buildings globally..I am not a huge fan of the Internationalist boxy styling, but I am sure there are creative people out there who could design a building with elements of the past and present, while making it safe and environmentally efficient too. All this being said, with things the way they are, and nothing ever seeming to get done in the way of big projects, I would guess that 1WTC (once completed) will likely be the tallest building in New York for many many years to come..


Give it time, and a better economy and I wouldn't be surprised if proposals higher than the WTC, 432 and Sears emerge.

Dubai nearly collapsed because of the building bubble, there were a few 1600 footers cancelled because of it there.

jd3189 Feb 15, 2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 5590745)
I too hope this building gets built, and the full height is attained. I am happy that 1WTC will soon be finished, but New York needs a 2,000 foot skyscraper. The Chinese and Arabs are building huge skyscrapers, the Burj Dubai is over 2,000 feet, hello!! While in the 1970s any building over 1,000 feet was considered great, and still is to a point, that is no longer the measuring stick. It is now 2,000 feet and beyond. New York needs to get back into the skyscraper game wholeheartedly. We need to stop spitting out designs and then cringing at the last minute and winding their heights back down...This only makes for more generic, boring-looking bland buildings. Any city can have 500-1,000 foot buildings, but this is New York for pete's sake. I don't mean have them all over the city, just having one great 2,000 footer would put New York back on the cutting edge and map of skyscraper buildings globally..I am not a huge fan of the Internationalist boxy styling, but I am sure there are creative people out there who could design a building with elements of the past and present, while making it safe and environmentally efficient too. All this being said, with things the way they are, and nothing ever seeming to get done in the way of big projects, I would guess that 1WTC (once completed) will likely be the tallest building in New York for many many years to come..

We could just finish the Metlife North Building. Would be be the tallest art deco skyscraper in the world, succeeding the ESB like it was suppose to. The existing structure would need to be strengthen in order to bring the roof height from the 1,400s to 1,500 or 1,600s in feet and up to 2,000 feet via a spire. New York would finally have the tallest roof height in the U.S. if that were to happen and the title would go to a greatly designed building as 432 Park is not exactly what you would called good architecture.

Roadcruiser1 Feb 15, 2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 5590796)
We could just finish the Metlife North Building. Would be be the tallest art deco skyscraper in the world, succeeding the ESB like it was suppose to. The existing structure would need to be strengthen in order to bring the roof height from the 1,400s to 1,500 or 1,600s in feet and up to 2,000 feet via a spire. New York would finally have the tallest roof height in the U.S. if that were to happen and the title would go to a greatly designed building as 432 Park is not exactly what you would called good architecture.

It was built to have 110 floors not 130. At best it can reach 1,700 feet, and 2,000 feet is impossible. Again we don't want 2,000 feet skyscrapers. It is only going to be empty like the skyscrapers in China and Dubai. We don't want empty skyscrapers. We want ours to be full. So no this won't happen. Besides America doesn't care about skyscrapers anymore. Most Americans want more mass transit. We don't want a good view we want more ways to move around. If you guys like it so much you can move to China, you can move to Dubai. Just stop complaining.

aquablue Feb 15, 2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5590815)
It was built to have 110 floors not 130. At best it can reach 1,700 feet, and 2,000 feet is impossible. Again we don't want 2,000 feet skyscrapers. It is only going to be empty like the skyscrapers in China and Dubai. We don't want empty skyscrapers. We want ours to be full. So no this won't happen. Besides America doesn't care about skyscrapers anymore. Most Americans want more mass transit. We don't want a good view we want more ways to move around. If you guys like it so much you can move to China, you can move to Dubai. Just stop complaining.

China and Dubai can have both (good transit and fantastic scrapers), we could too. They are not mutually exclusive even here. Transit is usually government funded and real estate is private. If the need arises for taller towers in Manhattan in the future, I'm sure wanting will have nothing to do with it. If the economy starts growing and manhattan is still a hot location for business in the future, they will have no choice but to maximize the small land area and go up.

Most Americans don't want mass transit. That is why they elected a congress full of transit hating fools. The new transportation bill shows you what most americans think of transit, they prefer cars and oil rigs. Also is Mitt is elected, say goodbye to HSR and transit funding. Say hello to off-shore drilling and highway expansion.

jd3189 Feb 15, 2012 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5590815)
It was built to have 110 floors not 130. At best it can reach 1,700 feet, and 2,000 feet is impossible. Again we don't want 2,000 feet skyscrapers. It is only going to be empty like the skyscrapers in China and Dubai. We don't want empty skyscrapers. We want ours to be full. So no this won't happen. Besides America doesn't care about skyscrapers anymore. Most Americans want more mass transit. We don't want a good view we want more ways to move around. If you guys like it so much you can move to China, you can move to Dubai. Just stop complaining.

I didn't say that the Metlife North should be 2,000 feet by rooftop. Something good above the height of the Sears Tower is what would suffice. A few years ago, this country was thinking on building a 2,000-foot building,but the economy rendered that useless. I don't want any western skyline to be filled with tall empty skyscrapers, but I don't want our cities to stop growing in height. London, a city long against the development of anything tall, now has a supertall. And if it makes the situation here seem better, skyscrapers are only built if there's a demand. And there will always be a demand in NYC.

aquablue Feb 15, 2012 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 5590834)
I didn't say that the Metlife North should be 2,000 feet by rooftop. Something good above the height of the Sears Tower is what would suffice. A few years ago, this country was thinking on building a 2,000-foot building,but the economy rendered that useless. I don't want any western skyline to be filled with tall empty skyscrapers, but I don't want our cities to stop growing in height. London, a city long against the development of anything tall, now has a supertall. And if it makes the situation here seem better, skyscrapers are only built if there's a demand. And there will always be a demand in NYC.

I'd prefer though if most US cities focused on becoming cities and not parking lots before they started thinking about taller towers. I.e, what use is tall towers is nobody actually wants to use the city center or live there?

A 2000ft tower is a vanity project, but in China w/ their population and congested cities, it will serve them well in the future. NYC could also fall into that category with the tiny landmass called manhattan. THen again, the economy could collapse again.

I also see NIMBY issues for a 2000 foot tower. I'd be happy with a 500m to roof in NYC.

marshall Feb 15, 2012 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5590815)
It was built to have 110 floors not 130. At best it can reach 1,700 feet, and 2,000 feet is impossible. Again we don't want 2,000 feet skyscrapers. It is only going to be empty like the skyscrapers in China and Dubai. We don't want empty skyscrapers. We want ours to be full. So no this won't happen. Besides America doesn't care about skyscrapers anymore. Most Americans want more mass transit. We don't want a good view we want more ways to move around. If you guys like it so much you can move to China, you can move to Dubai. Just stop complaining.


Yeah I wouldnt want empty skyscrapers either...But I think Americans should care about infrastructure and competing globally with the Chinese and Arabs again...And with transit and skyscrapers both. LOL and Id def never go live in China no thanks!

aquablue Feb 15, 2012 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 5590849)
Yeah I wouldnt want empty skyscrapers either...But I think Americans should care about infrastructure and competing globally with the Chinese and Arabs again...And with transit and skyscrapers both. LOL and Id def never go live in China no thanks!

Can't compete with the Arabs.... they had a blank slate and OIL funds and they are princedoms with no democracy. Dubai had Abu Dhabi helping it out. Arab states are unique cases, don't even think Americans can start building towns like they did. You don't compete. The Germans don't need to compete do they? No.

Crawford Feb 15, 2012 1:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5590841)
A 2000ft tower is a vanity project, but in China w/ their population and congested cities, it will serve them well in the future.

Chinese skyscraper construction has little to do with population or congestion.

Most Chinese skyscrapers aren't built in a traditional urban format, anyways. They're usually in Pudong-style planned zones, with suburban-style formats. A place like Paris has far higher density, without highrises.

And Chinese population is projected to decline significantly over the long-term, so I don't think it's accurate to say that skyscraper construction serves future growth needs.

1Boston Feb 15, 2012 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 5590849)
Yeah I wouldnt want empty skyscrapers either...But I think Americans should care about infrastructure and competing globally with the Chinese and Arabs again...And with transit and skyscrapers both. LOL and Id def never go live in China no thanks!

But that's what sets America apart. We can build relatively tall towers but only out of demand. Probably all of the towers going up in the eastern world are being built so they can say they have the tallest, it's where America was in the 20s. 432 park is going up in NY because there is need of new retail, not say NY has a 1,420 foot roof that looks good but no one actually lives there. One of the most interesting things about infrastructure, specifically towers,IMO is what goes on on the inside.

aquablue Feb 15, 2012 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 5590879)
Chinese skyscraper construction has little to do with population or congestion.

Most Chinese skyscrapers aren't built in a traditional urban format, anyways. They're usually in Pudong-style planned zones, with suburban-style formats. A place like Paris has far higher density, without highrises.

And Chinese population is projected to decline significantly over the long-term, so I don't think it's accurate to say that skyscraper construction serves future growth needs.

They do, because population overall is the factor that is fueling their economic growth and the reason why there is so much investment in China - labor, market size, etc. So, indirectly, these speculative towers are the result of population. Chinese cities are still growing also Ever hear of rural-urban migration?

Chinese are planning taller towers for image and practical means. They know that their cities are crammed and there is little room to sprawl, so they are planning for the future by building tall towers that satisfy their need for prestige and for reducing the need to build office towers all over the place. They also like low density CBD's due to cultural factors.

Zapatan Feb 15, 2012 2:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 5590841)

I also see NIMBY issues for a 2000 foot tower. I'd be happy with a 500m to roof in NYC.

NIMBY's don't know the difference between a 2000 footer and the 1420 footer that's going up now.

So yes it's possible, there's also a 1776 foot tower being built. NIMBYs don't know it's 1776 to the spire, they just see the figure.

Basically if you build as of right those morons can't do shitaki mushrooms. Plus as more and more tall buildings are built, the less power they will have. If it can make money it will get built regardless of what a bunch of yammering idiots think.


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