The Sky [845 Carling Ave] | 73/155/191m | 18/45/55f | Approved
dow honda preliminary proposal - 2x 48 fl...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BGUQ8FeCUAAhgCE.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8099/8...02facda1_b.jpg https://twitter.com/davidreevely/sta...77973237452801 Graziani and Corazza Architects http://www.gc-architects.com/ |
I was joking when I posted this! :haha:
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I haven't kept too close track of what's going on, but it seems like there might be a bit of a tower cluster forming in that area.
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Is this real or am I dreaming? Not one, but two 48 story buildings! I'm skeptical that these will get approved, but I sincerely hope it happens. This will be a really great place to live within the next few years.
Anymore details on this project? Are both towers located on the same plot or across the street from each other? How is Richcraft for buildings? My mother and I were talking about the projects, and while we agree we don't like Claridge, she said she doesn't like Richcraft (I at least like La Galleria 1/2's exterior). In any case, I'm happy with the height. :) |
Some time last year I said to myself I'd never see a proposal over 40 floors in Ottawa in my life time. Now we have three. This is a big milestone.
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I'm speechless, could this really happen? Even minus a few stories, this would be monumental for Ottawa.
Groans of horror? Are these towers going to be inhabited by boulder-throwing cyclopses and flaming demons or something? |
Really hope this happens!
Seems almost too good to be true for this city ugh |
Campeau did try to propose a 42 storey tower downtown in late 80s, but that went nowhere. However this is far away from the Parliamentary precinct and its height restrictions.
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updated Carling/Preston proposed/approved/construction projects (I'll colour code them next time)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8...c6e63011_b.jpg edit: added Norman St and Rochestor.. thanks Brent! |
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Don't forget the condos on Norman and Rochester (assuming they get the go ahead) to add to that density. I'm hopeful that the CIBC building will be replaced with a taller condo, along with everything from Preston to Rochester along Adelaide. |
This is very exciting. I sincerely hope that this doesn't end up with 4 tall towers (by Ottawa standards) all the same height. It looks great with the varied heights pictured.
Edit: Waterloo, I posted your rendering in the Canada section; I hope you don't mind. |
no problem O-Town... I updated the original render with the Norman and Rochester proposals as well.
Not the biggest fan of G+C but looking forward to some more detailed drawings/renders of this one! |
I am not opposed to tall buildings in this area but several things spring to mind.
1. Some of these buildings are on very small footings. I look at the footprint for the Claridge Icon and wonder how it will ever support 40+ stories. I believe this area used to be swamp, so I wonder how easy it will be to keep these buildings straight. 2. The infrastructure is not there. Roads are definitely not there so all these people better take transit. But this leads to other problems. Try catching a bus from Carling and Preston to go East. The 101 and 102 make all sorts of irritating twists and turns before they get on the transitway. The Carling intersection with Bronson is already a nightmare at rush hours. 3. Expansion of the O-train is still years away, and accomodating this kind of population probably requires a direct connection to downtown (no transfer at Bayview). 4. Blasting required to (eventually) twin the O-train track will wreak havoc on the foundations of these tall condominiums (which are already supported by very small footings). 5. A tall building at the Dow Honda site and/or the Civic Parking lot (champagne and Carling) will likely make it very difficult to make a future connection between the Bayview/Carling O-train and a Westbound Carling LRT (which would likely need to be a no-transfer connection). |
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Where there's a will, there's a way. Q#2: Not to mention the "get out and push" routine at Bronson and Carling in a snow storm. I would like to see the city address a solution to this asap as well. Q#3: This might be a 'chicken and egg' scenario. and unfortunately the 'build access and they will come' mentality doesn't usually pan out. (example: Mirabel airport) Usually the density comes first, with the right plan in place, and the access will follow after several years of headaches for the early adopters. Can you imagine the uproar if the city built a train to service, for example, Carp or Russell today in anticipation of future development? Q#4: I would be more concerned about the older buildings to be honest. The new earthquake and deflection requirements will more than cover the new buildings from the blasting (structurally). The noise and annoyance is another issue altogether though. Q#5: I have no expertise here - but certainly seems like a valid point. |
the expansion of the O-Train will be done this year. Construction will take place this summer. The new trains will be received this May. They are aiming for 2014 to get them running after testing, training, etc. In any case, these buildings are years away from being finished (once approved + construction).
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Is that plan for next decade, what's the plan? I guess the question then is, can the O-Train handle the new population with 8 minutes service?
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The question is more like, when the O-Train eventually needs to be double-tracked, do they have a plan for shutting down the line for a couple of years while they do the work? Seems to me that they are allowing development at a scale based on transit potential that isn't even all there yet. The O-Train went from pilot project to permanent with the minimal of investment — the city is flying on the seat of their pants on this one.
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