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Boatguy619 Nov 19, 2019 12:02 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f19fdc79_c.jpg2019-11-18_03-55-05 by kevinbeatty, on Flickr

Found the rendering on top after searching google (posted by the UT) The one below is from MPG website. The top rendering is more accurate to how the navy building turned out. Subtle differences between the two renderings.

Streamliner Nov 19, 2019 11:13 PM

I agree the final product is a bit underwhelming. It looks like it would fit right in at Irvine or UTC. That said, it will be obscured by the building in front of it, and it's not the architectural focus of the project. I do wonder if the other buildings will be less interesting versions of what we've seen.

Those newer renders are a little deceiving, what with the evening/nighttime lighting and all.

Either way, I'm glad to see this project finally happening. It will add variety to the skyline at least. Now let's get Seaport Village redeveloped!

CaliNative Nov 20, 2019 9:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 8753256)
I agree the final product is a bit underwhelming. It looks like it would fit right in at Irvine or UTC. That said, it will be obscured by the building in front of it, and it's not the architectural focus of the project. I do wonder if the other buildings will be less interesting versions of what we've seen.

Those newer renders are a little deceiving, what with the evening/nighttime lighting and all.

Either way, I'm glad to see this project finally happening. It will add variety to the skyline at least. Now let's get Seaport Village redeveloped!

I would like to have seen the taller building rise to the 500' height limit, with maybe 35 stories. I don't think it quite gets there. What will it be, maybe 450 feet, 28 stories?

JerellO Nov 21, 2019 3:57 AM

The design went from classic looking Art Deco and pink stone to modern glass and white panels

Will O' Wisp Nov 21, 2019 7:07 AM

I believe I've found more renderings of the design Boatguy posted.

https://i.imgur.com/X4HVz3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XsfIyz7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tMZIZZU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Dimm7b2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5zZqgKO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BhYI5jz.jpg

Source of all images here

JerellO Nov 21, 2019 9:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp (Post 8754737)

Oh wow, it’s actually not that bad looking.. you can still see the Art Deco inspiration in it. Still an exciting development :) let’s hope that the architectural lighting is that good

HurricaneHugo Nov 22, 2019 7:00 AM

Padres hope to redevelop Tailgate Park as city seeks a buyer

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-tailgate-park

Streamliner Nov 22, 2019 4:39 PM

Lots of downtown news this week, including the Tailgate Park article posted:

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ca-plaza-1.png

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...andiego-01.jpg

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...renderings.jpg

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...Ffvm-view2.jpg

Will O' Wisp Nov 23, 2019 6:59 PM

For a fun interlude, here's a very recent shot of downtown from the International Space Station.

https://i.imgur.com/krsNfvX.jpg

Source: Astronaut Christina H Kock and NASA

sandiego_urban Nov 23, 2019 9:32 PM

Sorry if the the updated renderings of Seaport Village have already been posted. I really like the hotel wrapping around the tower. If only it were taller......


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...00450bb5_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...550ea5d9_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5ca64a7a_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...44255ae3_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...031427d4_c.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7e666283_c.jpg

https://www.seaportsandiegoca.com/

staplesla Nov 24, 2019 5:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 8757172)
Sorry if the the updated renderings of Seaport Village have already been posted. I really like the hotel wrapping around the tower. If only it were taller......

The Seaport Village site states a groundbreaking of “as early as 2024”. A lot can change in 5 years. I wonder why the delay?

HurricaneHugo Nov 24, 2019 9:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp (Post 8757107)
For a fun interlude, here's a very recent shot of downtown from the International Space Station.

Source: Astronaut Christina H Kock and NASA

I can see my house. :D

...and the Nazi builiding

HurricaneHugo Dec 5, 2019 4:22 AM

Two art galleries in Barrio Logan have now shut down due to increased rent.

Do you guys know if there are limits to commercial rent increases in SD?

Will O' Wisp Dec 7, 2019 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 8767226)
Two art galleries in Barrio Logan have now shut down due to increased rent.

Do you guys know if there are limits to commercial rent increases in SD?

Nope, you can raise rent to whatever the market will bear. There's no such thing as commercial rent control anywhere in the US (although NYC has been considering the idea lately).

Northparkwizard Dec 7, 2019 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp (Post 8769517)
Nope, you can raise rent to whatever the market will bear. There's no such thing as commercial rent control anywhere in the US (although NYC has been considering the idea lately).

This is one of the dumbest arguments ever. Storefronts aren't shuttered because the market can't bear it, the shoe is on the other foot. This type of dumb-think is why we're in this.

Will O' Wisp Dec 8, 2019 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 8769855)
This is one of the dumbest arguments ever. Storefronts aren't shuttered because the market can't bear it, the shoe is on the other foot. This type of dumb-think is why we're in this.

Hold your horses there, Jethro. I never said I support high rents driving local businesses to close, or empty storefronts lining streets. I'm just stating the reality that in SD, today, a commercial property owner raise rents to whatever they damn well please (absent a lease agreement, of course). As it is in the rest of the USA.

I should note that SD has a relatively lower amount of speculation in the commercial property sector, and thus a fairly low commercial vacancy rate compared to many other metros. Even if you plan to sell, having tenants ready to go is generally an asset to the sale price. This is in contrast to markets like NYC and SF where having vacancy is prized because then you're set for that "next big thing" to come along, even if that means holding the space empty for years.

mello Dec 9, 2019 8:50 PM

Does anyone have any idea whats going on with the Pinnacle twin tower project at 11th and E? It has barely moved, if anyone has the time please try to call the developer and get to the bottom of this. That thing should be at least 14 to 18 floors up by now right??

HurricaneHugo Dec 11, 2019 9:26 AM

From Reddit user ejok69

Downtown from the County Admin building:

https://i.redd.it/ygd2a2i73v341.jpg

SDfan Dec 11, 2019 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 8771042)
Does anyone have any idea whats going on with the Pinnacle twin tower project at 11th and E? It has barely moved, if anyone has the time please try to call the developer and get to the bottom of this. That thing should be at least 14 to 18 floors up by now right??

It has been painfully slow at 11th & E. I will say I have seen them working on the site consistently ever since their second Pinnacle on Park tower was completed. I don't know if it's just a dearth of construction workers, them wanting to get the red tower finished first, or some site issues at 11th, but they are moving things along now. It's just hard to believe they started that tower around the same time at the Block by Bosa, and that project is almost halfway done lol.

Pinnacle is one of the few developers building high-rises downtown (5 or 6 in the pipeline, now, correct?), but it appears they're going to take a one tower at a time approach :p

mello Dec 11, 2019 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 8772747)
It has been painfully slow at 11th & E.

I had a moment to call the local corporate office yesterday and they had no comment on the delays/slow pace of that project. I told them I was a real estate agent and everyone in the industry is wondering whats going on with the project and the lady said we can't comment on it. So hopefully they get their act together and progress speeds up.

Still waiting on ground breakings for 1st and Beech, CA Theatre, Alexan Little Italy, and the Little Italy Parking garage highrise on Kettner.... Lets get these going guys. :cheers:


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